Tyrone v Monaghan, Sun 20th May, Healy Park

[straightred]

Monaghan are in the top 3 teams in Ireland at the moment, and deserve more respect than even that clown Main Street gives them. They had a massive win yesterday. One move that might have won the game for Tyrone would have been petie to the full forward line when Bradley went off and r Brennan in. I'd drop any half back or half forward who can't play a 30 pass to the full forward line or who thinks they are a better forward than Mc aliskey or Brennan. After yesterday I don't think Tyrone's full forward line is a problem. It's the players who think they can contribute more by taking the extra solo 50 yards out.
Tyrone will regroup and win the all Ireland if Harte adapts and pulls in a few form players from the club scene. The super 8s will knock the shit out of. Lot of teams this year so will the qualifiers.  The most flexible manager and squad usage will do well. Smells like 08. I'm growing the beard.

Never mind growing a beard you had better get a clown suit on if you think that Monaghan are a top 3 team and Tyrone will win an All Ireland again with Harte at the helm. Delusional stuff.

okay i'll bite. Who are the 3 above them on the evidence of this year. I'll give you Dublin and Kerry but that's it for the time being anyway

[tonto1888]

Monaghan are in the top 3 teams in Ireland at the moment, and deserve more respect than even that clown Main Street gives them. They had a massive win yesterday. One move that might have won the game for Tyrone would have been petie to the full forward line when Bradley went off and r Brennan in. I'd drop any half back or half forward who can't play a 30 pass to the full forward line or who thinks they are a better forward than Mc aliskey or Brennan. After yesterday I don't think Tyrone's full forward line is a problem. It's the players who think they can contribute more by taking the extra solo 50 yards out.
Tyrone will regroup and win the all Ireland if Harte adapts and pulls in a few form players from the club scene. The super 8s will knock the shit out of. Lot of teams this year so will the qualifiers.  The most flexible manager and squad usage will do well. Smells like 08. I'm growing the beard.

Never mind growing a beard you had better get a clown suit on if you think that Monaghan are a top 3 team and Tyrone will win an All Ireland again with Harte at the helm. Delusional stuff.

okay i'll bite. Who are the 3 above them on the evidence of this year. I'll give you Dublin and Kerry but that's it for the time being anyway

Galway

[straightred]

Monaghan are in the top 3 teams in Ireland at the moment, and deserve more respect than even that clown Main Street gives them. They had a massive win yesterday. One move that might have won the game for Tyrone would have been petie to the full forward line when Bradley went off and r Brennan in. I'd drop any half back or half forward who can't play a 30 pass to the full forward line or who thinks they are a better forward than Mc aliskey or Brennan. After yesterday I don't think Tyrone's full forward line is a problem. It's the players who think they can contribute more by taking the extra solo 50 yards out.
Tyrone will regroup and win the all Ireland if Harte adapts and pulls in a few form players from the club scene. The super 8s will knock the shit out of. Lot of teams this year so will the qualifiers.  The most flexible manager and squad usage will do well. Smells like 08. I'm growing the beard.

Never mind growing a beard you had better get a clown suit on if you think that Monaghan are a top 3 team and Tyrone will win an All Ireland again with Harte at the helm. Delusional stuff.

okay i'll bite. Who are the 3 above them on the evidence of this year. I'll give you Dublin and Kerry but that's it for the time being anyway

Galway

wouldn't think so. Not this year anyway. The way they laboured to beat a malfunctioning mayo team with a man advantage wouldn't suggest they'll do too much. They'll make the super 8s alright but i think that will be their lot

[seafoid]

Would McManus be as good as Nudie was back in the day?

[SkillfulBill]

Monaghan are in the top 3 teams in Ireland at the moment, and deserve more respect than even that clown Main Street gives them. They had a massive win yesterday. One move that might have won the game for Tyrone would have been petie to the full forward line when Bradley went off and r Brennan in. I'd drop any half back or half forward who can't play a 30 pass to the full forward line or who thinks they are a better forward than Mc aliskey or Brennan. After yesterday I don't think Tyrone's full forward line is a problem. It's the players who think they can contribute more by taking the extra solo 50 yards out.
Tyrone will regroup and win the all Ireland if Harte adapts and pulls in a few form players from the club scene. The super 8s will knock the shit out of. Lot of teams this year so will the qualifiers.  The most flexible manager and squad usage will do well. Smells like 08. I'm growing the beard.

