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#1
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 06, 2021, 09:19:53 AM
Quote from: sam03/05 on October 06, 2021, 08:10:46 AM
Clonoe reliant on Doris etc - same players from ten years ago
Not one decent youth player has emerged in years.
Errigal with Harte, Cananvanx2, Robinson, McDonnell, Kelly, McCrory as well as others such as Oguz
Ten points a better team.

"Not one decent youth player has emerged in years" Are you sure about that?
#2
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
August 12, 2021, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: toby47 on August 12, 2021, 04:04:23 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on August 12, 2021, 03:55:31 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 12, 2021, 02:33:39 PM
Quote from: toby47 on August 12, 2021, 02:23:01 PM
Quote from: viperhiggins on August 12, 2021, 01:49:27 PM
Greatest Tyrone Team of the 2000s

1. Niall Morgan
2. A. McCrory
3. J.McMahon
4. P. Hampsey
5. P. Harte
6. C. Gormley
7. P. Jordan
8. C. Cavanagh
9. S. Cavanagh
10. O. Mulligan
11. R. Donnelly
12. B. Dooher
13. C. McCullagh
14. God
15. C. McShane

Honourable Mentions:
J. Devine
N. Sludden
S. O'Neill
B. McGuigan
C. McAnallen

Collie McCullagh over Stevie O'Neill?  :o

Once I seen stevie o'neill was off the list I stopped reading it lol

Once I seen the keeper & full back line that was enough for me. No Ricey, No Cormac, no Packie. Then up front we have no McGuigan & No Stevie O'Neill ....!!!
Viper must have been a fine player himself

Viper is Aidan McCrory

Everyone relax, its obviously trolling.
#3
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
July 02, 2021, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: sidelineball on July 02, 2021, 12:21:01 AM
Looking at the top it's going to be an interesting one, a few of my fancied picks this year:
Dromore early favourites as they steamroll opposition, they play a lovely brand of attacking football and are a really well balanced team with experience and energy. If I was betting Donaghmore might be worth a punt this year, they are a club on the up. Their youth structures are something else, real super force about to explode on the scene. Real ambitions of Ulster and All Ireland clubs with the youth teams they have! Trillick are an unknown really as their main men are all with the county but Lee Brennan hasn't featured at all. The Donnelly's are key as ever but would my tip for the championship. Another up and coming force Moy are 5 from 5, chatting with a committee member last night. The mood in the club is very much one of this is our time. Sitting top of the league and having everyone fit and available. The experience from winning All Ireland intermediate and several u21's in between that as well as having Colm and Sean in charge. Watched the Clarkes last year and going about emulating that success. Hard to argue based on current form and they are ripping teams apart.
Carrickmore are probably everyone's dark horse, have had lots of youth success of late and ready to establish themselves as the main men in Tyrone again. A few veterans still in their to guide and mould the young guns, could be a perfect blend.

This will not age well! Donaghmore going to challenge for ulster and all Ireland titles and the Moy contenders for the championship?? lol go and get yourself looked about! The two teams you mentioned will never win a Tyrone senior title in our lifetimes . Trillick, Dromore and coalisland will be contenders and keep an eye on Carrickmore and Clonoe.
#4
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
June 02, 2021, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: TyroneOnlooker on June 02, 2021, 10:16:54 AM
Quote from: blackball on June 02, 2021, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on June 02, 2021, 09:18:05 AM
Quote from: the prodigy on June 01, 2021, 10:11:43 PM
Quote from: skeog on June 01, 2021, 05:26:33 PM
Conor definetly a loss Dan and Declan average be no loss in them leaving.Club be happy though.

Dan mcnulty average? Go get yourself looked about.

Excellent footballer at club level.  County a different animal though and its a pity he could never really get established at that level. If I were those guys, Id leave too, no point in being fodder playing in house games.

there are some of the players that start for Tyrone that are not excellent club footballers they are actually average club footballers. McNulty had the potential to bring something different to the Tyrone forward line its a shame he didnt get the chance. the managers have slipped up here I think.

Please let this be the end of the Dan McNulty debate. Harte and now F&B have both regarded him as not being good enough to warrant a place. Not everyone can make it at county level. IMO county footballers are now mostly of a similar build, speed and athleticism. I don't think Dan McNulty fits into that. Just the way it is. I'm sure clonoe people will be happy to have all 3 of them available for them.

I dont think its up to you to be able to end debates! who do you think you are!lol The whole reason for these boards are to voice opinions and debate them. 
#5
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
June 02, 2021, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on June 02, 2021, 09:18:05 AM
Quote from: the prodigy on June 01, 2021, 10:11:43 PM
Quote from: skeog on June 01, 2021, 05:26:33 PM
Conor definetly a loss Dan and Declan average be no loss in them leaving.Club be happy though.

