Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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Denn Forever

Just had a look back on this thread. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA

Keep watching for Stephen Fry

I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

Insane Bolt

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48126974

Oh limp dick .....why didn't you tell Teresa what you told the Russians.....shut up and go away😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

red hander

Quote from: Insane Bolt on May 01, 2019, 06:57:36 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48126974

Oh limp dick .....why didn't you tell Teresa what you told the Russians.....shut up and go away😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Slap it up the odious wee cnut, who was totally out of his depth. Another who was happy to peddle the myth about a ''witch-hunt' against 'our brave boys'. GIFUY you useless piece of shit  ;D

Insane Bolt

https://www.thejournal.ie/boris-johnson-conservative-leader-poll-4640940-May2019/

Looks like Boris is going to lead us to the promised land😩......can't wait for the MBGA blue baseball caps.
A pumpkin head and a buffoon leading the western world......what could possibly go wrong?

bennydorano

A prediction - a no deal Brexit is on 100% on the cards now imo. Teresa May tied herself to a binding Parliamentary vote over any Brexit deal, the next PM is presumably not bound to the same once her deal is defeated for the 4th & final time. Boris will leave without asking Parliament.

armaghniac

Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2019, 04:30:16 PM
A prediction - a no deal Brexit is on 100% on the cards now imo. Teresa May tied herself to a binding Parliamentary vote over any Brexit deal, the next PM is presumably not bound to the same once her deal is defeated for the 4th & final time. Boris will leave without asking Parliament.

If some more conservatives defect, he would not be elected PM. And if the DUP had any sense, which is doubtful, they wouldn't vote for him as he could precipitate both a Scottish referendum and a border poll.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

balladmaker

Would a Prime Minister Johnson lead us another step closer to a border poll, and a second IndyRef in Scotland? .... if so, I would welcome a PM Johnson.

bennydorano

Quote from: armaghniac on May 18, 2019, 05:57:05 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2019, 04:30:16 PM
A prediction - a no deal Brexit is on 100% on the cards now imo. Teresa May tied herself to a binding Parliamentary vote over any Brexit deal, the next PM is presumably not bound to the same once her deal is defeated for the 4th & final time. Boris will leave without asking Parliament.

If some more conservatives defect, he would not be elected PM. And if the DUP had any sense, which is doubtful, they wouldn't vote for him as he could precipitate both a Scottish referendum and a border poll.
Raab (& Leadsom) would likely do exactly the same as Boris in my scenario. Need those 3 beaten in any leadership contest to avoid no deal. The other realistic contenders have a bit more sense even if they're all trying to increase their Brexiteer credentials to get the job.

armaghniac

Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2019, 06:41:32 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 18, 2019, 05:57:05 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2019, 04:30:16 PM
A prediction - a no deal Brexit is on 100% on the cards now imo. Teresa May tied herself to a binding Parliamentary vote over any Brexit deal, the next PM is presumably not bound to the same once her deal is defeated for the 4th & final time. Boris will leave without asking Parliament.

If some more conservatives defect, he would not be elected PM. And if the DUP had any sense, which is doubtful, they wouldn't vote for him as he could precipitate both a Scottish referendum and a border poll.
Raab (& Leadsom) would likely do exactly the same as Boris in my scenario. Need those 3 beaten in any leadership contest to avoid no deal. The other realistic contenders have a bit more sense even if they're all trying to increase their Brexiteer credentials to get the job.

My point was that they can win the leadership, but they have to keep all the Conservatives together in order to be voted PM.

Conservative   313
Labour   246
Scottish National Party   35
Change UK - The Independent Group   11
Liberal Democrat   11
Democratic Unionist Party   10
Independent   10
Sinn Féin   7
Plaid Cymru   4
Green Party   1
Speaker   1
Vacant   1
Total number of seats    650

You need 321 votes, since the Shinners are not there. There are only 313 Conservatives. You need all Conservatives and the DUP on board, if 3 more of them bailed out you would be in difficulty.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

bennydorano

Eh? Nobody is voted PM. He (or someone) will be elected the new Conservative Party Leader and therefore automatically become PM in the current situation. Parliamentary arithmetic could then certainly bring him down. There will be a new PM unless by some miracle May's deal passes and the DUP then bring it down.

armaghniac

Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2019, 09:24:14 PM
Eh? Nobody is voted PM. He (or someone) will be elected the new Conservative Party Leader and therefore automatically become PM in the current situation. Parliamentary arithmetic could then certainly bring him down. There will be a new PM unless by some miracle May's deal passes and the DUP then bring it down.

There would be a bit of a constitutional problem if the Queen is required to appoint a PM when he obviously does not have a majority in the house.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

bennydorano

Quote from: armaghniac on May 18, 2019, 10:38:19 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2019, 09:24:14 PM
Eh? Nobody is voted PM. He (or someone) will be elected the new Conservative Party Leader and therefore automatically become PM in the current situation. Parliamentary arithmetic could then certainly bring him down. There will be a new PM unless by some miracle May's deal passes and the DUP then bring it down.

There would be a bit of a constitutional problem if the Queen is required to appoint a PM when he obviously does not have a majority in the house.
No, that's not the way it works at all, she has to give the leader of the largest  party the opportunity to form a Government (however it may be constructed) and that situation only arises after a General Election. As the current situation stands unless the Government is brought down by the DUP / Parliament a newly elected Tory leader will become the PM without going near the Queen, there might be a courtesy visit but it's not to ask for permission (or be invited to) 'form a Government ' as they do after a GE.

Orior

Eurovision Song Contest gave Brexit a bloody nose, lol.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Orior on May 19, 2019, 11:49:36 AM
Eurovision Song Contest gave Brexit a bloody nose, lol.

Been doing that since Buck Fizz
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

playwiththewind1st

Quote from: armaghniac on May 18, 2019, 10:38:19 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2019, 09:24:14 PM
Eh? Nobody is voted PM. He (or someone) will be elected the new Conservative Party Leader and therefore automatically become PM in the current situation. Parliamentary arithmetic could then certainly bring him down. There will be a new PM unless by some miracle May's deal passes and the DUP then bring it down.

There would be a bit of a constitutional problem if the Queen is required to appoint a PM when he obviously does not have a majority in the house.

If the ould Queen starts losing the plot & makes a wrong call on appointing a PM, it could provoke the type of "constitutional crisis" so beloved of the British.