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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 08:25:05 AM »
Andy Ward is reported as advocating professionalism in the G.A.A. He reckons that if players are training etc. like professionals at the top end of the sport,they should be paid like professionals. He could have a point.
Yes because he's thinking about what he can get out of it ffs. Rugby players with an Ulster contract NEVER play for their clubs, that's good isn't....wouldn't be much point putting men on the gate to lift money for a Dunloy.L'geil,C'dall,St.Galls( ;)) game.
It costs me hundreds of pounds/ year to coach and play a wee bit in our club in fact in a few of the recent years alot more and i wouldn't begrudge a penny of it.
So yous are after an army of paid administrators and coaching staff, 100 salaried hurlers and footballers (with monthly photo shoots in the Ulster Tatler), a few extra beer tents and gourmet burger vans at Casement, increased ticket prices...................Aye that would be great.........................ANTRIM ANTRIM ANTRIM ANTRIM :o ::)

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 12:44:48 PM »
Aye but there are still people coining it. Are some managers paid,and don't give me the " expenses" story.This question can never get a straight, honest no nonsense answer. ARE SOME MANAGERS BEING PAID BOTH AT CLUB AND COUNTY LEVEL ?......... an honest answer from some of "our holier than thou" posters,who seem to know everything.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2012, 12:51:33 PM »
Aye but there are still people coining it. Are some managers paid,and don't give me the " expenses" story.This question can never get a straight, honest no nonsense answer. ARE SOME MANAGERS BEING PAID BOTH AT CLUB AND COUNTY LEVEL ?......... an honest answer from some of "our holier than thou" posters,who seem to know everything.

Cant believe you used 'aye but' in first line!! .How much was loughgiels managers getting ?
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2012, 01:31:23 PM »
And while we're at it why are no receipt admission tickets issued at GAA games.

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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2012, 02:13:57 PM »
And while we're at it why are no receipt admission tickets issued at GAA games.
Fair enough Whack none of us say its right as it stands but there are few round loughgiel trumpeting the assistance of a certain benefactor in their recent good fortune nor are there many of us who would be slating said person as we understand his motives, but what you are proposing is a whole different thing and I believe would spell the end for all but the top clubs.
think you need to start doing some work at the grass roots to see what some people actually do only for the love of it.

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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2012, 05:09:01 PM »
Aye but there are still people coining it. Are some managers paid,and don't give me the " expenses" story.This question can never get a straight, honest no nonsense answer. ARE SOME MANAGERS BEING PAID BOTH AT CLUB AND COUNTY LEVEL ?......... an honest answer from some of "our holier than thou" posters,who seem to know everything.

Cant believe you used 'aye but' in first line!! .How much was loughgiels managers getting ?

BUMP!!
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2012, 06:20:47 PM »
I'm proposing nothing, just soliciting opinion on the issue.And by the way........."bump"as stated by that other fiendishly subtle poster who's name escapes me.

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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2012, 06:39:39 PM »
I was only asking a question which you haven't answered, it's your thread by the way
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 06:43:44 PM »
Buswhacker your post about underused club grounds intrigues me.

What makes you think that some club grounds are being underused?

Also if the club owns the ground why should the GAA get money from it? How would the logistics of that work??

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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2012, 06:45:40 PM »
I know it's my thread,just asking opinions.Loughgiel's manager doesn't get paid, despite his unprecedented success in Antrim and Ireland,but some do, from what I hear.

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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2012, 06:47:52 PM »
A very interesting debate regarding professionalism in the GAA. How does the principal sit with the GAA 'ethos' and the thousands of volunteers we have. Just where would the revenue be generated given that we are a 'unique' sport to a limited number of people, even in our own country. Mind you some would say there is already professionalism in our organisation. Some 'managers', coaches, trainers being brought in and getting paid through what is called 'expenses'.

Bushwhacker you guys must have felt the impact of some of this as a result of your recent All Ireland campaign, trips away, training/injury expenses etc. What would be a ball park figure of your outlay? 

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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2012, 06:51:37 PM »
Jim travels down there for free? A nd the trainer? He gets nowt?

Interesting, we've been recently to Croke a few times, with the hurling and football and it has cost us a clean fortune. If we
 were lucky enough to get back then we'd need 30 grand. Thats about a ball park figure
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2012, 07:02:17 PM »
Shamamateurism or hypocrisy, call it what you will,nobody wants to be the one to face it square on. Sweep it below the carpet in our time honoured fashion.

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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2012, 07:26:26 PM »
I know it's my thread,just asking opinions.Loughgiel's manager doesn't get paid, despite his unprecedented success in Antrim and Ireland,but some do, from what I hear.
But your tone advocates professionalism, as i see it the paid manager/coach situation is at an all time low which is suits most of us just fine and has forced the mercenaries back to their lairs for the time being and might help clubs realise they should develop talent from within instead of throwing money up the road.
Maybe your just conceding no Nelson, no Tom Moore??

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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2012, 07:48:01 PM »
Milltown-Interesting, we've been recently to Croke a few times, with the hurling and football and it has cost us a clean fortune. If we
 were lucky enough to get back then we'd need 30 grand. Thats about a ball park figure.

I am not surprised at the figure. And to the majority of clubs in the GAA that's massive.

Bushwhacker- Your post, your topic. So we can develop the debate. Just a ball park figure of what it cost you?