MPs unite to fight law that will make abortions available in Northern Ireland

[Angelo]

At the end of the day you can break it down whatever way you want. But surely we have a right to protect those who cannot speak? When you break it down into arguments of weeks and development etc - I feel the point is being wasted completely. Children will not come into this world because of developments in our law. One life lost is surely too many? When I think of this debate, Avril Monaghan always enters my head. I wonder do the Monaghan family mourn two victims or four?

When I think of this debate, I think of young rape victims. I immediately thought of a story I read the other day about the 15 year old with learning difficulties in Armagh who was raped by two Romanian nationals. To my knowledge she didn't fall pregnant but the thought of someone in her position being forced to go through with a pregnancy is disgusting.

Is the thought of a woman deciding to terminate the life of a perfectly healthy child because she doesn't want to deal with the consequences of her actions not disgusting?

It's about accountability.

Both are disgusting imo. But don't tell me you'd force that young girl to carry on with that pregnancy?

You're talking about the exceptional circumstances.

Plenty of rape victims will give birth to a child by the product of rape and that child may be the pride and joy of their lives.

Other rape victims will terminate a pregnancy and it may haunt them for the rest of their life.

I don't think terminating a pregnancy is a solution to the trauma of rape.

. Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

But an unborn child will and they need to have their rights protected.

[tonto1888]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

[Angelo]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

[tonto1888]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Are you ever gonna be pregnant as a result of rape? Or any reason? No. Then it's relevant.

[trueblue1234]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Are you ever gonna be pregnant as a result of rape? Or any reason? No. Then it's relevant.

Whatever about the rest of the arguments this line of debate is nonsense. There would be feck all discussed on the internet if you took this line on all subjects.

[Angelo]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Are you ever gonna be pregnant as a result of rape? Or any reason? No. Then it's relevant.

Whatever about the rest of the arguments this line of debate is nonsense. There would be feck all discussed on the internet if you took this line on all subjects.

I don't think he's confident enough to construct an intelligent counter argument to the points I made.

[RedHand88]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Are you ever gonna be pregnant as a result of rape? Or any reason? No. Then it's relevant.

May not be a woman, but we were foetuses at one point, and the idea that someone else could have ended my life without my say so and denying my existence is a scary thought.

Can women discuss testicular cancer? Or is this sexist crap you are spewing only work one way?

[t_mac]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Are you ever gonna be pregnant as a result of rape? Or any reason? No. Then it's relevant.

May not be a woman, but we were foetuses at one point, and the idea that someone else could have ended my life without my say so and denying my existence is a scary thought.

Can women discuss testicular cancer? Or is this sexist crap you are spewing only work one way?

So you hitting the rubber wall, that ok?

[t_mac]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Irrelevant to you then!

[RadioGAAGAA]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Irrelevant to you then!

Whatever, it is not a counter argument.

[t_mac]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Irrelevant to you then!

Whatever, it is not a counter argument.

That was a statement of fact. You preggers?

[tonto1888]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Are you ever gonna be pregnant as a result of rape? Or any reason? No. Then it's relevant.

May not be a woman, but we were foetuses at one point, and the idea that someone else could have ended my life without my say so and denying my existence is a scary thought.

Can women discuss testicular cancer? Or is this sexist crap you are spewing only work one way?

So don't think about it then. Do you spend your days thinking that some yahoo could stab you in the street ending your life without your say so? Do you spend your days thinking about the fact that some bomber could have ended your life without your day so during the troubles? I doubt it.

[RedHand88]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Are you ever gonna be pregnant as a result of rape? Or any reason? No. Then it's relevant.

May not be a woman, but we were foetuses at one point, and the idea that someone else could have ended my life without my say so and denying my existence is a scary thought.

Can women discuss testicular cancer? Or is this sexist crap you are spewing only work one way?

So don't think about it then. Do you spend your days thinking that some yahoo could stab you in the street ending your life without your say so? Do you spend your days thinking about the fact that some bomber could have ended your life without your day so during the troubles? I doubt it.

Not so much, because I know these things are illegal so there's a deterrent in place.

[tonto1888]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Are you ever gonna be pregnant as a result of rape? Or any reason? No. Then it's relevant.

May not be a woman, but we were foetuses at one point, and the idea that someone else could have ended my life without my say so and denying my existence is a scary thought.

Can women discuss testicular cancer? Or is this sexist crap you are spewing only work one way?

So don't think about it then. Do you spend your days thinking that some yahoo could stab you in the street ending your life without your say so? Do you spend your days thinking about the fact that some bomber could have ended your life without your day so during the troubles? I doubt it.

Not so much, because I know these things are illegal so there's a deterrent in place.

Yet they still happen so why don't you spend your days worrying about that?

[t_mac]

Luckily for you you will never be in that situation

That is not a counter argument.

It's a statement of fact

An irrelevant fact.

Are you ever gonna be pregnant as a result of rape? Or any reason? No. Then it's relevant.

May not be a woman, but we were foetuses at one point, and the idea that someone else could have ended my life without my say so and denying my existence is a scary thought.

Can women discuss testicular cancer? Or is this sexist crap you are spewing only work one way?

So don't think about it then. Do you spend your days thinking that some yahoo could stab you in the street ending your life without your say so? Do you spend your days thinking about the fact that some bomber could have ended your life without your day so during the troubles? I doubt it.

Not so much, because I know these things are illegal so there's a deterrent in place.

Yet they still happen so why don't you spend your days worrying about that?

He also probably worries about the fact someone could have left him with major issues by not looking after themselves during pregnancy, by smoking and drinking throughout all without his say.  One chap in China sued his parents for being born without his say, society - lets be honest the 21st century society is a strange place.