Never mind growing a beard you had better get a clown suit on if you think that Monaghan are a top 3 team and Tyrone will win an All Ireland again with Harte at the helm. Delusional stuff.

okay i'll bite. Who are the 3 above them on the evidence of this year. I'll give you Dublin and Kerry but that's it for the time being anyway

Galway

I would go as follows untill Monaghan beat some one of significance in Croke Park

Dublin
Kerry
Galway
Mayo
Monaghan

but if it makes you feel nice and warm to think a team who haven't been to even an All Ireland Semi in recent Years as top 3 then knock yourself out.

[redzone]

Would McManus be as good as Nudie was back in the day?

Big tom was McManus godfather

[DickyRock]

Hearing a lot about it being a great game. I know we were beat but even during the match myself and fellas around me all agreed it was a bit dull. Some great scores but no massive intensity or atmosphere.

Agree with that. Thought the first half it was pensive. Not a big fan of matching the zone. Hard to watch and little contact in the middle of the pitch.

I thought the crowd was quiet as well until the last 5/10mins

[longballin]

Hearing a lot about it being a great game. I know we were beat but even during the match myself and fellas around me all agreed it was a bit dull. Some great scores but no massive intensity or atmosphere.

Agree with that. Thought the first half it was pensive. Not a big fan of matching the zone. Hard to watch and little contact in the middle of the pitch.

I thought the crowd was quiet as well until the last 5/10mins

Well thank God to hear that as I got lambasted here last nite for daring to suggest it was a poor game and many I've met who were there thought the same.

[Main Street]

Hearing a lot about it being a great game. I know we were beat but even during the match myself and fellas around me all agreed it was a bit dull. Some great scores but no massive intensity or atmosphere.

Agree with that. Thought the first half it was pensive. Not a big fan of matching the zone. Hard to watch and little contact in the middle of the pitch.

I thought the crowd was quiet as well until the last 5/10mins

Well thank God to hear that as I got lambasted here last nite for daring to suggest it was a poor game and many I've met who were there thought the same.

Sensitive soul, you must have replied a dozen times yesterday on just how crap you thought  the game was and anybody who thought different hasn't a clue. Nobody lambasted you, mostly you were ignored despite your obsession with the reply button.

[trileacman]

Hearing a lot about it being a great game. I know we were beat but even during the match myself and fellas around me all agreed it was a bit dull. Some great scores but no massive intensity or atmosphere.

Agree with that. Thought the first half it was pensive. Not a big fan of matching the zone. Hard to watch and little contact in the middle of the pitch.

I thought the crowd was quiet as well until the last 5/10mins

It was no classic but was still the best game played this year so far in championship. Most modern matches are quiet until the last 5/10 unfortunately, the Donegal/Tyrone Ulster final 16 was a better match than this but only lit up in the last 10 mins.

It's a fair stretch to call it a bad game though, there was good tactical execution by both sides with some fantastic scores and good interception defending in instances by Donnelly and Burns (that I can recall, I'm sure Monaghan had similar). There was plenty of dross 10 -15 years ago too, someone mentioned the Laois Tyrone qualifier '04, an instantly forgettable game, likewise Tyrone/Sligo '02 and Tyrone Mayo '08 were all cagey, mistake strewn affairs.

[omaghjoe]

Wylie does look on the way out as a full back which is funny as he was the best one around for a wile(y ) there.

Tho hitting that point after the goal shows that he understands what leadership is and what is required from him
How many times during the naughties did Dooher hit a score like that. Understanding that after scoring a goal is when you are at your most vulnerable for a sucker punch and getting a point like that sucks any momentum to for a reprisal from the oppostion and lifts your teammates out of any loss of focus from the goal. In a way it was more important than the goal itself. You cant replace a man like that with technical ability

[seafoid]

This is in the archives. Tyrone were relegated in 2015 and the mojo was not good.

