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I dont think Mickey Harte will be too upset that Derry are out of the Ulster. They have the medals from the last 2 years in their pockets. Its all about SAM for them now. They get a nice 4 week break to get themselves ready. I would not be writing them off at all.

Will they definitely be playing in 4 weeks or could it be 5?

I believe they will be in Pot 3 so first game will be away to the Provincial winners in their group.
if its the Connacht or Munster winner then its the 18th-19th May ( so 4 weeks)
otherwise 25 May (so 5 weeks)

2nd Game on 1st or 2nd June
3rd Game on 15th or 16th June

Just saying on sale soon on ticketmaster. Anyone any idea of price?

€30 adult
€25 student / OAP / Hill
€5 wains

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€5 discount on Adult & Student/OAP match tickets for the upcoming Allianz League Finals using your GAA Ticket Discount Code from Foireann (registered GAA Club Members)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68146555

According to Opta, of the 17 outfield players to have completed more than 500 minutes for United this season, Rashford's distance covered per 90mins is joint lowest - with Harry Maguire - on 9.7km.

..that stat alone would drive anynody to the drink

[Just watch this weekend and let's see how many times players from other counties are sent off for this infraction.]

I've read this a few times but I'd have thought if this was the case TV cameras would have caught it and it'd have been replayed but I didn't see it?

There was a short replay of the afters before he was given the red, looked like a bit of a schmozzle between Conn and a couple of players, but wasn't really conclusive either. Would've need to see it a few times to make out what actually happened.

https://www.tg4.ie/en/player/categories/sport-tv-player/play/?pid=6345776284112&title=T%C3%ADr%20Eoghain%20v%20Ros%20Com%C3%A1in&series=GAA%20Beo&genre=Sport&pcode=682043

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Handbags. Nothing more, but the linesman is there with a good view as well, have to think whatever he said had an impact on the red card.

What is strange is the first player who jumped in to push conn should have been given a red for becoming the 3 man. At the end there were 3 men pushing conn

This is what Tyrone player got the line for against Armagh. The GAA and referees aren't even trying to hide it anymore. When Dublin and Kerry kicked the shite out of each other last year it was held up as men going toe to toe with no quarter given. But If Tyrone is involved it is disgraceful unsavoury scenes that have no place in our game.

Kilpatrick's red card - An Lár Choiste Cheannais na gComortaisí took Disciplinary Action against Conn Mac Giolla Phádraig, alleging a breach of Riail 7.2 (b), Category III, T.O. 2023, that is to say, "Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent".

Just watch this weekend and let's see how many times players from other counties are sent off for this infraction.

f**king scandalous.

https://www.rte.ie/player/series/saturday-gaa-live/10001784-00-0000?epguid=IH10003532-24-0001
Go to 43.24 ( or 16.52 on Game Clock) if you can stomach the RTE player

same type of tackle IMO .. thou tackler had more time to 'line' it up .

Never would consider either a red or even worthy of a yellow on there own

Does the impact of a foul influence a referee?
I mean if someone is badly injured does it influence the ref to give a card?

When Rogers got a punch into the stomach near the end, would he have got a free if he went down holding his stomach which could convince the ref that he was indeed hit?

Rodgers (if memory serves me right) was going down as the hand was going in, there was the initial view where it look like he took a punch and the other, out of sheer exhaustion fumbled the ball with an attempted pass. Can't remember what Joe's positioning was at the time

watch it again ..
https://twitter.com/i/status/1680617372703391744
12 secs

Rogers had just taken a solo, was turning back, no doubt looking to give a pass, had the ball protected in his chest with both hands when O'Sheas hand came in under the hands and ball and looks to have caught him in the stomach/midriff.  Thats a foul.

& 33 secs will show it from the other side and you can see where Joe was positioned and what he saw.  Could not have been in a better place.

Did Joe play a bitta football in Cavan?
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Joe maybe played a bitta something else round Rathmore at some stage..  'GAA LookaLikes'

[One in four]

GAA people are still people and they will be some bad ones in there - it's the same in any walk of life. It's the same in any organisation- if the organisation know nothing about someone's wrongdoings it is not the organisation's fault at all. You have a problem if the organisation knew about an individual and let them carry on regardless.

Statistically I would say it would be low enough so it would be a stretch to say countless mind you...

If there were 25,000 Domestic Violence cases last year say there are 50,000 perpetrators overall
The population is 5 million. Perpetrators are all men, say
50,000/2500000= 2%
That's one in 50.

according to Womens Aid
https://www.womensaid.ie/about/policy/natintstats.html

One in four women in Ireland who have been in a relationship have been abused by a current or former partner.

14% of women in Ireland have experienced physical violence by a partner (current or former) since age 15
6% of Irish women have experienced sexual violence
31% of women have experienced psychological violence by a current or former partner since age 15

Frightening stats

[Is touching the keeper in the square at all not a foul?]

Is touching the keeper in the square at all not a foul?

Campbell when you look at it was very clever to get that foul but either team would have been at that.

You can tackle the ball but can't shoulder.. Free out if shouldered

From rule book
When he is within the small rectangle, the goalkeeper may not be charged but he may be challenged for possession of the ball, and his puck, kick or pass may be blocked. Incidental contact with the goalkeeper while playing the ball is permitted.

From me
I've no idea what a charge is (if is not a shoulder) and i'd guess noone does

A charge is the GAA rule-book term for a shoulder.

It's defined in the rule book.

didn't realise that
Provided he has at least one foot on the ground, a player may make a shoulder-to shoulder charge on an
opponent
(a) who is in possession of the ball, or
(b) In Hurling - who is playing the ball; In Football - who is playing the ball other than when kicking it, or
(c) both players are moving in the direction of the ball to play it.

