Proof there is no god.

Started by Agent Orange, February 25, 2015, 09:54:26 PM

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Owen Brannigan

Quote from: omaghjoe on May 28, 2017, 08:12:30 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on May 25, 2017, 01:56:08 PM
They believe in evolution because they've no choice. Same as they believed the earth was round whenever it was proven. And now the theory is 'intelligent design', which basically consists of saying 'sure this all couldn't have happened by chance' when of course it did.

What happened by chance? Are you saying you don't believe in the laws of physics?

Depends on what you mean by laws of physics?  Newtonian have been passed by and Einsteinian laws have evolved to much more sophisticated views of how the universe began, continues to expand and will end.

You need to divide the two things, the development of the universe and the development of life on our Earth.

The development of life occurred because at specific points in time, conditions and events coalesced to provide the circumstances in which the original primitive life forms began and then evolution carried on.  The laws of physics had nothing directly to do with the chance events and circumstances which led to life as we know it.

omaghjoe

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 28, 2017, 08:59:28 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on May 28, 2017, 08:12:30 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on May 25, 2017, 01:56:08 PM
They believe in evolution because they've no choice. Same as they believed the earth was round whenever it was proven. And now the theory is 'intelligent design', which basically consists of saying 'sure this all couldn't have happened by chance' when of course it did.

What happened by chance? Are you saying you don't believe in the laws of physics?

Depends on what you mean by laws of physics?  Newtonian have been passed by and Einsteinian laws have evolved to much more sophisticated views of how the universe began, continues to expand and will end.

You need to divide the two things, the development of the universe and the development of life on our Earth.

The development of life occurred because at specific points in time, conditions and events coalesced to provide the circumstances in which the original primitive life forms began and then evolution carried on.  The laws of physics had nothing directly to do with the chance events and circumstances which led to life as we know it.

Your directly opposed to the overwhelming consensus in science, the belief is that the laws in physics set in motion and have been governing the universe from its "beginning". That there is no chance (at least in the classical realm of physics)

Time is not separate from the laws of physics it is governed by them so it does not come into it in terms of a "chance" factor.

You cant divide evolution and the development of the universe the latter defines the former, or at least thats the belief. Unless of course you believe there was some "magical" spark that started "life" in the first place....