Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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Aaron Boone

There's a hard-line Brexiteers group that will still vote down May's deal even if backstop is removed. There's a bigger group that will go with the deal if the DUP are happy. And that should be enough to get it through.  But backstop wouldn't be in that deal. Not sure what happens then.

Rossfan

Quote from: BennyCake on January 23, 2019, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 23, 2019, 11:22:08 AM
Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

Their backs must be sore. They've been bending over for decades to either the EU or the Brits. And that lot that's there at the moment especially, a shower of spineless b**tards.
Take your tablets and go back to your cave.
The world of International relations is not one of your strong points.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM


omaghjoe

Quote from: Aaron Boone on January 23, 2019, 07:09:58 PM
There's a hard-line Brexiteers group that will still vote down May's deal even if backstop is removed. There's a bigger group that will go with the deal if the DUP are happy. And that should be enough to get it through.  But backstop wouldn't be in that deal. Not sure what happens then.

Yes but there were 9 remainers that voted against it, they're unlikely to come back on board and I would say there will take a few with them if the deal moves further towards "hard". Throw in the no deal Brexiteers of which there are 17 and you will have more than cancelled out the DUP and any better deal. Best case scenario with the whip exercised very sternly would probably leave them sitting around the 300 mark,...... which is just not enough.

armaghniac

Quote from: BennyCake on January 23, 2019, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 23, 2019, 11:22:08 AM
Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

Their backs must be sore. They've been bending over for decades to either the EU or the Brits. And that lot that's there at the moment especially, a shower of spineless b**tards.

There is enough of this brainless sh|te in the Daily Telegraph, without seeing it on Gaaboard.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

omaghjoe

Quote from: armaghniac on January 23, 2019, 09:30:13 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 23, 2019, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 23, 2019, 11:22:08 AM
Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

Their backs must be sore. They've been bending over for decades to either the EU or the Brits. And that lot that's there at the moment especially, a shower of spineless b**tards.

There is enough of this brainless sh|te in the Daily Telegraph, without seeing it on Gaaboard.

Ehhh? Have long your been on here?

BennyCake

Quote from: Rossfan on January 23, 2019, 07:26:55 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 23, 2019, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 23, 2019, 11:22:08 AM
Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

Their backs must be sore. They've been bending over for decades to either the EU or the Brits. And that lot that's there at the moment especially, a shower of spineless b**tards.
Take your tablets and go back to your cave.
The world of International relations is not one of your strong points.

International relations eh? Backing the brits over this supposed Russia poisoning? Enda arm in arm with warmongers in Paris? Bend over to the IMF, and sell off your natural resources. Cowardly f**kers.

bennydorano

UK media getting excited about the Brexiteers coming round to May's plan sans Backstop, struggling to see how this changes anything on the EU negotiating side?  ??? Is there a whiff of ROI being prepared to be threw under the bus?

From the Bunker

Quote from: bennydorano on January 23, 2019, 10:27:45 PM
UK media getting excited about the Brexiteers coming round to May's plan sans Backstop, struggling to see how this changes anything on the EU negotiating side?  ??? Is there a whiff of ROI being prepared to be threw under the bus?

Thought that this morning. There has been a few rummagings from Europe that our Government seen uninformed about.

blast05

Quote from: Rossfan on January 23, 2019, 07:26:55 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 23, 2019, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 23, 2019, 11:22:08 AM
Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

Their backs must be sore. They've been bending over for decades to either the EU or the Brits. And that lot that's there at the moment especially, a shower of spineless b**tards.
Take your tablets and go back to your cave.
The world of International relations is not one of your strong points.

Late to this thread....
So even if EU & Brits wanted a hard border and Irish government caved in, where, in economies on both sides of the border with near full employment, would you get the estimated 5,000 people who would be needed to man all border posts while knowing that the majority on both sides of the border don't want it and also knowing that there would be a lunatic fringe who would would do anything from take pot shots to bomb the border crossings ??

omaghjoe

They and the Brexiteers can get excited as they want they don't have a majority for it.
Its floggin a dead horse at this point, there was 9 remainer rebels last time around, even if every Brexiteer and the DUP had voted for it they would still have lost by 4 by my calculation. And that was for something that the EU havent even agreed to.

The only think that this exercise is doing is wasting time...... to the 29th of March and Jacob Rees Moog and co are well aware of that.

May is boxed in a corner, my guess is she is trying to demonstrate that a harder Brexit just does not have support as it could well split her party, before exploring the softer option. 

Main Street

Quote from: omaghjoe on January 23, 2019, 09:56:35 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 23, 2019, 09:30:13 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 23, 2019, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 23, 2019, 11:22:08 AM
Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

Their backs must be sore. They've been bending over for decades to either the EU or the Brits. And that lot that's there at the moment especially, a shower of spineless b**tards.

There is enough of this brainless sh|te in the Daily Telegraph, without seeing it on Gaaboard.

Ehhh? Have long your been on here?
Hard to credit he or she hasn't visited a Tyrone thread or the US politics thread

BennyCake

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on January 23, 2019, 11:01:48 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 23, 2019, 10:09:51 PMCowardly f**kers.

From someone posting under a pseudonym on an Internet message board.

Aye, and I noticed you didn't address my other points. Gobshite  ::)

armaghniac

Quote from: omaghjoe on January 23, 2019, 09:56:35 PM
Ehhh? Have long your been on here?

I joined in 2002 when football started, of course. That's 1 BS on the Tyrone calendar.

Quote from: BennyCake on January 23, 2019, 11:58:41 PM

Aye, and I noticed you didn't address my other points. Gobshite  ::)

Probably when you make an actual point, he will.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM