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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2018, 10:48:29 PM »
Not happy that they are referencing the GAA and half of the them donít even have the vote on this issue. As private individuals they are more than entitled to campaign for whatever they want apart from those 3 from the North who should, frankly, just stay out of it.
Lol. Freddie Free State speaks for the nation.
What on earth does having a vote have to do with it?
What on earth does an invisible border have to do with it?

Youíve lost the run of yourself in your attempts to distance yourself from the north.

I agree with an fairche on this. MH  and others who neither are affected by the decision or can decide on it should stay out.

They do  not represent  my GAA


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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2018, 10:50:33 PM »
A few fellas spouting contradictions including syferus. Not a week ago half the people in ROI were passing comment and opinion on the Ulster rugby rape trial including at least half of the TDís and senators in the Dail. The affair was broached in the Dail and very publicly covered on social media by the same public representatives. There were demonstrations in cork, Dublin, galway etc and 300 odd pages of comment on here by mostly ROI commentators. This is despite the trial being held under the laws of a different jurisdiction.

Next to no-one in the north attempted to deny the right of people south of the border to pass comment or publicly lobby for one side of the rape trial. I think itís a bit cheap to now state that harte, Cassidy or gallagher are ďblatantly meddling in another countryís legislative processĒ. Where the Labour Party or solidarity blantantly meddling in another countries legal process when their representatives passed slanderous comment against the defendants in an NI rape trial?

The group shouldnít be using the GAA acronym in itís title I agree and itís not defendable but itís contradictory, cynical and myopic to think people north of the border donít have a right to support, or object, to repealing the 8th amendment.

The last I checked no one gets a vote on a criminal case but the jury. Commenting on a court case is a whole different situation to publicly campaigning to impact a imminent vote in a country you are not a resident of. You are the master of the misguided take.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2018, 10:52:30 PM by Syferus »

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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2018, 10:52:46 PM »
It's a contentious enough debate without people who will be unaffected by the result campaigning either way.

By extension medical professionals from the UK should be barred from passing comment on the amendment as they will be unaffected by the result.
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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2018, 10:53:18 PM »
Itís a moral issue. One of perceived right and wrong.
Voting Jurisdiction has nothing to do with it. Much like being from Ireland and campaigning about Israelís treatment of Palestine. Furthermore, we live on the same (small) island. Mickey Harte lives closer to Monaghan than he does Ballycastle. I donít see how the border has any impact on the moral views of anyone in Ireland, unless it suits them to.


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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2018, 10:59:05 PM »
I think Mickey  is losingb the run of  himself and his intrusion into the debate abusing the GAA  name....

We had one extremist northern religious extremist in Dana already and it turned neutrals off, Hartes opinion won't be rated by most, and won't be appreciated by most GAA people who see the  GAA name being brought into disrepute ....

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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2018, 11:02:02 PM »
Itís a moral issue. One of perceived right and wrong.
Voting Jurisdiction has nothing to do with it. Much like being from Ireland and campaigning about Israelís treatment of Palestine. Furthermore, we live on the same (small) island. Mickey Harte lives closer to Monaghan than he does Ballycastle. I donít see how the border has any impact on the moral views of anyone in Ireland, unless it suits them to.

If you have a vote youíre perfectly entitled to campaign. If you donít, the difference is very clear. If this was something like Enda Kenny endorsing a Unionist candidate in the north I can only imagine the uproar here. Ireland is a different country to the north as it stands and only those resident in Ireland will be voting to decide this referendum.

Some people seem to want to have a say but not share in the responsibility of the result or its impact on the nation. Thatís frankly egotistical on the part of people like Micky Harte.

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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2018, 11:03:42 PM »
It's a contentious enough debate without people who will be unaffected by the result campaigning either way.

By extension medical professionals from the UK should be barred from passing comment on the amendment as they will be unaffected by the result.
Have they all come together under a similar type of campaign trying to influence the vote either way? If so then they absolutely should be barred from doing that.