Dan mcnulty average? Go get yourself looked about.

Excellent footballer at club level.  County a different animal though and its a pity he could never really get established at that level. If I were those guys, Id leave too, no point in being fodder playing in house games.

there are some of the players that start for Tyrone that are not excellent club footballers they are actually average club footballers. McNulty had the potential to bring something different to the Tyrone forward line its a shame he didnt get the chance. the managers have slipped up here I think.
#6
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
June 01, 2021, 10:41:27 AM
Quote from: sensethetone on June 01, 2021, 10:25:42 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 01, 2021, 09:24:45 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on May 31, 2021, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: bigpackiechestout on May 31, 2021, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 31, 2021, 09:08:06 AM
Good to have some gaa discussion back on here but amazing how naive and silly some comments are.
Some facts.
We lost again at home to Donegal
We threw away a possible win at home to Monaghan but many big players didn't play well again but no Hampsey now captain and no McShane.
We beat Armagh away by five points and deservedly so.

Three decent competitive games but with little training done I'd not be reading too much into any win or loss.

McKenna's lack of form and the old age problem of midfield is still very evident but you can see the new management team are very much in experimental mode and trying nearly every player they have available to them.


We've stayed in Div 1 though just about and that's maybe down to avoiding Dublin, Kerry and Galway more than anything.

Delighted to see how our forwards are showing some freedom of expression again to shoot and try things that before it seemed almost coached out of them and to play the percentage and don't lose possession game. I have yet to hear the word I hate so much, recycle 😂

I get the feeling B&F had a plan to firstly stay in Div one, try out as many players as possible, keep McShane wrapped up for another month of recovery time rather than exposing him to the likes of Donegal, Monaghan and Armagh before the Ulster championship.

I'd say both managers see Ulster as a very achievable goal this first year and anything after that is a bonus.
Who do Ulster play in the semi this year?

There hasnt actually been much experimentation in terms of personnel. There's a lot of lads on the panel who've had little or no game time. Fair enough from the management to want to go with their strongest hand with very few games before the championship, but what we've seen so far is basically what we have for later in the year, barring a potential McShane return

I would to have liked brennan or mcalisky to get a run out to see their form. Suppose the management have a difficult decision as there are a very limited number of games to try out players before the championship.

Irish news this morning. 3 Clonoe men walked away from the panel. Seems odd to walk away after only 3 games

Orla on GMU this morning was doing her best to make out this was a big blow to Tyrone.

Is it not?
#7
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
February 27, 2020, 08:49:05 AM
Quote from: Localexpert on February 26, 2020, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 26, 2020, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: Localexpert on February 26, 2020, 01:19:02 PM
Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on February 26, 2020, 11:28:32 AM
Quote from: Localexpert on February 21, 2020, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 21, 2020, 11:13:49 AM

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you do realise of the 14 outfield coalisland players against trillick in last years semi final 9 are under 25?  however i'm looking forward to see how McDollar copes with the pressure of another well paid clonoe manager coming up against us in the championship!

I hope come closer to the time you can tell us more of Coalislands tactics and player availability Local Expert.

Will Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane start for Coalisland this year v Clonoe in the Championship?

I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting they shouldn't?

Id say Clonoe would love to meet a Coalisland team without Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane, they would no longer be a top 4 side in Tyrone without them

I think mcneice is still in his 20s and this lunatic is putting him down as being too old!

Awful touchy for what was a bit of innocent pre season chatter about a Championship game that won't be played for months. Maybe it's something that is being mentioned round Coalisland, this is the last chance....and a few of the mentioned players have said as much....

The only thing I've heard being mentioned is how happy stevy mcdollar will be no matter what happens during the game  because he'll still get his big bag of money down the road with him.

Clonoe can afford these high profile managers and the options inside the club are a bit limited so why not splash the cash for a manager when you have it? I know yous tried it there a few years ago but obviously you couldn't sustain it.
#8
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
January 23, 2020, 01:32:01 PM
Quote from: Tyrone95 on January 23, 2020, 12:50:03 PM
Quote from: blackball on January 23, 2020, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on January 23, 2020, 12:26:06 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on January 23, 2020, 11:54:33 AM
Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

Why would it not be possible to be on the senior squad if the reserve game was played on a different night? that argument makes absolutely no sense!

So you are actually expecting lads to tog out twice within 2 days.. maybe not featuring in a senior match then travelling to probably the same opponent again to play a reserve match on a monday evening with next to no one at the match. I think it's your deluded argument that makes absolutely no sense

your really not getting the point here are you? They already tog out twice in the same day! and sometimes have to come on and play in the senior game after a full game of reserve football in their legs. They wouldn't likely be travelling to play the same opponent either as the reserve league was going to be split into east and west so im sure the fixtures would have been different. as for next to no one being at the match I dont think that would be the case. 
#9
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
January 23, 2020, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on January 23, 2020, 12:26:06 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on January 23, 2020, 11:54:33 AM
Couldn't believe when I heard the result.  It was like the shock of the referendum all over again only this time remain won when you would have thought leave would have come through by a landslide.

