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Re: Munster Club Championships 2017
« Reply #75 on: November 27, 2017, 10:58:07 PM »
An Ghaeltacht (note the correct spelling) did indeed finish second in Division 1 of the County League.  The problem with using the league as a yardstick is the fact that county panel members do not play in any significant amount of league games.   Clubs with a lot of county men suffer if they don't have a very strong panel.  An Ghaeltacht (and Dingle) have produced many fine young players that helped PS Corca Dhuine win two Hogan Cups.  Expect a few to be on the county squad in 2018, which might adversely affect their league results.  An Ghaeltacht and Dingle are both well positioned to do well in the county championship in 2018.

The pecking order in Kerry is 1) county championship 2) club championships 3) divisional board championships 4) county league.  In fact, the county league was only introduced in 1970 to give some games to players who might have been tempted to do other things as the GAA looked likely to abolish Rule 27 (which did happen in 1971).

Win junior, move up to intermediate and win intermediate you will be senior and entitled to "go alone" in the county championship.  Worst senior club drops to intermediate based on all the losers continuing to play until one team is left in the senior club championship (it takes three losses to be demoted).  Relegation from intermediate, meanwhile, is decided by the lowest finishing position in the league of all the first round losers.  Of the 8 first round losers in this year's intermediate, three were in division 3, with St. Michael's/Foilmore finishing at the bottom, thus being regraded to junior for 2018.

The intent in Kerry has been to have 8 senior clubs, 16 intermediate and 16 junior premier and 18 in junior.  That seems to be the bone of contention here, in that division 1 has 11 teams but only 8 are senior. There are 12 teams in div 1-4 and 13 in div 5.  There is also a junior league of 8 divisions, with teams grouped geographically more than quality, but it suffers from a spate of walkovers.

This may all change this week, as there are recommendations being brought to the county board that may result in changing the entire championship structure and timing.  I'm sure they will seek this discussion board's approval on any new format.  Any new format must be ratified at convention on 11 Dec. so get your comments in quickly.

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Re: Munster Club Championships 2017
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2017, 09:40:24 PM »
Last weekend of action in the Munster club scene with the junior final in both codes set for Mallow on Sunday, hurling first.

Senior Football

QF: 29 Oct.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 0-14 Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) 0-8 in Clonmel 2pm
QF:               Nemo Rangers (Cork) w/o (Waterford) scr.

SF: 12 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 2-19 Kilmurry-Ibrickane (Clare) 0-10 in Dr. Crokes GAA, Lewis Road, Killarney (not Fitzgerald Stadium) 2pm
SF: 12 Nov.  Nemo Rangers (Cork) 2-17 Adare (Limerick) 0-4 in Mallow 2:45pm

Final: 26 Nov Nemo Rangers (Cork) 0-16 Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 0-11 in Pairc Ui Rinn 2pm

Intermediate Football

QF: 29 Oct. Mallow (Cork) 1-11 Dungarvan (Waterford) 0-11 in Dungarvan 2pm
QF: 5 Nov. St Senans (Limerick) 0-12 v Kiladangan (Tipperary) 0-8  in Toomevara 2pm

SF: 12 Nov. St Senans (Limerick) 2-11  Kilmihil (Clare) 2-8 in Newcastlewest 2pm
SF: 12 Nov. An Ghaeltacht (Kerry) 1-19 Mallow (Cork) 1-8  in Austin Stack Park, Tralee 1pm

Final:  26 Nov An Ghaeltacht (Kerry) 3-21 St Senans (Limerick) 0-8 in Tralee 2pm

Junior Football

QF: 5 Nov.  Knocknagree (Cork) 5-15 v Knockavilla Kickhams (Tipperary) 0-8 in Mallow 2pm
QF: 5 Nov.  Dromid Pearses (Kerry) 0-14 Naomh Eoin (Clare) 0-10  in Cross, Co. Clare 2pm

SF: 19 Nov.  Knocknagree (Cork) 2-16 Sliabh gCua – St. Mary’s (Waterford) 1-7 in Mallow 2pm
SF: 18 Nov.  Dromid Pearses (Kerry) 2-17 Galtee Gaels (Limerick) 3-10 AET in Dromid GAA 1pm

Final: 3 Dec. Dromid Pearses (Kerry) v Knocknagree (Cork) in Mallow 3:15pm

Senior Hurling

QF: 29 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-21 Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 1-19 AET in Walsh Park, Waterford 2pm

