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No foul. Great tackle

MR2 would agree with you except he has to back whatever decision the referee gave

Should mention player poaching in the post also..

I think it already is - "Community Outreach"

The challenge leaves the ref to make a decision, unfortunately for Tomas he viewed it differently to most..

Like it's not even full contact, no intent either, borderline yellow, but you'd give a yellow for the optics

It's impossible to say 15 on 15 whether Glen would still win, it just means a difficult game becomes harder to win.

Does intent come into the referee's assessment of the seriousness of the offence.  The lifting of the elbow doesn't look good - I'm just wondering if the fact that it didn't make contact with the player make any difference?

St galls won an All Ireland Club, they are the best team in Antrims history.
You call yourself Antrim Realist, At the minute, Cargin are streets ahead of anything else in Antrim, what about a bit of respect for that, never mind what they do in Ulster. 

Thanks for making my point for me.  Regardless of how many club titles Cargin win, they won't be worthy of mention in the same breath as the St Galls Team until they win an Ulster title, never mind an All Ireland.  I have the utmost respect / envy for any team that wins a SFC - fair play to them but to suggest they are anywhere close to being the best team to come out of Antrim is a bit far-fetched.  Now relax yourself and enjoy the celebrations

No jealousy. I was just correcting Country Bumpkin - maybe he didn't know just.  There is no denying it. Cargin are the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA. And it doesn't look like anyone is going to compete with them in the next 7 or 8 years given the younger talent coming through and learning the tricks of the trade from the more experienced lads. CJ is a sight to behold in all honesty. Big Pat had a serious say in the result when introduced also, and hes still only a lad. Sean O'Neill, Gribben, Eunan Quinn etc all only lads. Good luck in Ulster 

To consider Cargin as "the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA" is laughable.  They've won 1 Ulster Championship game...

Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.

Their mother's club AFAIK

Will the people on here be a wee bit more comforted knowing this information and they not just some random blow ins?

Ultimately it doesn't make a big difference to me personally as I've no dog in the race but I do think the fact they've gone to a club that they have family connections too makes a big difference.

They fell out with Lavey and unfortunately that shit happens. Young lads who no doubt grew up with the game so obviously needed a new home. There will have been easier options too where they could probably go and lift a load of medals but they've gone to a club that they have a connection too and also not one who have that winning tradition at senior level (yet).

I'd say it makes it easier for club people too. They'll know the family and know there's a connection to the club and not just complete outsiders turning up.

So based on this, the apparent link with Cargin first is complete nonsense and they had a burning desire all along to play for St Brigids.  Whilst a family connection might go some way towards explaining the move to that particular club, I doubt it's of any comfort to those players who are no longer in the reckoning for a start as well as those moving up into the senior ranks in the next year or two.

Just a personal opinion but I prefer Dunsilly to Corrigan - better atmosphere, better view.  Something doesn't work at Corrigan the way they split the two terraces with the stand in the middle, plus the big black hole behind the bottom goal. That's no offence to the St John's volunteers who always do a great job.  Always liked Glenavy as well but it seems to have fallen away for whatever reason.

I know, having a stand for people to sit in and terracing for people to get a decent view of the game is a big backward step for the county  

Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

MR2, like i said, the fixtures in Antrim would be a nightmare to sort given the duality of alot of clubs. I just merely said that the playoffs should have been completed before the start of championship.

In terms of double headers, i was talking about a junior game before intermediate or an intermediate before senior. Would attract larger crowds and im sure most would see it as value for money.

Yeah for me those are two things that really could be done better. Leaving Ballymena hanging so long and Aghagallon now playing after extra time so soon is probably not the best way to do it tbh.

The root cause of the problem is putting another fixture into an already packed schedule.  Relegation playoffs are unnecessary - straight up, straight down works fine.  If every club knows the rules, there can't / shouldn't be any complaints when the axe falls.

Devastating for Portglenone but they were too clever for their own good today. Going down after frees, slow coming out after the breaks, generally trying to run the clock down and didn't go for the throat when the goal chance was there.  Never say never from Aghagallon.  Referee blew his whistle far too much today, mostly for the team in yellow.  Interesting final now.

Portglenone were naive late on - once the ball went into the square for the winning goal, it should have been snuffed out.  3 men around the man and he still got the ball laid off...

Not sure if you noticed but Casement closed in 2012 along with anywhere to sit down and watch a game in Antrim. Corrigan is there now with a stand (couldn't tell you what is going on with the politics of that and why games aren't there), but I standby what I said Dunsilly is a good venue to watch a game, very few games in Antrim need a bigger venue.

Thanks for the info about Casement - I wasn't aware.  Any venue without a seat isn't good enough imho - perhaps that will change in time.

Apart from a final between two well supported clubs there isn't much to be made in any other championship game by clubs. Dunsilly is now an impressive venue, don't blame Antrim for wanting to host games there now.

Impressive? Really?  Perhaps adding somewhere for people to actually sit down to watch a game might be a start.....

There was never an u21 league (or not in my day) so why does there need to be an u20 league?

Because of the ridiculous idea of moving minor to U17, the gap between those leaving minor and senior is massive.  Realistically, you will have a fair proportion who whilst they will eventually develop into strong senior footballers however they won't be ready for 3-4 years.  The answer is getting back to u18 minors but in the meantime, give those leaving minor plenty of meaningful football.  Otherwise, when clubs look for them 3-4 years later, they won't be there....

Shocking intervention. But sure as long as no-one on the teams disagreed  Whats the point of having rules if some lad with an ego can just overwrite them when he feels like it? They all signed up to it, if they need changed (and I'm not a fan of the rule), then there's a process to do that, the same process that set them. Unbelievable to see him striding in to call a halt 

100%.Especially since it was Antrim's own bye laws that created the problem in the first place!

This is a very dangerous precedent.  Imagine for example in a years time you're down the country somewhere with your club playing a minor championship game, and somebody from the county board just unilaterally moves the goalposts on the night - there'll be uproar - but what's to stop them now?Last night might have been seen as exceptional circumstances, but there will be other exceptional circumstances, and where do you draw the line?  The feel good factor from this decision will soon wear off and then we are left with a problem.

Someone dropping dead in the stands and having a game abandoned isn't in the rulebook.

Yet you'd not see many complain.

Exceptional circumstances are exceptional for a reason - and in those circumstances folks in charge have to try and make the best decisions they can in the moment. You cannot legislate for everything in the rulebook.

The difference is that provisions for someone dropping dead isn't in the rule book. Using frees, rightly or wrongly, is. What shouldn't happen is just because it doesn't look like a good spectacle, that those rules can be changed in the middle of a game. As others have said, a precedent has been set