Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Armagh Cúchulainns]

Sin bin is ten minutes regardless of delays like injuries during that period.

Forward mark rule kick must be played before the 45 and travel 20 meters and the player MUST make a hand in air sign.

He's 15 seconds to play ball, it's a clean catch Mark called,  should he not and tries to take a mark he'll be done for over carrying, players can tackle straight away for a forward mark should he want to play on. Oh and if a defender/keeper catches that forward Mark he can have it by making the sign for a mark, a raised hand.

Can't wait to get back to the refereeing this year! 
Although as a dual referee I can see myself turning down football games in favour of hurling

[theticklemister]

Are there any posters of images which show clearly these new rules? Anything sent out from HQ?

[delgany]

You cant have an advance mark from a kick out mark.

If the advanced mark is inside the large rectangle , you can tackle immediately.

Reading the changes , I believe there are too many permutations to interpret at club level!

[macdanger2]

Sin bin is ten minutes regardless of delays like injuries during that period.

Thanks MR2

Just to be clear, is this one senior man's opinion on how the 10 mins should be implemented, or did he get it from some official source?

That's the way it was reffed last year

[Milltown Row2]

Sin bin is ten minutes regardless of delays like injuries during that period.

Thanks MR2

Just to be clear, is this one senior man's opinion on how the 10 mins should be implemented, or did he get it from some official source?

Was discussed at length last night, I'd prefer to stop the watch but not allowed, so any injuries in that period you can use your discretion as to whether they are taking the piss and play on, has to be a head injury or a dangerous one.  Player can only come on after ten minutes then a break in play, can't come on beforehand or he'll receive a yellow, a black and yellow is a red!

[Milltown Row2]

Sin bin is ten minutes regardless of delays like injuries during that period.

Forward mark rule kick must be played before the 45 and travel 20 meters and the player MUST make a hand in air sign.

He's 15 seconds to play ball, it's a clean catch Mark called,  should he not and tries to take a mark he'll be done for over carrying, players can tackle straight away for a forward mark should he want to play on. Oh and if a defender/keeper catches that forward Mark he can have it by making the sign for a mark, a raised hand.

Yeah but my understanding is that, like the existing mark, the player is allowed 4 steps or the length of time to travel 4 steps before they can be tackled ( providing he is outside the large rectangle)
It is not clear what is allowed if he cleanly catches it outside the rectangle but arrives in the rectangle within 4 steps and has not had the opportunity to raise his hand before been met by the wall of defenders stationed just inside the large rectangle
or how a player will make a clean catch inside the rectangle and manage to hold on to the ball while been tackled by multiple players and simultaneously raise his hand to claim the mark. Then somehow clear the 13 yards in front of him within 15 secs so that he can take the kick.
... expect loads of moaning and plenty of refereeing inconsistencies for a while on this one.

He must raise his arm, if a defender is refusing him (pulling his arm) it's a free anyways then any player can take the free and from the ground should he wish. Catch clean n the box the 15 seconds starts from when he raises his hand, I'm sure if he's being manhandled it could be another free but he should be able to play ball

[Dabh]

Sin bin is ten minutes regardless of delays like injuries during that period.

Forward mark rule kick must be played before the 45 and travel 20 meters and the player MUST make a hand in air sign.

He's 15 seconds to play ball, it's a clean catch Mark called,  should he not and tries to take a mark he'll be done for over carrying, players can tackle straight away for a forward mark should he want to play on. Oh and if a defender/keeper catches that forward Mark he can have it by making the sign for a mark, a raised hand.

Yeah but my understanding is that, like the existing mark, the player is allowed 4 steps or the length of time to travel 4 steps before they can be tackled ( providing he is outside the large rectangle)
It is not clear what is allowed if he cleanly catches it outside the rectangle but arrives in the rectangle within 4 steps and has not had the opportunity to raise his hand before been met by the wall of defenders stationed just inside the large rectangle
or how a player will make a clean catch inside the rectangle and manage to hold on to the ball while been tackled by multiple players and simultaneously raise his hand to claim the mark. Then somehow clear the 13 yards in front of him within 15 secs so that he can take the kick.
... expect loads of moaning and plenty of refereeing inconsistencies for a while on this one.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/referees-briefed-on-clarifications-to-advanced-mark-and-sin-bin-rule-976864.html

'large rectangle exception' is apparently now gone.... 