Itís a moral issue. One of perceived right and wrong.
Voting Jurisdiction has nothing to do with it. Much like being from Ireland and campaigning about Israelís treatment of Palestine.Furthermore, we live on the same (small) island. Mickey Harte lives closer to Monaghan than he does Ballycastle. I donít see how the border has any impact on the moral views of anyone in Ireland, unless it suits them to.

Absolute nonsense comparison. Itís nothing like that at all.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2018, 11:07:37 PM by An Fhairche Abu »

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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2018, 11:04:41 PM »
Just like the #ibelieveher campaigns in Dublin about a Belfast rape trial....


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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2018, 11:10:37 PM »
It's a contentious enough debate without people who will be unaffected by the result campaigning either way.

By extension medical professionals from the UK should be barred from passing comment on the amendment as they will be unaffected by the result.
Have they all come together under a similar type of campaign trying to influence the vote either way? If so then they absolutely should be barred from doing that.

Itís a moral issue. One of perceived right and wrong.
Voting Jurisdiction has nothing to do with it. Much like being from Ireland and campaigning about Israelís treatment of Palestine.Furthermore, we live on the same (small) island. Mickey Harte lives closer to Monaghan than he does Ballycastle. I donít see how the border has any impact on the moral views of anyone in Ireland, unless it suits them to.

Absolute nonsense comparison. Itís nothing like that at all.
Explain. You arenít from there. It has no impact on your life.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2018, 11:12:09 PM by hardstation »


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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2018, 11:19:29 PM »
Just like the #ibelieveher campaigns in Dublin about a Belfast rape trial....

Yeah. Rape culture doesnít exsist in Ireland so they definitely werenít commenting on the larger issue that effects everyone. And I must have missed the public vote they had on the verdict because I really should have voted.

I hope youíre being disingenuous because itís pretty hard not to see the huge difference between the two situations.

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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2018, 11:20:49 PM »
Just like the #ibelieveher campaigns in Dublin about a Belfast rape trial....

Yeah. Rape culture doesnít exsist in Ireland so they definitely werenít commenting on the larger issue that effects everyone. And I must have missed the public vote they had on the verdict because I really should have voted.

I hope youíre being disingenuous because itís pretty hard not to see the huge difference between the two situations.
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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2018, 11:22:56 PM »
http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/284050

'The launch takes place at 2pm in the Ballyfermot Sports and Fitness Centre where the GAA stars will campaign for a 'No' vote in the upcoming referendum on the Eighth Amendment.

The GAA stars will conduct a skills training session for local children from 2-3pm, followed by a press availability and the reading out of an official statement thereafter.'


Who in their right mind is going to supply their kids for this photo op?
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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2018, 11:29:22 PM »
For fcuk sake..... why drag children into it as well as the GAA.

0 out of 10 folks and ye're doing ye're cause no favours.
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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2018, 11:35:31 PM »
Was there not similar backing of the gay marriage vote by GAA bodies/players? GPA were definitely involved
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Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2018, 11:37:03 PM »
It's a contentious enough debate without people who will be unaffected by the result campaigning either way.

By extension medical professionals from the UK should be barred from passing comment on the amendment as they will be unaffected by the result.
Have they all come together under a similar type of campaign trying to influence the vote either way? If so then they absolutely should be barred from doing that.

Itís a moral issue. One of perceived right and wrong.
Voting Jurisdiction has nothing to do with it. Much like being from Ireland and campaigning about Israelís treatment of Palestine.Furthermore, we live on the same (small) island. Mickey Harte lives closer to Monaghan than he does Ballycastle. I donít see how the border has any impact on the moral views of anyone in Ireland, unless it suits them to.

Absolute nonsense comparison. Itís nothing like that at all.
Explain. You arenít from there. It has no impact on your life.

Ah here, really? Thereís nothing to be gained from further interaction on this subject by the looks of it.