Net Neutrality

Started by mrdeeds, December 14, 2017, 07:50:39 PM

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HiMucker

I find it incredible how anyone who uses the internet could be against net neutrality other than if they had shares in an ISPS

imtommygunn

Isps and governments.

Even netflix are against it but i think that is because comcast stiffed them so they can see what is coming.

MoChara

Ajit Pai has a head on him you'd just love to thump, and these photo shoot things he does doesn't help him.

Both him and Brendan Carr worked directly for the big 3 in the past regarding regulation and law. america is really impressive just when you think everything is privatized they manage to find something else

Avondhu star

Quote from: whitey on December 14, 2017, 10:03:46 PM
I listened to a debate last week and there was pros and cons to each side of the argument

What! Two sides to an argument! 
This is getting murkier. Any Mossad  involvement I wonder
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

rosnarun

the suspected cons would be that the current internet setup in not viable long term and the 'wrong' people are making billions out of it.
look at facebook it no more than Bebo + but does feck all for its cash it does not provide any of the facilities for the Internet but  gets most of the cash same with google that rifles though other people stuff providing little or no content itself but it get to decide what you View . Bing is an even worse example of this  , and neither of these companies even invented the search engine but again make away with most of the cash .
But yet we expect ISP to provide us with free service
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

J70

Quote from: rosnarun on December 15, 2017, 10:48:24 AM
the suspected cons would be that the current internet setup in not viable long term and the 'wrong' people are making billions out of it.
look at facebook it no more than Bebo + but does feck all for its cash it does not provide any of the facilities for the Internet but  gets most of the cash same with google that rifles though other people stuff providing little or no content itself but it get to decide what you View . Bing is an even worse example of this  , and neither of these companies even invented the search engine but again make away with most of the cash .
But yet we expect ISP to provide us with free service

You get free service??

rosnarun

for internet access yes. for a telephone line no
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

Syferus

Internet search before Google doesn't bear thinking about. Like trying to travel to the US without planes or ships.

thebigfella

Quote from: rosnarun on December 15, 2017, 10:48:24 AM
the suspected cons would be that the current internet setup in not viable long term and the 'wrong' people are making billions out of it.
look at facebook it no more than Bebo + but does feck all for its cash it does not provide any of the facilities for the Internet but  gets most of the cash same with google that rifles though other people stuff providing little or no content itself but it get to decide what you View . Bing is an even worse example of this  , and neither of these companies even invented the search engine but again make away with most of the cash .
But yet we expect ISP to provide us with free service

What a load of sh1te.  ::)  Do you actually know what net neutrality is? You also don't seem to understand the business models of the company products you mentioned.



J70

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Quote from: rosnarun on December 15, 2017, 01:04:43 PM
for internet access yes. for a telephone line no

It's well for some.

I pay $75/month for my home high speed connection and another fistful for my mobile phone data. Obviously more spending on top of that for particular subscription services such as Netflix, HBO, Sling etc.

The costs may increase now as charges are passed down by various online outfits to facilitate access to higher speed lanes.

J70

Quote from: Syferus on December 15, 2017, 01:15:14 PM
Internet search before Google doesn't bear thinking about. Like trying to travel to the US without planes or ships.

Indeed. Google won because it was better than Alta Vista and Infoseek and the rest which preceded them back in the day. No one held a gun to anyone's head and made them use it.

screenexile

Quote from: J70 on December 15, 2017, 01:48:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 15, 2017, 01:15:14 PM
Internet search before Google doesn't bear thinking about. Like trying to travel to the US without planes or ships.

Indeed. Google won because it was better than Alta Vista and Infoseek and the rest which preceded them back in the day. No one held a gun to anyone's head and made them use it.

Askjeeves was and is still the best!

rosnarun

Quote from: thebigfella on December 15, 2017, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 15, 2017, 10:48:24 AM
the suspected cons would be that the current internet setup in not viable long term and the 'wrong' people are making billions out of it.
look at facebook it no more than Bebo + but does feck all for its cash it does not provide any of the facilities for the Internet but  gets most of the cash same with google that rifles though other people stuff providing little or no content itself but it get to decide what you View . Bing is an even worse example of this  , and neither of these companies even invented the search engine but again make away with most of the cash .
But yet we expect ISP to provide us with free service

What a load of sh1te.  ::)  Do you actually know what net neutrality is? You also don't seem to understand the business models of the company products you mentioned.


yes im know what net neutraity is and I also know that the companies I mentioned are making extortionate profits and behave like monopolies  and net neutral reinforces that  while the companies they stole their model from go broke by limiting who can charge for what ar what stage of the process.
the internet as it now stand is not viable longterm. when content providers realize they are being taken for a ride .
Simple example I was paying sky 95 euro a month but now access the same programmes  free over the net
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

Muck Savage

Quote from: J70 on December 15, 2017, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 15, 2017, 01:04:43 PM
for internet access yes. for a telephone line no

It's well for some.

I pay $75/month for my home high speed connection and another fistful for my mobile phone data. Obviously more spending on top of that for particular subscription services such as Netflix, HBO, Sling etc.

The costs may increase now as charges are passed down by various online outfits to facilitate access to higher speed lanes.

Still using Dial-up in Mayo.

thebigfella

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Quote from: rosnarun on December 15, 2017, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on December 15, 2017, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 15, 2017, 10:48:24 AM
the suspected cons would be that the current internet setup in not viable long term and the 'wrong' people are making billions out of it.
look at facebook it no more than Bebo + but does feck all for its cash it does not provide any of the facilities for the Internet but  gets most of the cash same with google that rifles though other people stuff providing little or no content itself but it get to decide what you View . Bing is an even worse example of this  , and neither of these companies even invented the search engine but again make away with most of the cash .
But yet we expect ISP to provide us with free service

What a load of sh1te.  ::)  Do you actually know what net neutrality is? You also don't seem to understand the business models of the company products you mentioned.


yes im know what net neutraity is and I also know that the companies I mentioned are making extortionate profits and behave like monopolies  and net neutral reinforces that  while the companies they stole their model from go broke by limiting who can charge for what ar what stage of the process.
the internet as it now stand is not viable longterm. when content providers realize they are being taken for a ride .
Simple example I was paying sky 95 euro a month but now access the same programmes  free over the net

What are you on about. Google offered a superior product and people made a conscious decision to use it over other search engines. People are free to choose other search engines if they like. There is no IP in the business models you believe they stole. The IP is in the "propriety algorithms" they developed. Technology is full of companies who never came up with the original ideas but just implement them better. Apple for example haven't come up with an original or innovative idea in decades...

While I would some issues with Google/Facebook's business practices; I think you need to understand what a monopoly is.