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Title: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: irish345 on June 04, 2019, 12:32:51 AM
If they move them from st patricks day and had them on some saturday in april or something or is the attendance ok or should they be moved from croke park all together but that would take away from the occasion of getting to croke park which would be a pretty big thing for a club player.

Is the current sitaution ok  or do some people get the feeling that people are concentrating on other things on paddys day so do you think having them on a different day would get a bigger crowd.Could it be the case that your not going to ever get a big crowd because gaa clubs are more of a thing supported by their own communities and your not going to get much casuals intrested in club finals unless there connected to that club.

Could having 4 or 6 games in the one day help things aswell have all the junior or intermediate finals on the same day aswell could that help things.

How much are the tickets for the club finals
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: irish345 on June 04, 2019, 12:34:43 AM
Personally myself i like having them on saint patricks day
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 07:42:53 AM
Quote from: irish345 on June 04, 2019, 12:32:51 AM
If they move them from st patricks day and had them on some saturday in april or something or is the attendance ok or should they be moved from croke park all together but that would take away from the occasion of getting to croke park which would be a pretty big thing for a club player.

Is the current sitaution ok  or do some people get the feeling that people are concentrating on other things on paddys day so do you think having them on a different day would get a bigger crowd.Could it be the case that your not going to ever get a big crowd because gaa clubs are more of a thing supported by their own communities and your not going to get much casuals intrested in club finals unless there connected to that club.

Could having 4 or 6 games in the one day help things aswell have all the junior or intermediate finals on the same day aswell could that help things.

How much are the tickets for the club finals

Have you just had a case of Red Bull?
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Eamonnca1 on June 04, 2019, 09:42:02 PM
I'd add the club Camogie and ladies football finals on the same day. That should do something for attendance. Might be tricky to split the takings between three organizations but it's not impossible. Above all I'd market the club finals to tourists, give them something more genuine than paddywackery. There's no reason why Croke Park shouldn't be filled on St Paddy's Day.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: lenny on June 05, 2019, 07:26:47 AM
Quote from: irish345 on June 04, 2019, 12:32:51 AM
If they move them from st patricks day and had them on some saturday in april or something or is the attendance ok or should they be moved from croke park all together but that would take away from the occasion of getting to croke park which would be a pretty big thing for a club player.

Is the current sitaution ok  or do some people get the feeling that people are concentrating on other things on paddys day so do you think having them on a different day would get a bigger crowd.Could it be the case that your not going to ever get a big crowd because gaa clubs are more of a thing supported by their own communities and your not going to get much casuals intrested in club finals unless there connected to that club.

Could having 4 or 6 games in the one day help things aswell have all the junior or intermediate finals on the same day aswell could that help things.

How much are the tickets for the club finals

Need to be played the week before Christmas. Club championship needs to be completed in the one calendar year.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: five points on June 05, 2019, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 04, 2019, 09:42:02 PM
There's no reason why Croke Park shouldn't be filled on St Paddy's Day.

Croke Park will never fill on St Patrick's Day, no matter what you put on. Too many competing attractions in every town in the land.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: five points on June 05, 2019, 10:39:45 AM
Quote from: lenny on June 05, 2019, 07:26:47 AM
Need to be played the week before Christmas.

That would be some traffic balls-up.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Rossfan on June 05, 2019, 11:07:59 AM
Semi Finals early December, Finals in mid January.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 03:18:58 PM
Its grand as it is, the tv coverage and build up to these games are great, if you've been involved with a club that has had the chance to play at Croker on St Patricks day you'll understand then what it does to a club and its future.

For a county like ours to have limited success at county level to having a club represent its county and province in Croke park is some achievment, Loughgiel, Rossa Cushendall and the great Dunloy teams have all graced the pitch on St Patricks day, ourselves and the Johnnies also had that opportunity in football.

The GAA calendar year is packed out, the break to play the semi finals  and finals in Feb and March is of no hinderance to anyone
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Duine Eile on June 05, 2019, 05:09:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 03:18:58 PM

The GAA calendar year is packed out, the break to play the semi finals  and finals in Feb and March is of no hinderance to anyone

Try telling that to Kieran Molloy and Liam Silke!
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: five points on June 05, 2019, 05:18:09 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on June 05, 2019, 05:09:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 03:18:58 PM

The GAA calendar year is packed out, the break to play the semi finals  and finals in Feb and March is of no hinderance to anyone

Try telling that to Kieran Molloy and Liam Silke!

The problem there is the colleges' refusal to play Sigerson and Fitzgibbon finals earlier than February.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Eamonnca1 on June 05, 2019, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: five points on June 05, 2019, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 04, 2019, 09:42:02 PM
There's no reason why Croke Park shouldn't be filled on St Paddy's Day.