My biggest gripe is that there seems to be very little to no engagement whatsoever from clubs and their actual reserve players.  From speaking to a number of reserve players, a lot where in favour of this new system but nobody bothered to ask them on their thoughts or views which I find the most disappointing aspect and shows a total lack of respect from the clubs towards their own reserve players. 

A few old heads at the top of each club calling the shots.  The gammons have won again.  Welcome to Brexit Tyrone.

As I said earlier Carrickmore did consult there senior squad and their was no appetite for it at all. The lads in their mid to late 20s said they would retire if they were not on the senior squad, which wouldnt be possible if the reserve were playing on a different day.
Maybe if WT4E or his Kildress club had of followed Carrickmores path on player development they wouldnt be in Division. Why would we vote to change something that is working for us?

Why would it not be possible to be on the senior squad if the reserve game was played on a different night? that argument makes absolutely no sense!
#10
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
January 16, 2020, 12:56:30 PM
Quote from: topofthesoil on January 16, 2020, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: The_Slug on January 16, 2020, 11:30:15 AM

if the reserves are on the friday/saturday and not the monday, there's a good chance of being successful

If by successful you mean unsuccessful, then yes, you are correct.

Topofthesoil what would your suggestion be to improve things?
#11
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
January 13, 2020, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: WeeDonns on January 13, 2020, 04:41:49 PM
Reserves to move to a stand alone fixture is good
Monday is probably the worst day though
Friday evenings during "2nd pre-season" would be ideal

Drawback would be for people having to travel long distances on Friday & again Sunday to watch/take part in both games, which is why the regional basis makes sense - although I wouldn't be that keen on playing the same team twice as mentioned by others, I'd prefer that over not getting competitive game time for the bulk of the summer when leagues come to a halt

Doesn't apply for me now anyway as the boots are hung up long ago

If the games were played over the summer when senior fixtures are all suspended you would have some teams loading the reserve games with senior players to keep them active. They are are on the right track trying to change things but the finer details would need to be thought out before a major change like this is made.
#12
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
July 04, 2019, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on July 03, 2019, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on July 03, 2019, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on July 03, 2019, 09:16:58 AM
Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on July 03, 2019, 08:40:09 AM
Kieran Eannetta had a tough time of it the other night, our County U14 manager and another former County player from one of the parishes up there gave him a tough time of it and some rowdy supporters aswel after the game with Killyclogher, did he make a few mistakes that deserved all this or was it a case of bad losers?

Was he that bad that you cant leave your changing room after the game for your own safety??

It's Errigal - of course they were bad loses.

Their behaviour after the game was disgraceful. Their Coaches/Supporters abused the Officials and Killyclogher Players after the whistle.

Were you there?  Which coach gave abuse?

No but a few sources told me Mark Harte and Cormac McGinley...

Would be surprised by Mark Harte but would expect that from McGinley alright.
#13
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
December 05, 2018, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on December 05, 2018, 11:20:26 AM
Easy to be insulting on a message board - impresses nobody of normal mind.

Hardly an insult, he is an average county player. a year or 2 ago he wasnt making the Tyrone starting 15, last season he had a few good games. I have seen him play and dominate club games but hasn't consistently done it at county level year in year out. I think that is fair. I dont know the man personally but im sure he is a decent fella and I wish him all the best on his year out. 
 
#14
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
December 05, 2018, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on December 05, 2018, 10:19:33 AM
Quote from: redhandofgod on December 05, 2018, 09:44:52 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on December 05, 2018, 09:32:54 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on December 05, 2018, 08:12:24 AM
M Bradley gone for the year apparently

If confirmed that's a massive blow for Tyrone.
Why would he be missing for the year, McGeary was in a similar position doing a PGCE in England last year and played in the majority of Tyrone games.

Suppose Bradley has played a lot more football than McGeary over the past few years. Might do him no harm to take a year out of the intercounty scene to refresh body and mind. He's picked up a few high profile head hits over the past few months too. Everyman has their own choice to make, wonderful player though - he'll be sorely missed.

WHAT? wonderful player? not really, good club player bog standard at county level. refresh his body and mind?? what a load of crap
#15
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 31, 2018, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: BIGONE on October 31, 2018, 02:02:37 PM
I don't know for certain but I'd imagine its more like this:

7 x £20k = £140k
Clonoe £140k

B McG - 1 x £15k for 1 year
McK, Gill, Dev - £20k for 2.5 years =£50k (no way they be getting 15 each)
Coalisland £65k

Imagin? thats what your going on??lol