All Ireland Semi Final: The Dubs v Cavan, 1730 Saturday 5 December 2020

Started by Hound, November 24, 2020, 08:35:54 AM

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Ed Ricketts

Strange contributions. Of all issues to white knight for in the GAA, the Dublin senior county team seems pretty much the least deserving.

Suppose delusional valour is all some counties have left at this point. Antrim nor Armagh never won much whatever way things were lined up.
Doc would listen to any kind of nonsense and change it for you to a kind of wisdom.

Milltown Row2

Getting embarrassing now.

Croke Park is the semi final venue, has been and will be.

Cavan will play there as will Tipp.

Devaluing it (imo) by taking it out of Croke because Dublin are better is a cop out

Let's talk about the games please
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Rossfan

The Hurling semis are interesting and both could go either way.
Now if only we could say the same about the football.....
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We're going to bring home the SAM

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Rossfan on November 27, 2020, 12:23:36 AM
The Hurling semis are interesting and both could go either way.
Now if only we could say the same about the football.....

Waterford, and eventually Limerick after extra time
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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: yellowcard on November 26, 2020, 04:58:45 PM
The difference in Croke Park with no fans and Croke Park with 60k fans is day and night. I really don't think it will be that big of a deal in terms of players handling the occasion. The bigger dimension of the pitch and the travel & logistics in getting there is another matter and that is where Dublin may gain an edge if they even needed one to begin with.

The extra week will do Cavan no harm just to come back down to earth after the euphoria of last weekend. If they had to play again this Sunday they might have great difficulty in getting back up for another game so soon. Last Sunday will have been their All Ireland final in many respects. If Donegal had beaten Cavan last weekend most people would be viewing next weekends game as an All Ireland decider and that is the way Cavan have to approach the game. They have beaten a side that many consider to be number 3 in the country after Dublin & Kerry. And deservedly beat them. That must give them massive confidence going into next weekends encounter and I am sure that Mickey Graham will have a plan. His Mullinaghta side beat a red hot fancied Kilmacud side in a provincial club decider a few years back which would have been a similar sized task to what Cavan will face next weekend.

What 'travel and logistics'? They need to get from Cavan to Dublin on a Saturday afternoon. Its not like the lads who had to travel 12,000 miles for that Russian league games, is it.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 26, 2020, 10:52:11 PM
Some amount of yaps on this board. Yes Dublin have all the advantages, the money, the population and whatever the f**k else you want to cry about. But at the end of the day it's 15 on 15 and the c***ts are human, cut them and they bleed the same as you or me.

Most teams are bate before they play them, every team in Leinster has shite the bed for years now. The teams that get near them lately (Mayo and Kerry) push up and get tore into them. I guarantee you Cavan will be a whole lot closer to the Dubs than people think because if they can bring the same intensity they did to the Donegal game they'll cause Dublin problems, to be honest they probably don't have the quality of Kerry/Mayo, but they absolutely will no fear Dublin and give them no respect.

I know if I was playing county football instead of crying about how unfair it all is, the scalp of the best team we've ever seen would be some motivation.

Anyway the very best of luck to Cavan, would be absolutely magical for them to do it.

Its no guarantee that Cavan will bring that type of intensity into this semi final, if they don't one has to fear the worst for them. Mayo lost by 10 points in the semi final last year to Dublin and Tyrones last semi final against the Dubs was a 12 point defeat.
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seafoid

Quote from: BennyCake on November 26, 2020, 09:10:56 PM
If Dublin win the AI this year, they should be barred from the next 5 championship. Not allowed to meet or train together.

Yes it's a mad idea, but even if the GAA ploughed millions into other counties, like those with cities/large towns like Limerick, Antrim, Louth, Waterford, Laois, Sligo etc. Even ploughing millions into top 12 counties to build centres of excellences etc, it could be years before we'd see improvement or those counties anywhere near challenging. The AI championship will be dead as a dodo by then.

The 31 counties could form a breakaway championship and give the Dubs a wildcard once a decade.

The Dubs could follow the Harlem Globetrotters model for the other 9 years
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Itchy

Quote from: Blowitupref on November 27, 2020, 12:56:41 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 26, 2020, 10:52:11 PM
Some amount of yaps on this board. Yes Dublin have all the advantages, the money, the population and whatever the f**k else you want to cry about. But at the end of the day it's 15 on 15 and the c***ts are human, cut them and they bleed the same as you or me.

Most teams are bate before they play them, every team in Leinster has shite the bed for years now. The teams that get near them lately (Mayo and Kerry) push up and get tore into them. I guarantee you Cavan will be a whole lot closer to the Dubs than people think because if they can bring the same intensity they did to the Donegal game they'll cause Dublin problems, to be honest they probably don't have the quality of Kerry/Mayo, but they absolutely will no fear Dublin and give them no respect.

I know if I was playing county football instead of crying about how unfair it all is, the scalp of the best team we've ever seen would be some motivation.

Anyway the very best of luck to Cavan, would be absolutely magical for them to do it.

Its no guarantee that Cavan will bring that type of intensity into this semi final, if they don't one has to fear the worst for them. Mayo lost by 10 points in the semi final last year to Dublin and Tyrones last semi final against the Dubs was a 12 point defeat.