Croke Park will never fill on St Patrick's Day, no matter what you put on. Too many competing attractions in every town in the land.

That's defeatism talking. The GAA could do far more to attract tourists to the games. There's more to the country than pubs and the Guinness storehouse.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: twohands!!! on June 05, 2019, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 05, 2019, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: five points on June 05, 2019, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 04, 2019, 09:42:02 PM
There's no reason why Croke Park shouldn't be filled on St Paddy's Day.

Croke Park will never fill on St Patrick's Day, no matter what you put on. Too many competing attractions in every town in the land.

That's defeatism talking. The GAA could do far more to attract tourists to the games. There's more to the country than pubs and the Guinness storehouse.

I'm convinced the GAA is leaving a serious chunk of easy money on the table in relation to getting tourists to games.

11.2 million tourists visited Ireland last year according to Tourism Ireland - I would say that out of that 11 million the number who attended a GAA match was tiny.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: irish345 on June 05, 2019, 06:56:02 PM
They should have the hurling finals and Football finals  on rte 1 or 2

maybe semi finals awell
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: lenny on June 05, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2019, 11:07:59 AM
Semi Finals early December, Finals in mid January.

Why a 5 or 6 week gap. Crazy. Semi early December, final 2 weeks later max. Mid December all finished in time for Christmas.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 08:05:13 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 05, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2019, 11:07:59 AM
Semi Finals early December, Finals in mid January.

Why a 5 or 6 week gap. Crazy. Semi early December, final 2 weeks later max. Mid December all finished in time for Christmas.

So explain why it should be done before Xmas? If four club teams upset the thousand other clubs and 32 county teams there's something seriously wrong!
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Eamonnca1 on June 05, 2019, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 05, 2019, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 05, 2019, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: five points on June 05, 2019, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 04, 2019, 09:42:02 PM
There's no reason why Croke Park shouldn't be filled on St Paddy's Day.

Croke Park will never fill on St Patrick's Day, no matter what you put on. Too many competing attractions in every town in the land.

That's defeatism talking. The GAA could do far more to attract tourists to the games. There's more to the country than pubs and the Guinness storehouse.

I'm convinced the GAA is leaving a serious chunk of easy money on the table in relation to getting tourists to games.

11.2 million tourists visited Ireland last year according to Tourism Ireland - I would say that out of that 11 million the number who attended a GAA match was tiny.

Somebody once told me that the problem is in Tourism Ireland. They don't see the tourist potential of Gaelic games and are more interested in promoting Rugby and Soccer as tourist draws as far as sport is concerned. The last time I looked at a tourist brochure for the country, the GAA barely got a mention anywhere. You could travel to Ireland, spend a week there, and come home as unaware of the existence of hurling and Gaelic football as when you set off.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: lenny on June 06, 2019, 06:58:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 03:18:58 PM
Its grand as it is, the tv coverage and build up to these games are great, if you've been involved with a club that has had the chance to play at Croker on St Patricks day you'll understand then what it does to a club and its future.

For a county like ours to have limited success at county level to having a club represent its county and province in Croke park is some achievment, Loughgiel, Rossa Cushendall and the great Dunloy teams have all graced the pitch on St Patricks day, ourselves and the Johnnies also had that opportunity in football.

The GAA calendar year is packed out, the break to play the semi finals  and finals in Feb and March is of no hinderance to anyone

The provincial finals are played in late november. An example was slaughtneil a couple of years ago had to wait 10 weeks from ulster final to all ireland semi. Then another 4 week gap to the final. That is ridiculous. You say it's of no hindrance to anyone but 7 of those players were lost to derry for their division 3 campaign and it was no surprise that they were relegated. Players don't need huge gaps between games. There is really no issue with having one week gap between games which would mean getting club finals completed in the calendar year.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: five points on June 06, 2019, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 05, 2019, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: five points on June 05, 2019, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 04, 2019, 09:42:02 PM
There's no reason why Croke Park shouldn't be filled on St Paddy's Day.

Croke Park will never fill on St Patrick's Day, no matter what you put on. Too many competing attractions in every town in the land.

That's defeatism talking. The GAA could do far more to attract tourists to the games. There's more to the country than pubs and the Guinness storehouse.

Not defeatism but reality. St Patrick's Day parades are very, very popular, especially with families. It's not like All Ireland Football Final Sunday when there's nothing else on anywhere.

