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Rangers didn't complete an invincible season. They remained unbeaten in the league but beaten in both cups.
Actually a rare feat going a league campaign unbeaten anywhere.

What percentage did the Greens get in the Regional vote?
They didn't stand in most of the Constituencies.

Only really stood in Glasgow Kelvin which in reality would be traditionally a Tory seat as it's in the trendy west end upper class area. They just missed a second seat in Glasgow region as well by 0.3%.

Interesting the SNP got only 2 regional seats many of the votes diluted by the seats they won now if people had of voted Alba 2 in many of these areas particularly the central belt the tories would have lost probably 2/3 regional seats overall

In my area SNP polled nearly 40% of vote but only one MSP elected out of a possible 7. Tactical voting won here.

Ned either  live in the south of Scotland/highlands and islands- if it's the south of Scotland I feel for you a Tory heartland

South. Unfortunately the region included everything south of Glasgow and Edinburgh. Overall the parliament is a decent representation of national voting %s but SNP lost 2 decent MSP from this area.

Looks like the pro-Indy vote (SNP + Greens) will be under 50%. That will put kybosh on any chance of new referendum. Typical Scots - at the end of day they just don't have the balls to go it alone.

Clearly you need to stay of the drink pills or whatever your taking - 72 seats between them simple really to understand ..:: the tories and their former advisor are now admitting it's a when not an if !! If you get a chance there is an Irish fella Ciaran Martin at university of Oxford search his comments on Twitter tell you everything you need to know and he was the architect of the 2012 agreement to grant the 2014 referendum.

I want to see Scottish Independence. But I still say the Scots are too scared to go it alone. With the arrogance of Boris I would have thought they would send a clearer message. The Greens will have 9 seats or so but with less than 1% of vote. It's share of vote that will determine a referendum win and right now it looks about 51 to 49 to pro-Union. That just gives London the ammunition to deny. But I will look up what C Martin has to say.

Greens received 8% in regional vote. You sound like a Tory picking and choosing stats.

What percentage did the Greens get in the Regional vote?
They didn't stand in most of the Constituencies.

Only really stood in Glasgow Kelvin which in reality would be traditionally a Tory seat as it's in the trendy west end upper class area. They just missed a second seat in Glasgow region as well by 0.3%.

Interesting the SNP got only 2 regional seats many of the votes diluted by the seats they won now if people had of voted Alba 2 in many of these areas particularly the central belt the tories would have lost probably 2/3 regional seats overall

In my area SNP polled nearly 40% of vote but only one MSP elected out of a possible 7. Tactical voting won here.

Duckworth - Lewis  is a piece of cake compared to the Scottish electorial system. The Greens do well on it considering they get 6 or so seats  with just few thousand 'first preferences'.

Greens use the system to their advantage. Don't stand many candidates for the constituency votes.

They'd 61 in last parliament .... +2 at the min, it's going to be close either way by looks of it.

A constituency seat might just take away a SNP regional seat, the voters need to pile on to the Greens and Alba in this case.  The system was designed to not allow the SNP get a majority, after all.

The system was in place before SNP held power but WAS designed to give more even spread of political voices.

Plenty of English clubs have been happy to see coach loads of Celtic and Rangers fans landing to their cities and stadiums for testimonials over the years...

It's a guaranteed payday for the recipient of the testimonial. Get Celtic to play they will bring 15,000 to pay £40 to watch a friendly as they're the self acclaimed best supporters in the world.

Self acclaimed? I suppose the actual awarding of that title by UEFA and FIFA kind of goes against that statement.
Anyway, any club mustering 15k fans for a meaningless game for a footballer unconnected with the club points towards fans who are fervent supporters at least.

🤣🤣 quite sad that there is even an award for that.

He could be referring to
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic-win-fifas-best-fans-year-award-1437644%3famp

Or

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/celtic-fans-rewarded-for-behaviour-in-seville-1.514580%3fmode=amp

I am. Don't have much time for such things but it was a response to the "self acclaimed" statement.

Plenty of English clubs have been happy to see coach loads of Celtic and Rangers fans landing to their cities and stadiums for testimonials over the years...

It's a guaranteed payday for the recipient of the testimonial. Get Celtic to play they will bring 15,000 to pay £40 to watch a friendly as they're the self acclaimed best supporters in the world.

Self acclaimed? I suppose the actual awarding of that title by UEFA and FIFA kind of goes against that statement.
Anyway, any club mustering 15k fans for a meaningless game for a footballer unconnected with the club points towards fans who are fervent supporters at least.