SF: 5 Nov.  Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-18 v Sixmilebridge (Clare) 1-17 in Walsh Park, Waterford 2pm
SF: 5 Nov.  Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-26 v Blackrock (Cork) 0-10 in Gaelic Grounds, Limerick 2pm

Final: 19 Nov. Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 3-15 Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-10 Semple Stadium, Thurles 2pm

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 22 Oct. Kanturk (Cork) 2-17 St Mary’s (Tipperary) 0-11 in Mallow
QF: 22 Oct.  Kilmaley (Clare) 1-20 Murroe-Boher  (Limerick) 0-22 AET in Cusack Park, Ennis

SF: 5 Nov. Kanturk (Cork) 1-20 Ballyduff (Kerry) 2-12  in Austin Stack Park, Tralee 2pm
SF: 5 Nov. Kilmaley (Clare) 0-24 v An Rinn (Waterford) 1-8 in Cusack Park, Ennis 2pm

Final: 19 Nov Kanturk (Cork) 1-23 Kilmaley (Clare) 0-25 Gaelic Grounds, Limerick 2pm

Junior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct.  Ballybacon-Grange (Tipperary) 5-24 Kenmare (Kerry) 1-4 in Ardfinnan 2pm
QF: 5 Nov.  Ardmore (Waterford) 4-20 St. Patrick’s (Limerick) 0-11 in Gaelic Grounds, Limerick 12 noon

SF: 12 Nov.  Ballybacon-Grange (Tipperary) 1-11 St. Catherines (Cork) 0-9 in Ardfinnan 2pm
SF: 12 Nov.  Ardmore (Waterford) 5-22 Luban Duige (Bodyke) (Clare) 1-8 in WIT Carriganore 2pm

Final: 3 Dec.  Ardmore (Waterford) v Ballybacon-Grange (Tipperary) in Mallow 1:30pm
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Re: Munster Club Championships 2017
« Reply #77 on: December 03, 2017, 09:36:01 PM »
Knocknagree are munster junior football champions after a 3 point win v Dromid after extra time.  Really could have gone either way as Knocknagree equalised with the last kick of normal time. They fell behind by 2 points in extra time before a goal gave them a lead they never lost. Excellent game.

In the hurling Ardmore from Waterford were that bit too strong for Ballybacon Grange. I think they ended up with 12 or 13 men while Ballybacon ended with 14 but it didn't look like a nasty game. I only saw the last 20 minutes. It was very close until a 2-2 burst from Ardmore early in the second half gave them a lead they were fairly comfortable defending even if Brendan Cummins got a late goal from a free to put 6 between them. Gas to see a junior hurling game with the likes of Brendan Cummins and Seamus and Declan Prendergast playing.

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Re: Munster Club Championships 2017
« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2017, 09:46:15 PM »
That's only the 3rd time in 17 years that a Kerry team has not won the Munster Football Junior Club Championship. The other three times it has been won by Cork clubs. Have nothing against Dromid Pearses, but it is good to see the weighted Kerry Champions put on their arse.

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Re: Munster Club Championships 2017
« Reply #79 on: December 03, 2017, 10:12:13 PM »
That's it for 2017.  Cork take two football titles to Kerry's one, while Limerick, Cork and Waterford have a hurling title each.

Senior Football

QF: 29 Oct.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 0-14 Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) 0-8 in Clonmel 2pm
QF:               Nemo Rangers (Cork) w/o (Waterford) scr.

SF: 12 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 2-19 Kilmurry-Ibrickane (Clare) 0-10 in Dr. Crokes GAA, Lewis Road, Killarney (not Fitzgerald Stadium) 2pm
SF: 12 Nov.  Nemo Rangers (Cork) 2-17 Adare (Limerick) 0-4 in Mallow 2:45pm

Final: 26 Nov Nemo Rangers (Cork) 0-16 Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 0-11 in Pairc Ui Rinn 2pm

Intermediate Football

QF: 29 Oct. Mallow (Cork) 1-11 Dungarvan (Waterford) 0-11 in Dungarvan 2pm
QF: 5 Nov. St Senans (Limerick) 0-12 v Kiladangan (Tipperary) 0-8  in Toomevara 2pm

SF: 12 Nov. St Senans (Limerick) 2-11  Kilmihil (Clare) 2-8 in Newcastlewest 2pm
SF: 12 Nov. An Ghaeltacht (Kerry) 1-19 Mallow (Cork) 1-8  in Austin Stack Park, Tralee 1pm

