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Title: Flybe
Post by: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: BennyCake on January 13, 2020, 06:31:15 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?

Plan B - phone Michael O'Leary
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: trailer on January 13, 2020, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?

Dublin
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: johnnycool on January 14, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 13, 2020, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?

Dublin

Easyjet out of the not so easy Aldergrove.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: TabClear on January 14, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 13, 2020, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?

Dublin

Might work for some people but its not a great solution for most regular business users. Flybe have their issues in terms of service and pricing at times but they offer a direct route to destination not served from Aldergrove.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Franko on January 14, 2020, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 13, 2020, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?

Dublin

Easyjet out of the not so easy Aldergrove.

With their DUP connections it pains me to say this, but they seem to have got their act together recently.  Been through it weekly since beginning of December and max wait at security has been about 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on January 14, 2020, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?

Of course there is...

Plan B = Plan Bridge!

(https://www.irishnews.com/picturesarchive/irishnews/irishnews/2019/12/15/200115412-67a9b89f-6692-481b-a356-74ccdca35423.jpg)

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2019/12/16/news/sammy-wilson-urges-boris-johnson-to-build-bridge-to-scotland-to-win-back-unionism-s-trust--1791614/
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on January 14, 2020, 06:28:07 PM
Swords is 100 minutes from belfast, fly to anywhere you want, usually for next to nothing as well

the airports in the north are a joke
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2020, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: Franko on January 14, 2020, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 13, 2020, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?

Dublin

Easyjet out of the not so easy Aldergrove.

With their DUP connections it pains me to say this, but they seem to have got their act together recently.  Been through it weekly since beginning of December and max wait at security has been about 10 minutes.
Security is much better. Still a kip though, so straight through is the only option.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: trailer on January 15, 2020, 10:35:44 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2020, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: Franko on January 14, 2020, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 13, 2020, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?

Dublin

Easyjet out of the not so easy Aldergrove.

With their DUP connections it pains me to say this, but they seem to have got their act together recently.  Been through it weekly since beginning of December and max wait at security has been about 10 minutes.
Security is much better. Still a kip though, so straight through is the only option.

Ahhy it's still a dump but security is much better and friendlier.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Sportacus on March 04, 2020, 08:11:20 PM
Flybe in big trouble now.  Would be severe for City Airport and big cost and hassle for many travellers and the business community.  Not good, in the short run anyway.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: square_ball on March 04, 2020, 09:45:47 PM
That's a disaster for the city airport. I seen on twitter something like 76% of flights from the city airport are with Flybe.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: APM on March 04, 2020, 10:10:22 PM
Too strategically important to fail you would have to think for a regionally balanced economy in the UK.  This could be the real border in the Irish Sea with the City Airport so dependent.

On the other hand, would it be a good buy for Ryanair?
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: screenexile on March 04, 2020, 10:39:23 PM
Had Flybe booked for flights in July but changed them to EasyJet there a couple of hours ago.

It's a pain in the hole all well and good saying Dublin is 100 minutes from Belfast but what if you live 1-2 hours away from Belfast??

Bottom line is the business wasn't viable Belfast City will be offering some keen rates to other Airlines you would think to keep them open.

The amount they charge for car parking should keep them afloat for the time being anyway!!!
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 05, 2020, 01:25:02 PM
Has anyone had any luck doing this?

Quote

passengers who had bought a ticket using a credit or debit card may be able to get their money back.

They should contact their card provider and seek a chargeback to their account, if it is possible at this point.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Hound on March 05, 2020, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 05, 2020, 01:25:02 PM
Has anyone had any luck doing this?

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passengers who had bought a ticket using a credit or debit card may be able to get their money back.

They should contact their card provider and seek a chargeback to their account, if it is possible at this point.

On my list for things to do tomorrow!
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: delgany on March 05, 2020, 07:19:15 PM
You need to put your charge back claim in within 14 days of contacting your bank .
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Hound on March 05, 2020, 09:28:31 PM
Remembered this evening that it was Revolut I used to pay for my flybe flights. So I've completed their online chargeback request. Now to await their response!
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: lurganblue on March 06, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
This is some hit for Belfast City Airport alright.  I wonder will another airline step in to fill the void?  a city the size of Belfast operating two airports still seems silly though.  One decent one would do...
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2020, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 06, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
This is some hit for Belfast City Airport alright.  I wonder will another airline step in to fill the void?  a city the size of Belfast operating two airports still seems silly though.  One decent one would do...

Used Flybe for 7 months every Monday to Manchester and home again on the Friday, was a brilliant service with no delays of any note to think off, staff were brilliant and the flights that I took those days were always filled. All those commuters will be hugely put out by this I'd imagine.

I see the need though to keep a City airport but should be mainly for UK destinations only
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: delgany on March 06, 2020, 08:08:31 PM
The problem I saw with flybe was that it had services to some obsecure places in the UK. The belfast city was one of the most profitable hubs. 1000s of people flying out / commuting to UK weekly .
Logan air taking in 16 routes now
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: RedHand88 on March 07, 2020, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 06, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
This is some hit for Belfast City Airport alright.  I wonder will another airline step in to fill the void?  a city the size of Belfast operating two airports still seems silly though.  One decent one would do...

The problem is that the decent one will be the one to close and that hole 20mile from Belfast with no rail links will now be Belfasts only airport.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: seafoid on March 07, 2020, 03:55:01 PM
FlyBE only had 3 Public Service Obligations compared to 22 for Air France. These compensate airlines for routes that are socially important but unprofitable.

A Virgin consortium.bought the airline for £2 in 2018 and mortgaged everything.

Very UK capitalism to let it collapse.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: delgany on March 07, 2020, 06:16:47 PM
Easyjet flights from Edinburgh to Belfast overbooked and sold out . One flight sitting at £149 for tomorrow. Ryanair to Dublin €229!
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: playwiththewind1st on March 07, 2020, 06:54:29 PM
Quote from: Franko on January 14, 2020, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 13, 2020, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 13, 2020, 06:29:13 PM
Love them or loathe them, the implications are pretty severe if Flybe disappear.  2 out of 3 flights out of Belfast City and mostly people doing business.  Is there a Plan B?

Dublin

Easyjet out of the not so easy Aldergrove.

With their DUP connections it pains me to say this, but they seem to have got their act together recently.  Been through it weekly since beginning of December and max wait at security has been about 10 minutes.

Was through right the way through Aldergrove in around 5 minutes flat this morning, although it was at 6 am! Stayed in the Maldron overnight for first time, which made the very early start slightly easier.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2020, 01:05:33 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/swissport-planning-to-axe-95-jobs-at-belfast-city-airport-due-to-flybe-collapse-1.4200280
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 07:13:39 PM
BA looks like it could go under, along with the rest
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: seafoid on March 14, 2020, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 07:13:39 PM
BA looks like it could go under, along with the rest
Where can you bet on it?
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 14, 2020, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 14, 2020, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 07:13:39 PM
BA looks like it could go under, along with the rest
Where can you bet on it?

Buy puts.
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2020, 08:07:53 PM
Dublin airport closed?
Title: Re: Flybe
Post by: Hound on May 11, 2020, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on March 05, 2020, 09:28:31 PM
Remembered this evening that it was Revolut I used to pay for my flybe flights. So I've completed their online chargeback request. Now to await their response!

Money returned by Revolut today. Took just over 8 weeks, but at least it worked!

There was a bit of pain at the start when they repeatedly looked for "proof I didn't receive the goods or services I purchased" but eventually I was able to convince them that Flybe was dead, and then took another 7 weeks to process.