The Many Faces of US Politics...

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J70

Quote from: Gmac on June 25, 2020, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 01:53:51 PM
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Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 10:53:33 AMCorrect. It makes one wonder, what was that cop in Minnesota thinking?

He either felt it was totally okay to do what he did ( in which case serious questions need to be asked as to what type of psychos they're hiring)

Or he knew what he was doing was wrong but thought he'd get away with it (and now serious questions should be asked as to what types of policies and procedures will be in place)

Having lived here for 30+ years I have had minimal to almost zero interactions with the police. Any minor interactions have all been positive. I'm sure people of color would have a polar opposite view

Entire swarths of big cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philly are virtual no go areas and it's almost impossible to police these neighborhoods. I knew a guy who was in the Chicago Housing Authority police......going around the housing projects executing warrants and providing back up during evictions for troublesome tenants. The stories he'd tell you would put your hair standing on end.

Maybe it's time to aggressively hire from the minority communities to police their own neighborhoods instead of it being a job for the white working and middle classEs

Fair play to ye Whitey, that's not far off the mark at all.

The thing with your man with the knee on the neck of George Floyd he was actually going to get away with it scot free (and might still do) until the backlash occurred.
Image how many similar incidents happen and aren't videoed.

At least cops and Karens now know that they might get filmed.

Imagine what it was like in the past! There's a reason so many minority communities have such a toxic relationship with their local police and justice systems.

Will Smith said "Racism is not getting worse; it's getting filmed".
what other minorities have as bad a relationship with police as the black community.

I'm sure some Hispanic communities do.

Why?

Gabriel_Hurl

NASCAR reporter for Fox Sports - https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1276194657786003462

QuoteNASCAR says of 1684 garage stalls, only 11 have pulled-down tie rope with a knot & only Wallace's stall was a noose .... NASCAR also confirms that the noose wasn't tied like that in the garage stall at the start of the October 2019 race weekend, that it happened during weekend.


J70

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 25, 2020, 06:18:43 PM
NASCAR reporter for Fox Sports - https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1276194657786003462

QuoteNASCAR says of 1684 garage stalls, only 11 have pulled-down tie rope with a knot & only Wallace's stall was a noose .... NASCAR also confirms that the noose wasn't tied like that in the garage stall at the start of the October 2019 race weekend, that it happened during weekend.



No way that could be mistaken for a noose.  :o ::)

whitey

Yes...that is a noose. Pity they didn't release that picture yesterday in conjunction with the FBI Statement

J70

Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 07:00:38 PM
Yes...that is a noose. Pity they didn't release that picture yesterday in conjunction with the FBI Statement

Why?

The FBI confirmed in their statement that a noose had been found.

The photos circulating yesterday, albeit from a much more distant vantage, showed a noose had been present last October.

delgany

#17090
US Treasury officials sent $1.4 billion of its pandemic rescue funds ,( $2.6 trillion ) to dead people!

Jell 0 Biafra

The dead, coming over here, taking our welfare  payments...

J70

#17092
Quote from: delgany on June 25, 2020, 07:40:38 PM
US Treadury officials sent $1.4 billion of its pandemic rescue funds ,( $2.6 trillion ) to dead people!

Assuming the average household got around 2K, that's 700,000!

I think it was all based on tax returns, and given that they extended the deadline this year, and where they hadn't received returns were going to use last year's, I'd imagine quite a few of these are people who died in the past year.

US mortality rate is just under 3 million per year.

Given how fast all of it had to be rolled out, I don't think there was a realistic way of avoiding some level of this.

My auld lad recently received a new credit card from an Irish bank.... more than 15 years after he died!


Main Street

Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 06:26:19 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 25, 2020, 06:18:43 PM
NASCAR reporter for Fox Sports - https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1276194657786003462

QuoteNASCAR says of 1684 garage stalls, only 11 have pulled-down tie rope with a knot & only Wallace's stall was a noose .... NASCAR also confirms that the noose wasn't tied like that in the garage stall at the start of the October 2019 race weekend, that it happened during weekend.