Final:  26 Nov An Ghaeltacht (Kerry) 3-21 St Senans (Limerick) 0-8 in Tralee 2pm

Junior Football

QF: 5 Nov.  Knocknagree (Cork) 5-15 v Knockavilla Kickhams (Tipperary) 0-8 in Mallow 2pm
QF: 5 Nov.  Dromid Pearses (Kerry) 0-14 Naomh Eoin (Clare) 0-10  in Cross, Co. Clare 2pm

SF: 19 Nov.  Knocknagree (Cork) 2-16 Sliabh gCua – St. Mary’s (Waterford) 1-7 in Mallow 2pm
SF: 18 Nov.  Dromid Pearses (Kerry) 2-17 Galtee Gaels (Limerick) 3-10 AET in Dromid GAA 1pm

Final: 3 Dec. Knocknagree (Cork) 1-17 Dromid Pearses (Kerry) 2-11 AET in Mallow 3:15pm

Senior Hurling

QF: 29 Oct. Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-21 Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 1-19 AET in Walsh Park, Waterford 2pm

SF: 5 Nov.  Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-18 v Sixmilebridge (Clare) 1-17 in Walsh Park, Waterford 2pm
SF: 5 Nov.  Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-26 v Blackrock (Cork) 0-10 in Gaelic Grounds, Limerick 2pm

Final: 19 Nov. Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 3-15 Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-10 Semple Stadium, Thurles 2pm

Intermediate Hurling

QF: 22 Oct. Kanturk (Cork) 2-17 St Mary’s (Tipperary) 0-11 in Mallow
QF: 22 Oct.  Kilmaley (Clare) 1-20 Murroe-Boher  (Limerick) 0-22 AET in Cusack Park, Ennis

SF: 5 Nov. Kanturk (Cork) 1-20 Ballyduff (Kerry) 2-12  in Austin Stack Park, Tralee 2pm
SF: 5 Nov. Kilmaley (Clare) 0-24 v An Rinn (Waterford) 1-8 in Cusack Park, Ennis 2pm

Final: 19 Nov Kanturk (Cork) 1-23 Kilmaley (Clare) 0-25 Gaelic Grounds, Limerick 2pm

Junior Hurling

QF: 28 Oct.  Ballybacon-Grange (Tipperary) 5-24 Kenmare (Kerry) 1-4 in Ardfinnan 2pm
QF: 5 Nov.  Ardmore (Waterford) 4-20 St. Patrick’s (Limerick) 0-11 in Gaelic Grounds, Limerick 12 noon

SF: 12 Nov.  Ballybacon-Grange (Tipperary) 1-11 St. Catherines (Cork) 0-9 in Ardfinnan 2pm
SF: 12 Nov.  Ardmore (Waterford) 5-22 Luban Duige (Bodyke) (Clare) 1-8 in WIT Carriganore 2pm

Final: 3 Dec.  Ardmore (Waterford) 3-11 Ballybacon-Grange (Tipperary) 2-8 in Mallow 1:30pm

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Re: Munster Club Championships 2017
« Reply #80 on: December 04, 2017, 10:57:38 AM »
Knocknagree are munster junior football champions after a 3 point win v Dromid after extra time.  Really could have gone either way as Knocknagree equalised with the last kick of normal time. They fell behind by 2 points in extra time before a goal gave them a lead they never lost. Excellent game.

In the hurling Ardmore from Waterford were that bit too strong for Ballybacon Grange. I think they ended up with 12 or 13 men while Ballybacon ended with 14 but it didn't look like a nasty game. I only saw the last 20 minutes. It was very close until a 2-2 burst from Ardmore early in the second half gave them a lead they were fairly comfortable defending even if Brendan Cummins got a late goal from a free to put 6 between them. Gas to see a junior hurling game with the likes of Brendan Cummins and Seamus and Declan Prendergast playing.

Still playing? Was he lined out in nets or outfield? he'd be a handy outfield player, we played them many moons ago at the St Judes 7's great craic as the lads all trying to get a goal past Cummins..some banter
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Re: Munster Club Championships 2017
« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2017, 02:28:34 PM »
In goals. Was taking the long range frees as well. He missed a couple in the second half, and got a good ribbing from the Ardmore crowd. When he scored the goal he got a big roar despite the state of the game at the time. He enjoyed that moment at least.