We Need an All-Star thread

[Dinny Breen]

It's only a discussion Muppet beats talking about the Kildare and Mayo hype. Mayo or Roscommon will need to win a Q/F to be considered as Connacht was poor and London were the only team to win a qualifier thus far...

[Donnellys Hollow]

We don't really but as we head towards August who would be in contention, my own team with not much thought gone into it....

1. Stephen Cluxton (Dublin)
2. Shane Enright (Kerry)
3. Rory O'Carroll (Dublin)
4. Hugh McGrillen (Kildare)
5. Aaron Kernan (Armagh)
6. Aidan Flynn (Wexford)
7. Karl Lacey (Donegal)
8. John Doyle (Kildare)
9. Brendan Murphy (Carlow)
10. Alan Brogan (Dublin)
11. Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry)
12. Colm McFadden (Donegal)
13. Colm Cooper (Kerry)
14. Michael Murphy (Donegal)
15. Kieran Donaghy (Kerry)

POTY

Alan Brogan

No room for Big Willie?

[ross4life]

It's only a discussion Muppet beats talking about the Kildare and Mayo hype. Mayo or Roscommon will need to win a Q/F to be considered as Connacht was poor and London were the only team to win a qualifier thus far...

If we beat Tyrone or Armagh (which i don't think we will) i think one of our defenders will get All-Star.

[AZOffaly]

It's only a discussion Muppet beats talking about the Kildare and Mayo hype. Mayo or Roscommon will need to win a Q/F to be considered as Connacht was poor and London were the only team to win a qualifier thus far...

If we beat Tyrone or Armagh (which i don't think we will) i think one of our defenders will get All-Star.

If ye beat Tyrone or Armagh, it's more likely that Donie Shine will get one I'd say. He'll have to be great for ye to win it I think.

[Jinxy]

Graham Geraghty has to get one.

Everytime he touched the ball this year he got a goal.

[AZOffaly]

Graham Geraghty has to get one.

Everytime he touched the ball this year he got a goal.

And gave away a free.

[muppet]

It's only a discussion Muppet beats talking about the Kildare and Mayo hype. Mayo or Roscommon will need to win a Q/F to be considered as Connacht was poor and London were the only team to win a qualifier thus far...

If Mayo or Ros need to win a Q/F to win an All-Star how come all the others don't? Does (for example) not winning a Q/F make Hennelly worse than Clucko but winning one might make him better?

Also neither county could possibily have won a qualifier yet so how can that be used against them?

TBH I'm not bothered at the 2nd (or even 3rd) class treatment metted out towards us in the west. It'll bite someone of ye in the ass yet this year. 

[AZOffaly]

It's only a discussion Muppet beats talking about the Kildare and Mayo hype. Mayo or Roscommon will need to win a Q/F to be considered as Connacht was poor and London were the only team to win a qualifier thus far...

If Mayo or Ros need to win a Q/F to win an All-Star how come all the others don't? Does (for example) not winning a Q/F make Hennelly worse than Clucko but winning one might make him better?

Also neither county could possibily have won a qualifier yet so how can that be used against them?

TBH I'm not bothered at the 2nd (or even 3rd) class treatment metted out towards us in the west. It'll bite someone of ye in the ass yet this year. 

Who would you propose? Hennelly?

[muppet]

It's only a discussion Muppet beats talking about the Kildare and Mayo hype. Mayo or Roscommon will need to win a Q/F to be considered as Connacht was poor and London were the only team to win a qualifier thus far...

If Mayo or Ros need to win a Q/F to win an All-Star how come all the others don't? Does (for example) not winning a Q/F make Hennelly worse than Clucko but winning one might make him better?

Also neither county could possibily have won a qualifier yet so how can that be used against them?

TBH I'm not bothered at the 2nd (or even 3rd) class treatment metted out towards us in the west. It'll bite someone of ye in the ass yet this year. 

Who would you propose? Hennelly?

Don't want to get sucked into that.