[Milltown Row2]

Sin bin is ten minutes regardless of delays like injuries during that period.

Forward mark rule kick must be played before the 45 and travel 20 meters and the player MUST make a hand in air sign.

He's 15 seconds to play ball, it's a clean catch Mark called,  should he not and tries to take a mark he'll be done for over carrying, players can tackle straight away for a forward mark should he want to play on. Oh and if a defender/keeper catches that forward Mark he can have it by making the sign for a mark, a raised hand.

Yeah but my understanding is that, like the existing mark, the player is allowed 4 steps or the length of time to travel 4 steps before they can be tackled ( providing he is outside the large rectangle)
It is not clear what is allowed if he cleanly catches it outside the rectangle but arrives in the rectangle within 4 steps and has not had the opportunity to raise his hand before been met by the wall of defenders stationed just inside the large rectangle
or how a player will make a clean catch inside the rectangle and manage to hold on to the ball while been tackled by multiple players and simultaneously raise his hand to claim the mark. Then somehow clear the 13 yards in front of him within 15 secs so that he can take the kick.
... expect loads of moaning and plenty of refereeing inconsistencies for a while on this one.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/referees-briefed-on-clarifications-to-advanced-mark-and-sin-bin-rule-976864.html

'large rectangle exception' is apparently now gone....

Believe it or not, the trainers who gave us the rules info on Monday got an email on the way up to the hotel to say they had a new update on the rules

[theticklemister]

Who the f**k has seen these rules released today. Oh living Jesus !!

[theticklemister]

10 minute sin binning does not include stoppages what the f**k

[twohands!!!]

10 minute sin binning does not include stoppages what the f**k

This was always the proposal.

Can't help but think it came from some of the same folk who binned the hooter system and gave the cost of having a clock as one of their reasons for doing so.

When you look at the makeup of the Standing Rules Committee, it's no wonder what a dog's dinner they have made of these new rules.

I'm half convinced that some of the hurling folk on the committee are doing all they can to muck up Gaelic football as much as possible.

In a way that's almost a kinder interpretation than the alternative that they did not actually think about how this rules would actually work on a pitch.

[macdanger2]

10 minute sin binning does not include stoppages what the f**k

Where are you getting that from? In the Irish Times link above, it says:

"The time period in the sin bin shall be of 10 minutes duration irrespective of delays"

Isn't that the same as it was last year for the league?

[theticklemister]

10 minute sin binning does not include stoppages what the f**k

Where are you getting that from? In the Irish Times link above, it says:

"The time period in the sin bin shall be of 10 minutes duration irrespective of delays"

Isn't that the same as it was last year for the league?

Yeah irrespective of delays. So if a guy is sinbinned in the 17th minute and there is an injury for 5 minutes on the 22nd minute, he is then free to wonder on in the 27th minute and there has only been 5 minutes of actual play

[magpie seanie]

What's the alternative though? One that will work in every game up and down the country? 4 or 5 watches for each ref?

[macdanger2]

10 minute sin binning does not include stoppages what the f**k

Where are you getting that from? In the Irish Times link above, it says:

"The time period in the sin bin shall be of 10 minutes duration irrespective of delays"

Isn't that the same as it was last year for the league?

Yeah irrespective of delays. So if a guy is sinbinned in the 17th minute and there is an injury for 5 minutes on the 22nd minute, he is then free to wonder on in the 27th minute and there has only been 5 minutes of actual play

Sorry, I thought you were saying the opposite.

Anything else would be difficult to implement but it definitely lends itself to play acting. How does women's football work it? I guess they have the clock, does that stop for injuries?