Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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paddyjohn

Always hard with a young team against more experienced opposition. Be interesting to see how they fare.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Always hard with a young team against more experienced opposition. Be interesting to see how they fare.

Aye plenty of the old hands still about, believe the McGourty's are playing this year and Karl, Aidso, Mackers, Austin, Burkey and co so good blend
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

paddyjohn

Experience counts for a whole lot at that level. They could suprise a few lads.

Na Glinntí Glasa

would love to see more clubs compete in the senior hurling championship. with cloughmills and Cloney now competing in it we should be encouring more clubs to compete in it. work it like KK or Tipp with a losers section where the bottom team gets put back down into the intermediate championship.

cloney and creggan are doing great work at hurling and they should be encouraged to push on and become senior hurling clubs. too many clubs accept what they are and are happy to compete at lower levels just about doing enough.

lgiel set a standard in antrim and we all compete to be as good as them. we have to match that and the likes of ourselves and cdall, ballycastle, st johns etc have all upped our games to try and match it. im looking forward to this coming season.
hurl like f**k boi!

CSC

Ref Creggan - Dual Club

The big issue here lads is Antrim's scheduling of games.

At underage, Creggan have been successful at combining both codes with limited resources, because N Antrim & SW Antrim do a great job in ensuring the nights for the various grades don't clash

At senior level, it is more difficult as clashes always happen.

Creggan is a predominantly football club, with more kids attracted to football due to various reasons. So if CCC fixture scheduling enables us to run both teams without clashing then hurling will continue to grow.

The Creggan area has always had an interest in hurling. Growing up (early - mid 80's)  a Belfast man (Damion Graham) restarted hurling in the club for U8 -U14 and he really got the hurling interest flowing.

We fielded our first senior team in the SW Antrim hurling championship and N Antrim leagues in the early 90's and finally a team in the Antrim leagues in the mid-late 90's.

Paul O'Neill & Tommy kickstarted youth hurling again in the late 90's early 00's, but the club was better suited to long term success as we had more coaches available,  (part of this was down to guys who hurled a bit in the 80's) but we also had a senior team where the players could grad. onto.

So it has taken the club about 30 years to get to this point.
Realistically however, we will remain an intermediate / Junior team for the nexts few years simply due to numbers

theskull1

Don't forget Dermot Carey's work in those early/mid noughties (forget the fella along with him)

T McCann has done tireless work there at all levels  it has to be said

Good emphasis on skill development in Creggan at juvenile
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: theskull1 on January 29, 2014, 01:07:49 PM
Don't forget Dermot Carey's work in those early/mid noughties (forget the fella along with him)

T McCann has done tireless work there at all levels  it has to be said

Good emphasis on skill development in Creggan at juvenile

Yes they also won a few B grade juvenile championships and won them well. Would (in hurling anyways) Creggan and Tir Na Og be an amalgamation idea?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

btdtgtt

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Quote from: CSC on January 29, 2014, 01:00:29 PM
Ref Creggan - Dual Club

The big issue here lads is Antrim's scheduling of games.

At underage, Creggan have been successful at combining both codes with limited resources, because N Antrim & SW Antrim do a great job in ensuring the nights for the various grades don't clash

At senior level, it is more difficult as clashes always happen.

Creggan is a predominantly football club, with more kids attracted to football due to various reasons. So if CCC fixture scheduling enables us to run both teams without clashing then hurling will continue to grow.

The Creggan area has always had an interest in hurling. Growing up (early - mid 80's)  a Belfast man (Damion Graham) restarted hurling in the club for U8 -U14 and he really got the hurling interest flowing.

We fielded our first senior team in the SW Antrim hurling championship and N Antrim leagues in the early 90's and finally a team in the Antrim leagues in the mid-late 90's.

Paul O'Neill & Tommy kickstarted youth hurling again in the late 90's early 00's, but the club was better suited to long term success as we had more coaches available,  (part of this was down to guys who hurled a bit in the 80's) but we also had a senior team where the players could grad. onto.

So it has taken the club about 30 years to get to this point.
Realistically however, we will remain an intermediate / Junior team for the nexts few years simply due to numbers

Unfortunately the higher the level the hurling goes - the more demands are necessary.
This inevitabley encroaches into football.
Where is the compromise between the fire fighter and the arsonist?
One has to give - or they both will.
Ask MR2!

Milltown Row2

Quote from: btdtgtt on January 29, 2014, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: CSC on January 29, 2014, 01:00:29 PM
Ref Creggan - Dual Club

The big issue here lads is Antrim's scheduling of games.

At underage, Creggan have been successful at combining both codes with limited resources, because N Antrim & SW Antrim do a great job in ensuring the nights for the various grades don't clash

At senior level, it is more difficult as clashes always happen.

Creggan is a predominantly football club, with more kids attracted to football due to various reasons. So if CCC fixture scheduling enables us to run both teams without clashing then hurling will continue to grow.

The Creggan area has always had an interest in hurling. Growing up (early - mid 80's)  a Belfast man (Damion Graham) restarted hurling in the club for U8 -U14 and he really got the hurling interest flowing.

We fielded our first senior team in the SW Antrim hurling championship and N Antrim leagues in the early 90's and finally a team in the Antrim leagues in the mid-late 90's.

Paul O'Neill & Tommy kickstarted youth hurling again in the late 90's early 00's, but the club was better suited to long term success as we had more coaches available,  (part of this was down to guys who hurled a bit in the 80's) but we also had a senior team where the players could grad. onto.

So it has taken the club about 30 years to get to this point.
Realistically however, we will remain an intermediate / Junior team for the nexts few years simply due to numbers

Unfortunately the higher the level oh hurling goes - the more demands are necessary.
This inevitable encroaches into football.
Where is the compromise between the fire fighter and the arsonist?
One has to give - or they both will.
Ask MR2!

I'm a patient man, I'm here for the long haul, hopefully we will get a go at it again
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

CSC

Years ago, (50's - 60's) I understand that Antrim had a process of "Winter Football leagues" and "Summer Hurling Leagues"

At that time Creggan supported hurling as there was no clash.

Maybe Antrim need to think "outside of the box" and come up with a phased calender.

This works in the US, Fall/Winter - Football, hockey, basketball, indoor athletics, Spring Summer - Soccer, Lacross, athletics

I honesty believe that this would be the best system.Radical change, but it would work

btdtgtt

Quote from: CSC on January 30, 2014, 04:25:28 PM
Years ago, (50's - 60's) I understand that Antrim had a process of "Winter Football leagues" and "Summer Hurling Leagues"

At that time Creggan supported hurling as there was no clash.

Maybe Antrim need to think "outside of the box" and come up with a phased calender.

This works in the US, Fall/Winter - Football, hockey, basketball, indoor athletics, Spring Summer - Soccer, Lacross, athletics

I honesty believe that this would be the best system.Radical change, but it would work

Genius. I wish this happened!

bealfeirste

Pitches wouldn't hold out unfortunately.

stibhan

Sorry lads but if you think that makes any sense you are mental. Going back to a calendar in the 1950's to solve a problem regarding dual players?

CSC

Ref Stibhan,

Not looking to the 50's for a solution. But if you look at the core principles that the county used in the 50's / 60's, was basically founding on the recognition that we have two sports that we need to manage, and they came up with a structure to support clubs competing in both sports.

At the moment, it is a numbers game, getting leagues completed, in the little amount of time available once you account for county team schedules.

Antrim need to come up with an innovative solution around scheduling so teams like Creggan, Tir an Nog, Dunloy, Rasharkin, Ballymena, Glenraval and the city clubs can support both codes

btdtgtt

Quote from: stibhan on February 02, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Sorry lads but if you think that makes any sense you are mental. Going back to a calendar in the 1950's to solve a problem regarding dual players?

It works perfectly if you don't care much for football!

True that the pitches wouldn't allow for a great season of football - but strictly hurling folk wouldn't care at all!