No way that could be mistaken for a noose.  :o ::)
Does that mean the confederate flags can fly again at Nascar?

whitey

Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 25, 2020, 07:00:38 PM
Yes...that is a noose. Pity they didn't release that picture yesterday in conjunction with the FBI Statement

Why?

The FBI confirmed in their statement that a noose had been found.

The photos circulating yesterday, albeit from a much more distant vantage, showed a noose had been present last October.

The FBI.....based in their recent track record I don't believe a word out of their mouths

Secondly there have been several high profile hoaxes involving nooses, so I'm naturally skeptical when I hear one of these stories




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Hate Crime Hoaxes Are More Common Than You Think
A political scientist found that fewer than 1 in 3 of 346 such allegations was genuine.

By  Jason L. Riley
June 25, 2019 6:55 pm ET
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Chicago PD has released hours of unseen footage related to the alleged staged attack on "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett on Jan. 29, 2019. Image: AP
When I asked Wilfred Reilly about last week's appointment of a special prosecutor in Chicago to take up the Jussie Smollett case, he was cautiously optimistic. Mr. Reilly is author of a new book, "Hate Crime Hoax," in which he details how the initial publicity for supposed hate crimes tends all but to disappear if the allegations are exposed as fake.

So does the sustained press coverage of Mr. Smollett—the television actor who was accused of staging an attack on himself back in January, only to have all 16 felony counts against him abruptly dropped for reasons that prosecutors have never made clear—represent progress of sorts?

"It's the archetype of a hate crime hoax. It's one of the most flamboyant examples of the genre," said Mr. Reilly, himself a Second City native. An openly gay black man residing in one of the country's most liberal and diverse metropolises is set upon by two white Donald Trump supporters who brandish bleach and a noose while shouting racial and antigay slurs? "It was a situation so extreme and bizarre that I think we would have had to look at how much racial progress the U.S. had actually made had it really occurred." The appointment of a special prosecutor, and the possibility of bringing new charges against Mr. Smollett, is a good sign, Mr. Reilly added, "but will we see the same amount of coverage when the hoax involves a less famous person?"


Mr. Reilly is a professor of political science at Kentucky State University, and his interest in hate crimes dates to his graduate-school days, when he became aware of several widely reported incidents in the vicinity of his hometown that turned out to be fake. In 2012 a popular gay bar in suburban Chicago was destroyed by fire, and the owner cited homophobia as the reason. The same year, black students at the University of Wisconsin-Parkside reported death threats from hate groups and found a noose hanging from a dorm room door. Ultimately, the owner of the bar pleaded guilty to arson and insurance fraud. And a black student at the university fessed up to sending racist threats and planting a noose.

More incidents followed, and Mr. Reilly's skepticism grew. "This phenomenon of fake hate crimes did not appear to be small-scale or regionally based," he writes. A gay pastor in Texas accused a Whole Foods store of selling him a cake with a slur written in icing. The store produced video evidence that the pastor was lying. A white woman in Oregon disfigured her own face with acid and claimed a black man had attacked her. Later, she admitted fabricating the entire story. After signs that read "blacks only" and "whites only" were found at bathroom entrances on the University at Buffalo campus in upstate New York, a black graduate student confessed to posting them.

Mr. Reilly eventually compiled a database of 346 hate-crime allegations and determined that less than a third were genuine. Turning his attention to the hoaxes, he put together a data set of more than 400 confirmed cases of fake allegations that were reported to authorities between 2010 and 2017. He allows that the exact number of false reports is probably unknowable, but what can be said "with absolute confidence is that the actual number of hate crime hoaxes is indisputably large," he writes. "We are not speaking here of just a few bad apples."


The author's bigger concern, and rightly so, is the growing politicization of hate crimes, especially when they are directed at underrepresented groups and regardless of whether they in fact happened. The sad reality is that there is no shortage of individuals and entities with a vested interest in exaggerating racial tensions in the U.S.—from civil-rights organizations to corporate diversity officers to professors of race and gender studies.