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Re: NFL Round 1: Monaghan v Tyrone
« Reply #95 on: February 01, 2015, 06:23:03 PM »
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"Out-fought, out-scrapped, out-thought, out-determined, out-muscled, out-driven, out-disciplined, out-led, out-strategised, out-played and, ultimately, simply out-done."


Since then there has been promotion and 2 Ulsters but was Sean Cavanagh properly replaced?
Monaghan aren't bad either.

is maybe biger

[Tyrone Dreamer]

Hearing a lot about it being a great game. I know we were beat but even during the match myself and fellas around me all agreed it was a bit dull. Some great scores but no massive intensity or atmosphere.

Agree with that. Thought the first half it was pensive. Not a big fan of matching the zone. Hard to watch and little contact in the middle of the pitch.

I thought the crowd was quiet as well until the last 5/10mins

Well thank God to hear that as I got lambasted here last nite for daring to suggest it was a poor game and many I've met who were there thought the same.

Sensitive soul, you must have replied a dozen times yesterday on just how crap you thought  the game was and anybody who thought different hasn't a clue. Nobody lambasted you, mostly you were ignored despite your obsession with the reply button.

I just couldn't believe that county football is in such a state that so many thought it was a great game. I suppose you're right I am too sensitive - I was crestfallen for those poor souls 

If you thought that was a poor game I honestly think you'd be safer giving up on football. A very good game full of quality play and excellent scores contested by two good teams. Wides were limited and the result was in the balance up until the last 5 minutes with the underdog eventually winning. GAA fans are like no other sports fans in that they seem to expect some kind of perfect game every time they watch a match and every time there is a poor game football is finished.

Any time I read your posts you seem to be talking negatively about Tyrone/Mickey Harte or football in general. Would you not be safer not following the games if they give you such a sense of negativity? Personally I love Tyrone and love to see them doing well and really like football, that's why I watch it. I don't have any real interest in rugby for example so I rarely watch it or rarely talk about it. I'd have thought that was just a logical thing to do.

[omagh_gael]

Monaghan are in the top 3 teams in Ireland at the moment, and deserve more respect than even that clown Main Street gives them. They had a massive win yesterday. One move that might have won the game for Tyrone would have been petie to the full forward line when Bradley went off and r Brennan in. I'd drop any half back or half forward who can't play a 30 pass to the full forward line or who thinks they are a better forward than Mc aliskey or Brennan. After yesterday I don't think Tyrone's full forward line is a problem. It's the players who think they can contribute more by taking the extra solo 50 yards out.
Tyrone will regroup and win the all Ireland if Harte adapts and pulls in a few form players from the club scene. The super 8s will knock the shit out of. Lot of teams this year so will the qualifiers.  The most flexible manager and squad usage will do well. Smells like 08. I'm growing the beard.

Never mind growing a beard you had better get a clown suit on if you think that Monaghan are a top 3 team and Tyrone will win an All Ireland again with Harte at the helm. Delusional stuff.

okay i'll bite. Who are the 3 above them on the evidence of this year. I'll give you Dublin and Kerry but that's it for the time being anyway

Galway

I would go as follows untill Monaghan beat some one of significance in Croke Park

Dublin
Kerry
Galway
Mayo
Monaghan

but if it makes you feel nice and warm to think a team who haven't been to even an All Ireland Semi in recent Years as top 3 then knock yourself out.

Yet you include Galway in your top three even though they've yet to beat anyone in Croke Park in recent years and haven't been to a semi final since (I think) 2001?

[blewuporstuffed]

Hearing a lot about it being a great game. I know we were beat but even during the match myself and fellas around me all agreed it was a bit dull. Some great scores but no massive intensity or atmosphere.

Agree with that. Thought the first half it was pensive. Not a big fan of matching the zone. Hard to watch and little contact in the middle of the pitch.

I thought the crowd was quiet as well until the last 5/10mins

I dont agree about the game, I thought it was a very good contest with alot of high quality from both sides., But i agree with you about the atmosphere.
i thought it was strangely muted., maybe we could put a bit of that down to the drab day, but I find alot of games like that now, lacking in a bit of colour and excitment from the crowd that we used to get.
I would fear that could be the case for the super 8 games as well, if they lack that 'knockout' factor.