Is there any story to explain (top 10 European club) Celtic fc's share price? All of a sudden it shot up by about 15% today.

It was mentioned that them and the gers might be brought into a british super league. Or just added to the current PL. Which wont happen.

It'll happen eventually. I can't imagine Celtic and Rangers being in the SPL in 50 years time.

Rangers and Celtic fans are used to winning at least 1 trophy per season.  When things go on the slide, their interest tends to tail off a bit (This thread being an example of that).  I'm not sure how both sest of fans would get on with perhaps winning a trophy every 5 to 10 years rather than winning everything in sight.

Okay. Rangers have won 1 major Scottish competition in the past ten years but apart from that.......

And do you think they will only 1 in the next 10 years?

Probably not but you made a statement which was incorrect. Just pointing that out.

Is there any story to explain (top 10 European club) Celtic fc's share price? All of a sudden it shot up by about 15% today.

It was mentioned that them and the gers might be brought into a british super league. Or just added to the current PL. Which wont happen.

It'll happen eventually. I can't imagine Celtic and Rangers being in the SPL in 50 years time.

Rangers and Celtic fans are used to winning at least 1 trophy per season.  When things go on the slide, their interest tends to tail off a bit (This thread being an example of that).  I'm not sure how both sest of fans would get on with perhaps winning a trophy every 5 to 10 years rather than winning everything in sight.

Okay. Rangers have won 1 major Scottish competition in the past ten years but apart from that.......

MR your link doesn't even include Dortmund so automatically it's bullshit.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talksport.com/football/477635/best-supported-clubs-aggregate-attendance-celtic-liverpool-manchester-united/amp/

And is about facebook, Instagram and Twitter followers not actual bums on seats fans.

So is it bums on seats or worldwide support?

Both but followers on Instagram does not mean an actual fan of that club.

Celtic are a  top 10 european club, supported by  football fans in massive numbers as defined by actual participation,  that's why the club built a 63,000 seater stadium decades ago.

What idiot would opine that the definition of a bona fide football club fan as being one of a hundred million tv viewers in China/Outer Mongolia/Bihar et.c.

Celtic were a top European club back in the sixties and were competitive in Europe in the early noughties.

Celtic had merchandising income in 2020 of approx £15m.
Spurs had merchandising income in 2020 of approx £22m.

With the global tv coverage of the EPL clubs like Spurs are more well known and supported than Celtic. Just because a club has a big stadium capacity it doesn't make it a big club in europe anymore

That's the kicker, global TV coverage and insane tv revenue are what drives their "bigness" not what the club are or have achieved.

MR your link doesn't even include Dortmund so automatically it's bullshit.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talksport.com/football/477635/best-supported-clubs-aggregate-attendance-celtic-liverpool-manchester-united/amp/

And is about facebook, Instagram and Twitter followers not actual bums on seats fans.

Celtic are a  top 10 european club, supported by  football fans in massive numbers as defined by actual participation,  that's why the club built a 63,000 seater stadium decades ago.

What idiot would opine that the definition of a bona fide football club fan as being one of a hundred million tv viewers in China/Outer Mongolia/Bihar et.c.

Celtic or Rangers are not on this list of top supported clubs

https://thefootballlovers.com/top-10-football-clubs-with-the-most-fans-in-the-world/

Is there another link you could post to show it differently. I'm not being funny I know match day ( I've been plenty times) it's busy and my cousins are mad for selling tickets but you can get to Parkhead a lot easier than the likes of Utd Liverpool

Can you show me that link?

You are on the internet, a couple of searches and you are there. Celtic regularly feature in top ten average attendances and are up there also for matchday revenue.

Sooo record is 1 European cup 50 odd years ago. Been anonymous ever since.
Abysmal European performers would be more apt.

Got to the final abs two semi finals in the few years after 1967. Hardly anonymous is it

Yes, absolutely anonymous ever since winning it once 50 odd years ago.
You're the one that brought up Celtic having won more titles than teams that are in the ESL like Spurs and Arsenal. They've been to finals and semi finals too but the only difference is Celtic won it once. They're not top performers either. So by your own logic, winning is all that matters, and Celtic have won it once 50 odd years ago and been anonymous ever since. They can barely make any headway in the Europa league.

And yet Celtic are still a bigger club than Spurs, Chelsea and City, just nowhere near as rich.
There are Italian, German, Portuguese, Dutch and Spanish clubs who are more successful than Spurs, City and Arsenal in Europe and deserve a mention for any elite league. But of course we know this is only about money and self preservation.