Rugby rules.

[5 Sams]

Sorry for startin a new thread lads but I can't find a better home for it.

I'm a distant admirer of the egg chasing fraternity...I was up like everyone else roaring the hoors on this morning...but....some of the rules and the way the game is played baffles me. Can any of you experts out there give us an oul fool's guide to some of the more mysterious elements of the game...btw...they are tough fcukin men

Specifically..
What's a ruck and what's a maul?
Why does the full back/out half/scrum half kick the fcukin thing up in the air instead of keeping possession?
Why do players not go block a kick the way we do? Hands tight over the kickers foot.
Offside??? wtf.

Thats only the start. Thanks in advance.

Alternatively I could ask the Wobbler but he has his hands full these days...

[trileacman]

Additionally is a try scored if the ball is set against the base of the post, (the big cushion thing)?

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Additionally is a try scored if the ball is set against the base of the post, (the big cushion thing)?

It happened in the Ireland/Russia game - yes it counts

[Tony Baloney]

Sorry for startin a new thread lads but I can't find a better home for it.

I'm a distant admirer of the egg chasing fraternity...I was up like everyone else roaring the hoors on this morning...but....some of the rules and the way the game is played baffles me. Can any of you experts out there give us an oul fool's guide to some of the more mysterious elements of the game...btw...they are tough fcukin men

Specifically..
What's a ruck and what's a maul?
Why does the full back/out half/scrum half kick the fcukin thing up in the air instead of keeping possession?
Why do players not go block a kick the way we do? Hands tight over the kickers foot.
Offside??? wtf.

Thats only the start. Thanks in advance.

Alternatively I could ask the Wobbler but he has his hands full these days...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/rugby_union/rules/newsid_3434000/3434821.stm

[sans pessimism]

Additionally is a try scored if the ball is set against the base of the post, (the big cushion thing)?

yes

[sans pessimism]

Additionally is a try scored if the ball is set against the base of the post, (the big cushion thing)?

yes

sorry Gabriel,just seen yer post

[Capt Pat]

A ruck is a contest for the ball on the ground. A maul is when the players usually forwards come together and bind around the ball and push the other team back like an informal scrum with the ball in hand inside the maul.

I am not sure why teams kick the ball up in the air so much especially when they do it badly. If it is a high hanging kick that makes a lot of ground ut causes problems for defenses. The thing is there are too many badly applied garyowens and box kicks from scrum halves especially.

It can be difficult to block the outhalf in rugby, hard to get there and potentially painful. I do see what you are talking about though players running up and throwing their hands up in the air as if to block. It never works. You have to look at the out half stance and like you said get your hands over his foot.

The offside line is the ball you can't be ahead of it except in broken play.




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Sorry for startin a new thread lads but I can't find a better home for it.

I'm a distant admirer of the egg chasing fraternity...I was up like everyone else roaring the hoors on this morning...but....some of the rules and the way the game is played baffles me. Can any of you experts out there give us an oul fool's guide to some of the more mysterious elements of the game...btw...they are tough fcukin men

Specifically..
What's a ruck and what's a maul?
Why does the full back/out half/scrum half kick the fcukin thing up in the air instead of keeping possession?
Why do players not go block a kick the way we do? Hands tight over the kickers foot.
Offside??? wtf.

Thats only the start. Thanks in advance.

Alternatively I could ask the Wobbler but he has his hands full these days...

[The Subbie]

Can someone explain in plain mans language what the difference between loose head and tight head is?
And when we're at it what makes someone a specialist loose head and a specialist tight head?
And whats the story with the scrums when like leinster a few seasons ago, fella went off injured so it went to uncontested scrums

[Tony Baloney]

Can someone explain in plain mans language what the difference between loose head and tight head is?
And when we're at it what makes someone a specialist loose head and a specialist tight head?
And whats the story with the scrums when like leinster a few seasons ago, fella went off injured so it went to uncontested scrums

In the scrum the tighthead slots his head in between two opposing players. The loosehead will be on the leftside of the scrum and hasnt got two opposing players to get tight against. My take anyway!

[sammymaguire]

I there was no off-side in rugby, opposition players could stand anywhere on the field and wait for a ball passed backwards to be thrown into their hands and then carry on up the field. It would be a total mess if not part of the game.

[Aerlik]

Tight on the right, is the rule.  A tighthead prop, No.3. has two opposition players either side of him.  The prop-forwards' job in the scrum is to keep the scrum upright.
In yesterday's game, it appeared the ref called a mark and gave the Welsh a free kick out of their defence in the first half.  However the man was airborne with both feet OFF the ground when he caught the ball.  When I played, BOTH feet had to  be firrmly on the ground to take a mark. 

[The Subbie]

Right I now understand what a tight & loose head is.
Now what REALLY happens when the two scrubs lock, do both hookers get the heads boxed offa them? Does much nasty stuff go on?
What's the crack with the line out codes when really there is only three places it can go, front middle or back

[David McKeown]

some of the rules and the way the game is played baffles me.

Sorry 5 Sams, not really being pedantic, but the brethren who really follow/know/play rugby get very annoyed if anyone refer to "rules" of the game, it is the "laws" of the game in rugby.  Not sure if this is just snobbery over soccer which has rules and regulations.

It's the laws of the game in football as well though so why don't football fans get as an annoyed?

[sans pessimism]

Right I now understand what a tight & loose head is.
Now what REALLY happens when the two scrubs lock, do both hookers get the heads boxed offa them? Does much nasty stuff go on?
What's the crack with the line out codes when really there is only three places it can go, front middle or back

NOBODY knows what goes on in there-ESPECIALLY not refs

[trileacman]

Right I now understand what a tight & loose head is.
Now what REALLY happens when the two scrubs lock, do both hookers get the heads boxed offa them? Does much nasty stuff go on?
What's the crack with the line out codes when really there is only three places it can go, front middle or back

1. The old rugger lads, george hook and the like, could tell you story of back in the day. He told recently that the most anticipated battle in old rugby was how many blows to the face the two hookers could sustain/make/get away with.

2. for the lineout codes you can go front, middle or back. You can also go forward a step, back a step, or straight jump in any one of these positions. So for example you can go to the front and step forward, step back or straight up.

On top of that there is calls for a maul, calls for a ball thrown of the top, calls for a takedown and pass. Also there is the seldom used tactic of sending the ball of the top and onto a winger. Tried once every twenty years I think.