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Title: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: yellowcard on September 13, 2017, 11:03:39 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gooch-deserves-reward-for-his-efforts-but-are-testimonials-a-step-too-far-for-amateur-players-36127070.html

Is this the new thing in the GAA. Testimonial dinners for ex players as a pay off for years of service. Dressed up as a charity event with full approval from Padraig Duffy.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Minder on September 13, 2017, 11:14:57 AM
Yeah and only the chosen few will have the profile to pull this off 

He basically said he is trying to cash in now as he will be yesterday's news very soon
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 13, 2017, 11:34:58 AM
Nobody is forced to go to it. If he can make a good few quid for services rendered then good luck to him.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: five points on September 13, 2017, 11:36:11 AM
The money isn't for him, but goes to charidee. 

A PR racket.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Hound on September 13, 2017, 04:55:14 PM
The money isn't for him, but goes to charidee. 

A PR racket.
All the money goes to him. Then he decides how much of it to give to charity.

What has been publicly confirmed is that the charity portion will be split 50/50, not all the money will go to charity, and that Gooch and Gooch alone will decide how much of the takings goes to charity.

Heard Dessie Farrell talk previously about when the GPA was doing a deal with Club Energise to benefit all intercounty players, that Lucozade tried to scupper it by offering individual contracts to big name players. Peter Canavan, Seamus Moynihan and DJ Carey among those who turned down big amounts of money from Lucozade, according to Dessie, but the Gooch cashed in.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Syferus on September 13, 2017, 05:11:08 PM
Far easier to stomach than the Dublin/Mayo 'breakfasts' that are being used to tout AI final tickets. If he can do it, fair play. Even with sponsorships it's still an amateur sport where people of this profile in any other sport would have made millions over their careers.

It would be a nice touch if in future a percentage of the money raised from these things went into a fund for retiring players so that more than the big names get something more than a kick up the arse on the way out the door. Would be more appropriate than a charity honestly.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: five points on September 13, 2017, 05:12:03 PM
The money isn't for him, but goes to charidee. 

A PR racket.
All the money goes to him. Then he decides how much of it to give to charity.


Thanks. I stand corrected, having swallowed whole the initial media spin.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Fat Angry Motorist on September 13, 2017, 05:27:12 PM
"That will always be the elephant in the room," he said. "Like, the aim of the night wasn't to raise funds for Colm Cooper albeit that people might have different views on that. We wanted to have a GAA celebration because we've seen all these sporting stars in Ireland have these nights."

Does Colm think we're feckin stupid?

"We're saying, 'Well our GAA people are very much to the forefront of every community so why shouldn't we be doing if for our own people?' - so that's where it's kind of breaking ground a little bit. And obviously the charities were very much to the fore of it as well.

Nearly forgot there Colm!


Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 13, 2017, 06:32:54 PM
What exactly is the problem here?
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Hound on September 14, 2017, 08:25:01 AM
What exactly is the problem here?
I don't think it's something that can be stopped or should be stopped.

The problem from a GAA perspective, is whether the money generated is new money given by corporates/individuals, or whether those individuals/corporates have a budget to give to GAA causes (e.g. sponsoring club events, etc) that now Cooper will gobble up for himself and so there'll be less money spent elsewhere.

The charity element is something that can or can't be taken with a pinch of salt, bearing in mind his previous mé feiner history.

Also interesting that he's having it in Dublin rather than Kerry.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: T Fearon on September 14, 2017, 10:17:48 AM
€500 for a ticket? Deep pockets required
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Beffs on September 14, 2017, 10:40:55 AM
€500 for a ticket? Deep pockets required

Don't think it's aimed at individuals. Just deep pocketed companies, who have no problem coughing up five grand for a table. It's easy enough to get accountants to write it all off as taxable expenditure, if they know what they are doing.

The likes of Kerry Group, Eir, Supervalu, Littlewoods, AIB, Independent Media, & loads of other companies who have close ties to the GAA, Cooper or to Kerry in particular, are well able to come up with the money. They'll give the tickets to their own pot bellied CEO's and MD's, who will revel in the chance to rub such close shoulders with a GAA legend, on such a night. (D'aul corporate box in Croker on All Ireland Final day, is so impersonal and well....corporate.  ::) )

They'll also trot out their armies of "brand ambassadors" on the night, so it will look like a bunch of GAA greats all out to honour one of their own, because they all admire him so dang much. It's all a bit of a racket !
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 14, 2017, 10:44:33 AM
€500 for a ticket? Deep pockets required

sure an oul months rent from yer property portfolio will take care of that. just don't do with cooper like ye did with Rodgers, slag him off and then change yer tune as soon as ye meet the fella
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: macdanger2 on September 14, 2017, 10:49:26 AM
€500 for a ticket? Deep pockets required

Don't think it's aimed at individuals. Just deep pocketed companies, who have no problem coughing up five grand for a table. It's easy enough to get accountants to write it all off as taxable expenditure, if they know what they are doing.

The likes of Kerry Group, Eir, Supervalu, Littlewoods, AIB, Independent Media, & loads of other companies who have close ties to the GAA, Cooper or to Kerry in particular, are well able to come up with the money. They'll give the tickets to their own pot bellied CEO's and MD's, who will revel in the chance to rub such close shoulders with a GAA legend, on such a night. (D'aul corporate box in Croker on All Ireland Final day, is so impersonal and well....corporate.  ::) )

They'll also trot out their armies of "brand ambassadors" on the night, so it will look like a bunch of GAA greats all out to honour one of their own, because they all admire him so dang much. It's all a bit of a racket !

Yeah, seems like a bit of a racket alright
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: vallankumous on September 14, 2017, 10:58:02 AM
It's best to have no expectations from a player once retired.
They're civilians again.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Rossfan on September 14, 2017, 11:05:44 AM
Pity they couldn't organise something to pay for or  provide accomodation for some if the families living in Hotel rooms.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: lurganblue on September 14, 2017, 12:00:06 PM
Fair play to him. Cash in if there are people stupid enough to pay for this shite.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: Syferus on September 14, 2017, 02:06:39 PM
Fair play to him. Cash in if there are people stupid enough to pay for this shite.

I hear that's Ulster GAA's approach to games too.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: lurganblue on September 14, 2017, 02:21:00 PM
Fair play to him. Cash in if there are people stupid enough to pay for this shite.

I hear that's Ulster GAA's approach to games too.

Def the same approach Armagh County board has to club championship games.
Title: Re: Gooch Cooper testimonial dinner
Post by: OgraAnDun on September 14, 2017, 07:07:22 PM
Fair play to him. Cash in if there are people stupid enough to pay for this shite.

I hear that's Ulster GAA's approach to games too.

They're just cashing in on the AI medals that have come to the province over the past 25 years or so.