We can only hope that Cavan can bring the intensity they did against Donegal but that is not the only reason they won. Remember they played 20+ minutes of that game with 14 vrs 15 so there was more going on than that. Rotating players in and out of FF line, Galligan from MF to FF. They created a number of height mismatches in the FF line as a result and they utilised high ball occassionally to keep Donegal honest. I think as much as intensity can Cavan bring something different to Dublin, something they maybe are not used to dealing with. Most teams set up to contain the dubs, I am not so sure Cavan will do this. Of course this could all majorly backfire but I think someone has to try something different cos up to this point everything tried has failed. We have to hope the dubs are a bit off colour, complacent etc and god forbid we might get the rub of the green from a ref this time.

Angelo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2020, 12:10:58 AM
Getting embarrassing now.

Croke Park is the semi final venue, has been and will be.

Cavan will play there as will Tipp.

Devaluing it (imo) by taking it out of Croke because Dublin are better is a cop out

Let's talk about the games please

Croke Park is not a neutral venue. Asking for fairness and not having a super-funded county with huge natural advantages to be even further advantaged by playing their game in their nominated home ground is not devaluing it. It's looking for some tiny bit of integrity to be restored to the competition.

Obviously your Galls shame can't allow you to speak impartially on this matter.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Angelo on November 27, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2020, 12:10:58 AM
Getting embarrassing now.

Croke Park is the semi final venue, has been and will be.

Cavan will play there as will Tipp.

Devaluing it (imo) by taking it out of Croke because Dublin are better is a cop out

Let's talk about the games please

Croke Park is not a neutral venue. Asking for fairness and not having a super-funded county with huge natural advantages to be even further advantaged by playing their game in their nominated home ground is not devaluing it. It's looking for some tiny bit of integrity to be restored to the competition.

Obviously your Galls shame can't allow you to speak impartially on this matter.

That's what it is, Galls shame  >:(

In other news, will Tyrone club football ever get off the ground?
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Angelo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2020, 11:39:38 AM
Quote from: Angelo on November 27, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2020, 12:10:58 AM
Getting embarrassing now.

Croke Park is the semi final venue, has been and will be.

Cavan will play there as will Tipp.

Devaluing it (imo) by taking it out of Croke because Dublin are better is a cop out

Let's talk about the games please

Croke Park is not a neutral venue. Asking for fairness and not having a super-funded county with huge natural advantages to be even further advantaged by playing their game in their nominated home ground is not devaluing it. It's looking for some tiny bit of integrity to be restored to the competition.

Obviously your Galls shame can't allow you to speak impartially on this matter.

That's what it is, Galls shame  >:(

In other news, will Tyrone club football ever get off the ground?

Tyrone club football is a meritocracy.

I can see why you back the overfunded team with huge population and resource advantages now though, clear as day.

I just think that we should really be focusing on trying to strengthen the game in counties like Fermanagh, Leitrim, Longford etc where they simply do not have anywhere near the means to operate the kind of professional setup Dublin do. Can't imagine the Leitrim and Fermanagh players driving along in sponsored cars.
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Milltown Row2

So let's get this straight before you make a fool of yourself (again) no players in county teams around the country haven't received any benefits while being County players?
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Angelo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2020, 12:26:04 PM
So let's get this straight before you make a fool of yourself (again) no players in county teams around the country haven't received any benefits while being County players?

Not whole squads like Dublin no?

Why is it you deliberately try to muddy the waters. Dublin have their squad driving about in 40k sponsored motors, as much as you like to try and bullshit around that, no other county squad have that perk.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Angelo on November 27, 2020, 01:09:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2020, 12:26:04 PM
So let's get this straight before you make a fool of yourself (again) no players in county teams around the country haven't received any benefits while being County players?

Not whole squads like Dublin no?

Why is it you deliberately try to muddy the waters. Dublin have their squad driving about in 40k sponsored motors, as much as you like to try and bullshit around that, no other county squad have that perk.

So 35 players are all getting cars?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Angelo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2020, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 27, 2020, 01:09:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2020, 12:26:04 PM
So let's get this straight before you make a fool of yourself (again) no players in county teams around the country haven't received any benefits while being County players?

Not whole squads like Dublin no?

Why is it you deliberately try to muddy the waters. Dublin have their squad driving about in 40k sponsored motors, as much as you like to try and bullshit around that, no other county squad have that perk.

So 35 players are all getting cars?

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/subaru-announced-as-official-car-partner-for-dublin-gaa

Subaru will provide vehicles to the players and management of the Dublin senior football and hurling teams. They will be driving the versatile & capable 'go anywhere' life-style Subaru AWD vehicle range. The models being provided are from across the range, including Impreza, XV Crossover, Forester and Outback. Both teams will also benefit from a Subaru Forester Van to transport their kit around the country as they compete in the All Ireland Championships and National Leagues.

Dublin GAA continues on a high, with fabulous success on the field in both codes. Over the last number of years Dublin have won All-Ireland football titles, League hurling and football titles as well as Leinster Championships.

Speaking at the signing of the deal Sean Dunne, Financial Controller of Subaru Ireland, said "We are very proud to become a partner of Dublin GAA and delighted to support some of the most talented players in the country, especially at a time when Dublin GAA is having such success on the field in both codes."

Tomás Quinn, Commercial & Marketing Manager, Dublin GAA, said: "Dublin GAA are delighted to welcome Subaru on board as our new Official Car Partner. We are excited about this new relationship and look forward to working together in the years ahead."
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