These alleged incidents are invariably seized upon by politicians and activists looking to feed a sacrosanct belief among liberals that discrimination and oppression are the main drivers of inequality. "In the mainstream media we hear almost constant talk about scary new forms of racism: 'white privilege,' 'cultural appropriation,' and 'subtle bigotry,' " Mr. Reilly writes, yet "a huge percentage of the horrific hate crimes cited as evidence of contemporary bigotry are fakes."

If "Hate Crime Hoax" merely offered examples to illustrate the extent of this phenomenon—and the book offers nearly 100—it would be providing a much-needed public service. But Mr. Reilly has a larger point to make. The Smollett case isn't an outlier. Increasingly, it's the norm. And the media's relative lack of interest in exposing hoaxes that don't involve famous figures is a big part of the problem.

Eamonnca1



Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 20, 2020, 10:40:56 PM
2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 22, 2020, 05:25:27 PM
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 7/2 (3.5/1)
Bloomberg: 8/1
Biden: 22/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 24, 2020, 01:00:17 AM
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 25/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 25, 2020, 04:56:59 AM
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 29/10 (2.9/1)
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 28/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 27, 2020, 08:43:14 PM
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 12/1
Biden: 12/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 28, 2020, 06:17:47 PM
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 10/3 (3.3/1)
Biden: 9/1
Bloomberg: 12/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 02, 2020, 06:30:02 AM
Trump: 4/6
Sanders: 3/1
Biden: 13/2 (6.5/1)
Bloomberg: 16/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 08, 2020, 01:35:58 AM
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 09, 2020, 05:45:48 PM
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 6/4
Sanders: 18/1

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Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 11, 2020, 05:04:22 PM
Trump: 10/11 (1/1.1)
Biden: 13/10 (1.3/1)
Sanders: No longer in the top 4

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 12, 2020, 07:36:24 PM
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 15/13
Sanders: 50/1
Deval Patrick: 50/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 13, 2020, 08:04:29 PM
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Sanders: 33/1
Deval Patrick: 33/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 16, 2020, 04:59:46 PM
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Mike Pence: 33/1
Sanders: 40/1

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 24, 2020, 08:17:15 PM
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 11/10

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 17, 2020, 09:59:06 PM
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 5/4

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 30, 2020, 10:18:38 PM
Trump 1/1
Biden 5/4

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 31, 2020, 09:54:28 PM
Trump: 11/10 (1.1/1)
Biden: 15/13 (1.15/1)

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 01, 2020, 05:23:36 PM
Trump: 11/10
Biden 11/10 (1.1/1)

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 02, 2020, 11:37:28 PM
Biden: 1/1
Trump: 11/10 (1.1/1)

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 03, 2020, 05:24:59 PM
Biden: 19/20
Trump: 11/10 (1.1/1)

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 09, 2020, 05:26:13 AM
Biden: 10/11
Trump: 5/4 (1.25/1)

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 11, 2020, 12:01:16 AM
Biden: 7/8
Trump: 5/4 (1.25/1)

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 22, 2020, 09:02:36 PM

Biden: 14/19
Trump: 6/4 (1.5/1)


Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 25, 2020, 12:06:03 AM
Biden: 8/11
Trump: 13/8 (1.625/1)

Biden: 4/6
Trump: 13/8 (1.625/1)


sid waddell

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 26, 2020, 06:26:55 PM

Biden: 4/6
Trump: 13/8 (1.625/1)
Trump will drift in the betting when the Covid deaths start exploding again in a couple of weeks.

I might throw a couple of hundred quid on him to win then, hoping to lose the bet - I'd gladly pay that for him to be gone anyway.

Eamonnca1

He's drifting already. The latest Covid surge is coming cutting across the south and sunbelt states. Won't be good for him.

Gmac

Quote from: sid waddell on June 26, 2020, 11:24:27 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 26, 2020, 06:26:55 PM

Biden: 4/6
Trump: 13/8 (1.625/1)
Trump will drift in the betting when the Covid deaths start exploding again in a couple of weeks.

I might throw a couple of hundred quid on him to win then, hoping to lose the bet - I'd gladly pay that for him to be gone anyway.
put a couple g's on it son