And most tourists don't know Gaelic games exist, let alone care a jot about them on a day when there's always plenty else to do.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 06, 2019, 10:44:39 AM
Theres showcasing/educating Tourists about the GAA and then theres trying to to get them to sit in Croke Park for three hours ball freezing on St Patricks wondering what they are watching when the rest of Ireland is jumping.
Club finals in March might not be the best option for tourism.
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2019, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 06, 2019, 06:58:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 03:18:58 PM
Its grand as it is, the tv coverage and build up to these games are great, if you've been involved with a club that has had the chance to play at Croker on St Patricks day you'll understand then what it does to a club and its future.

For a county like ours to have limited success at county level to having a club represent its county and province in Croke park is some achievment, Loughgiel, Rossa Cushendall and the great Dunloy teams have all graced the pitch on St Patricks day, ourselves and the Johnnies also had that opportunity in football.

The GAA calendar year is packed out, the break to play the semi finals  and finals in Feb and March is of no hinderance to anyone

The provincial finals are played in late november. An example was slaughtneil a couple of years ago had to wait 10 weeks from ulster final to all ireland semi. Then another 4 week gap to the final. That is ridiculous. You say it's of no hindrance to anyone but 7 of those players were lost to derry for their division 3 campaign and it was no surprise that they were relegated. Players don't need huge gaps between games. There is really no issue with having one week gap between games which would mean getting club finals completed in the calendar year.

County teams should not be doing anything other than strength and conditioning work, the same as the lads on the S'niell team would have been doing anyways, was there not a ban on players doing county training and games during December? and a brilliant opportunity for other players to step up in the squad and get selected. leagues are playing in, championships are for winning.

It wasnt as if the lads at S'neil were sitting on their hands to be fair
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: OgraAnDun on June 06, 2019, 07:50:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2019, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 06, 2019, 06:58:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 03:18:58 PM
Its grand as it is, the tv coverage and build up to these games are great, if you've been involved with a club that has had the chance to play at Croker on St Patricks day you'll understand then what it does to a club and its future.

For a county like ours to have limited success at county level to having a club represent its county and province in Croke park is some achievment, Loughgiel, Rossa Cushendall and the great Dunloy teams have all graced the pitch on St Patricks day, ourselves and the Johnnies also had that opportunity in football.

The GAA calendar year is packed out, the break to play the semi finals  and finals in Feb and March is of no hinderance to anyone

The provincial finals are played in late november. An example was slaughtneil a couple of years ago had to wait 10 weeks from ulster final to all ireland semi. Then another 4 week gap to the final. That is ridiculous. You say it's of no hindrance to anyone but 7 of those players were lost to derry for their division 3 campaign and it was no surprise that they were relegated. Players don't need huge gaps between games. There is really no issue with having one week gap between games which would mean getting club finals completed in the calendar year.

County teams should not be doing anything other than strength and conditioning work, the same as the lads on the S'niell team would have been doing anyways, was there not a ban on players doing county training and games during December? and a brilliant opportunity for other players to step up in the squad and get selected. leagues are playing in, championships are for winning.

It wasnt as if the lads at S'neil were sitting on their hands to be fair

What about from Janauary to the end of March? Sit in the gym the whole time?
Title: Re: Would Club all ireland finals get better attendance
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2019, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on June 06, 2019, 07:50:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2019, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 06, 2019, 06:58:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 03:18:58 PM
Its grand as it is, the tv coverage and build up to these games are great, if you've been involved with a club that has had the chance to play at Croker on St Patricks day you'll understand then what it does to a club and its future.

For a county like ours to have limited success at county level to having a club represent its county and province in Croke park is some achievment, Loughgiel, Rossa Cushendall and the great Dunloy teams have all graced the pitch on St Patricks day, ourselves and the Johnnies also had that opportunity in football.

The GAA calendar year is packed out, the break to play the semi finals  and finals in Feb and March is of no hinderance to anyone

The provincial finals are played in late november. An example was slaughtneil a couple of years ago had to wait 10 weeks from ulster final to all ireland semi. Then another 4 week gap to the final. That is ridiculous. You say it's of no hindrance to anyone but 7 of those players were lost to derry for their division 3 campaign and it was no surprise that they were relegated. Players don't need huge gaps between games. There is really no issue with having one week gap between games which would mean getting club finals completed in the calendar year.

County teams should not be doing anything other than strength and conditioning work, the same as the lads on the S'niell team would have been doing anyways, was there not a ban on players doing county training and games during December? and a brilliant opportunity for other players to step up in the squad and get selected. leagues are playing in, championships are for winning.

It wasnt as if the lads at S'neil were sitting on their hands to be fair

What about from Janauary to the end of March? Sit in the gym the whole time?

What about it?