Definate free out so -  Turbitt hit him a shoulder within the small rectangle

[Is touching the keeper in the square at all not a foul?]

Is touching the keeper in the square at all not a foul?

Campbell when you look at it was very clever to get that foul but either team would have been at that.

You can tackle the ball but can't shoulder.. Free out if shouldered

From rule book
When he is within the small rectangle, the goalkeeper may not be charged but he may be challenged for possession of the ball, and his puck, kick or pass may be blocked. Incidental contact with the goalkeeper while playing the ball is permitted.

From me
I've no idea what a charge is (if is not a shoulder) and i'd guess noone does

["The current drink-driving limit is a BAC of 50mg. This means 50 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood. For professional, learner and novice drivers the limit is a BAC of 20mg. Most people will have a BAC of 20 to 50mg after 1 standard drink."]

"The current drink-driving limit is a BAC of 50mg. This means 50 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood. For professional, learner and novice drivers the limit is a BAC of 20mg. Most people will have a BAC of 20 to 50mg after 1 standard drink."

From the HSE website.  No one should be driving after 6 alcoholic drinks.

according to Drinkaware.ie the limits for a blood test and a urine test are slightly different
it 67 milligrammes of alcohol per 100ml of urine  

This was urine sample of 414mg of alcohol per 100ml .. so a rough calculation is just over 3 pints would get you there .. not quite 'an enormous amount of alcohol' as the article states.. but i'm sure time & body size etc all affect this.

No one should be driving after half a pint if they want to stay within the law

https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/former-kerry-footballer-banned-from-driving-for-three-years-after-drink-driving-conviction-affirmed-330269

'issue with the breathalyser apparatus at the station'
'requested to make a call to a retired Garda Sergeant'

Does Derry seniors need to be relying on teenagers to win championship games? I'm sure Derry's objective is to reach another senior All Ireland semi final and that can be done without winning Ulster this year more so than last year.  U20 final tonight is knock out and should Derry win it's a decent opportunity to win All Ireland, not allowing your better players play lessen that opportunity.

In 2018 Kerry choose to play David Clifford with the seniors instead of the U20s. Had he played for the U20s I'd have no doubt they would have won that All Ireland, Kerry seniors made their exit at the last eight stage a decision that was worth doing?

I'm fairly sure that Sean O'Shea would also have been the age for that 2018 Kerry U20 team  but played for seniors instead. 
Clifford was also u20 in 2019 ( he never played a single game for the Kerry U20s)
Mark O'Connor  was also kept with the seniors in 2017, but never played a minute.

Jack O'Connor was manager in 2018 and there was a fair bit of grumbling about it after Kidare beat them by 2.

[Novice]

Someone needs to do a mini series or documentary on the Kerry club football structure at this stage!! 

One of the old threads from 2019 had plenty good explanation on it in fairness.

The main by products of the whole thing that stand out to me are
1.Every club player in the county, regardless of level, gets a chance to play in County Senior championship and
2.Average Kerry club player gets a guaranteed 20 games a year due to the structure. County league (taken seriously), County club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Premier Junior, Junior, Novice ), County Senior championship, Divisional leagues (North Kerry league, south Kerry league etc), Divisional championships - played at end of year.

If anyone wants to ask anything about it work away and I'll do my best though.

All I want to ask is how the feck ye get the time lol. Better than the system here though where theres only 14 league games and then straight knockout championship. Lot of training for little amount of games. Although the leagues are very competitive and taken seriously for the most part, as they are linked to following years championship. only 8 teams in the division means less dead rubbers towards the end.

you forgot the Novice Championship ( easy done in fairness)

No I didn't, you just didn't do your research!

Novice was renamed 2/3 years ago to Junior. Grades are as I posted.

You sure?
https://www.kerrygaa.ie/kilgarvan-are-novice-champions/

[Novice]

Someone needs to do a mini series or documentary on the Kerry club football structure at this stage!! 

One of the old threads from 2019 had plenty good explanation on it in fairness.

The main by products of the whole thing that stand out to me are
1.Every club player in the county, regardless of level, gets a chance to play in County Senior championship and
2.Average Kerry club player gets a guaranteed 20 games a year due to the structure. County league (taken seriously), County club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Premier Junior, Junior, Novice ), County Senior championship, Divisional leagues (North Kerry league, south Kerry league etc), Divisional championships - played at end of year.

If anyone wants to ask anything about it work away and I'll do my best though.

All I want to ask is how the feck ye get the time lol. Better than the system here though where theres only 14 league games and then straight knockout championship. Lot of training for little amount of games. Although the leagues are very competitive and taken seriously for the most part, as they are linked to following years championship. only 8 teams in the division means less dead rubbers towards the end.

you forgot the Novice Championship ( easy done in fairness)

Fun Fact for the day re. Kerry County Championship : (I'm fairly sure  this is correct)

The Kilgarvan Club are historically part of the 'Kenmare District' amalgamation that historically played in the county championship with Kenmare Shamrocks, Templenoe & Tuosist. 

However as both clubs, Kenmare Shamrocks & Templenoe are currently in the county championship ,  the much weakened Kenmare District team withdrew from the county championship and so the 2 clubs Kilgarvan & Tuosist are in with the East Kerry Team.

So in theory ... if Kenmare Shamrocks or Templenoe are to be relegated from county championship next year (to cause Kenmare District to reenter) and Kilgarvan to be promoted over the next 2 years from Junior to Intermediate to senior (highly unlikely i realise -Templenoe did it over 5 years) .. a player from Kilgarvan could play for 3 different teams in the Kerry County Championship in 3 years and never move club
Year 1 East Kerry
Year 2 Kenmare District
Year 3 Kilgarvan