I'm more interested in examining the logic that says (for example) a Dublin goalkeeper can be considered the leading contender already (in a team that hasn't reached a final in 16 years) while no one from any county in Connacht can possibly be considered without a Q/F victory.

This is a double standard.

[AZOffaly]

It's only a discussion Muppet beats talking about the Kildare and Mayo hype. Mayo or Roscommon will need to win a Q/F to be considered as Connacht was poor and London were the only team to win a qualifier thus far...

If Mayo or Ros need to win a Q/F to win an All-Star how come all the others don't? Does (for example) not winning a Q/F make Hennelly worse than Clucko but winning one might make him better?

Also neither county could possibily have won a qualifier yet so how can that be used against them?

TBH I'm not bothered at the 2nd (or even 3rd) class treatment metted out towards us in the west. It'll bite someone of ye in the ass yet this year. 

Who would you propose? Hennelly?

Don't want to get sucked into that.

I'm more interested in examining the logic that says (for example) a Dublin goalkeeper can be considered the leading contender already (in a team that hasn't reached a final in 16 years) while no one from any county in Connacht can possibly be considered without a Q/F victory.

This is a double standard.

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I don't think you can 'examine' one without the other.  I think you're being a bit sensitive. Based on the quality (weather influenced in at least two cases) in the Connacht Championship, there isn't really anyone that's been the best in their position based on form so far, in my opinion. It's not that they haven't been thought about, it's just not featured great performances.

[muppet]

If I name a candidate it becomes merely subjective and easy to rubbish.

However, what I am looking at is the premise that no Connacht player can be considered a serious All-Star candidate unless their team win a Q/F. I believe there consensus among most observers here, and almost certainly in the media, that this would be the case.

[AZOffaly]

If I name a candidate it becomes merely subjective and easy to rubbish.

However, what I am looking at is the premise that no Connacht player can be considered a serious All-Star candidate unless their team win a Q/F. I believe there consensus among most observers here, and almost certainly in the media, that this would be the case.

Based on performances to date. If you disagree you'll have to cite examples. Unless you are saying that you cannot possibly merit an All Star ANY YEAR based on Connacht Championship. If that's what you think, then I can only say for myself that that's not true. If a Mayo Corner Forward, for e.g. had scored 1-3 against Galway from play, and 1-6 against Roscommon, and looked that good, I'd have no problem saying he's in the running at this stage.

[moysider]

If I name a candidate it becomes merely subjective and easy to rubbish.

However, what I am looking at is the premise that no Connacht player can be considered a serious All-Star candidate unless their team win a Q/F. I believe there consensus among most observers here, and almost certainly in the media, that this would be the case.

Based on performances to date. If you disagree you'll have to cite examples. Unless you are saying that you cannot possibly merit an All Star ANY YEAR based on Connacht Championship. If that's what you think, then I can only say for myself that that's not true. If a Mayo Corner Forward, for e.g. had scored 1-3 against Galway from play, and 1-6 against Roscommon, and looked that good, I'd have no problem saying he's in the running at this stage.

Roscommon s Seanie McDermott and Mayo s Richie Feeney were brilliant in awful conditions. tom Cunniffe marked Senan Kilbride out of it. As good as I ve seen all year in the most trying conditions imaginable at this time of year. So McDermott goes in at 2 and Richie goes in at 5. Ye can pick Kernan in the forwards where he spends most of his time anyway. He wouldn t have come out with that dog ball the last day

[muppet]

If I name a candidate it becomes merely subjective and easy to rubbish.

However, what I am looking at is the premise that no Connacht player can be considered a serious All-Star candidate unless their team win a Q/F. I believe there consensus among most observers here, and almost certainly in the media, that this would be the case.

Based on performances to date. If you disagree you'll have to cite examples. Unless you are saying that you cannot possibly merit an All Star ANY YEAR based on Connacht Championship. If that's what you think, then I can only say for myself that that's not true. If a Mayo Corner Forward, for e.g. had scored 1-3 against Galway from play, and 1-6 against Roscommon, and looked that good, I'd have no problem saying he's in the running at this stage.

That is the premise.

[The Worker]

jamie clarke