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Re: Man Utd Thread:
« Reply #41430 on: May 17, 2017, 01:20:39 AM »
Looking forward to what "liverpool fan" Stallion has to say about that Magpie!

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« Reply #41431 on: May 17, 2017, 06:14:53 AM »
I don't have much to say about it. I don't have strong feelings regarding who Utd's manager is. I wouldn't want Mourinho managing Liverpool though and I can understand why some Utd fans aren't fans of his.

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« Reply #41432 on: May 17, 2017, 08:39:46 AM »
More embarrassing drivel from Mourinho in his latest press conference. I got lambasted here for saying he was out of his depth and incapable of doing the job but time is proving me right. Never should have been let near the place. I hope United win the Europa of course but this guy needs to be sacked. He has no business at United.
And bring in who?  Mourinho will deliver

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« Reply #41433 on: May 17, 2017, 09:02:26 AM »
More embarrassing drivel from Mourinho in his latest press conference. I got lambasted here for saying he was out of his depth and incapable of doing the job but time is proving me right. Never should have been let near the place. I hope United win the Europa of course but this guy needs to be sacked. He has no business at United.
And bring in who?  Mourinho will deliver

I don't believe he will "deliver" and certainly if he does win a premier league or even more unlikely, a champions league, it will be via negativity, ignorance and classlessness.

Who to bring in? A young, energetic manager who will install belief and confidence in the players to perform to the levels we expect of Manchester United. Let them not be afraid to miss a chance or make a mistake. Let them know the manager has their back (as opposed to wondering are you this weeks target via the media). And someone who will act with a bit of class and not embarrass themselves themselves and the club when they open their mouth. The constant moaning about fixture congestion since early January is drivel. This is Manchester United for Gods sake. Even without the Champions League they're announcing astronomical record income.

I genuinely believe Mourinho was never a fit for United but I also suspect he is a completely busted flush. His best days are definitely behind him. Ferguson was unique in that he was a motivator and eventually accepted his tactical know how was gone (and got assistance with that).

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« Reply #41434 on: May 17, 2017, 09:50:43 AM »
But you don't name anyone. Mourinho is probably the most successful manager available. He has a proven track record if we are going to do what you suggest Giggs should've been given the job.

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« Reply #41435 on: May 17, 2017, 09:54:41 AM »
He played more adventurous football but Ferguson was more petty, ignorant and downright pathetic than Mourinho.

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« Reply #41436 on: May 17, 2017, 09:57:57 AM »
But you don't name anyone. Mourinho is probably the most successful manager available. He has a proven track record if we are going to do what you suggest Giggs should've been given the job.

He suggested a young, energetic manager. Giggs is neither energetic nor a manager. He managed for a wet week when Moyes was sacked.
There are a number of candidates out there that fit that bill - Thomas Tuchel from Dortmund to name one.
Giggs, wtf  ;D

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« Reply #41437 on: May 17, 2017, 10:01:37 AM »
And bring in who to replace him?

The Utd job, along with Madrid, brings a unique level of pressure that only a handful of men on the planet, and by that I mean less than 5, are suited to handle. In fact i can't even think of 5 candidates that I would like in the post. Indubitably Mourinho is one of those 5, even though he can be a bit gubby sometimes when the pressure is cranked to it's maximum i.e. Utd lose a match or have a bad season. I think he has done a reasonable job of getting the ship back on course. it is clear that he is unhappy that some of his players do not have the warrior spirit that is required e.g. Sicknote Jones and Smalling, or have a shit attitude e.g. Shaw and that needs to change. I think Mourinho has enough credits [from past achievements rather than his Utd record]to go about doing this but it is a massive task. Utd have no god-given right to be winning every other PL title or CL, they have had long lean spells in the past, as have England's other big club Liverpool, so it  is going to take something special to turn this around.

The only other option Utd have is to go down the route Madrid took and appoint a Zidane type figure, at Utd this person was obviously Giggs but he was passed over on three occasions so i guess they do not have faith in his ability for some reason.

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« Reply #41438 on: May 17, 2017, 10:15:28 AM »
Pochettino or Simeone if you want names. Tuchel I don't know much about but looks promising.

Louis Van Gaal won a lot of things in the past too and look how that turned out. In case people forget, United missed out on CL last year on goal difference, finishing 5th. Two other teams have passed United out this season with Leicester dropping down.

No one has a divine right to success but with the financial clout United have they really should at least be challenging for the big titles every year.

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« Reply #41439 on: May 17, 2017, 10:44:40 AM »
Pochettino or Simeone if you want names. Tuchel I don't know much about but looks promising.

Louis Van Gaal won a lot of things in the past too and look how that turned out. In case people forget, United missed out on CL last year on goal difference, finishing 5th. Two other teams have passed United out this season with Leicester dropping down.

No one has a divine right to success but with the financial clout United have they really should at least be challenging for the big titles every year.

Yeah you would think United finished about 15th last year the way some are talking about the task that was ahead of Mourinho.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

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« Reply #41440 on: May 17, 2017, 10:56:22 AM »
Pochettino  has won nothing. Couldn't beat Leicester to a place title in a poor premier league.  United have a very average squad. Mourinho is on the verge of winning 2 trophies in his 1st season ffs no utd manager has ever won anything in their 1st year and with a good transfer window utd will be much better next season. Jose is the man for the job.


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« Reply #41441 on: May 17, 2017, 11:13:41 AM »
Seanie your view is clouded because you can't stand Mourinho, there isn't a manager out there with a better record than Mourinho given the clubs he has managed to bring success too. Fergie was guilty of acting the p***k on many occasions and was well out order with the way he treated several players.

I'd be very confident we'd have made top 4 if we hadn't been playing in Europe the last 3 months, league form has clearly been affected and isn't a clear reflection of where we are. We'll have played 15 more games than Chelsea come the end of the season which is a huge difference considering their in the cup final.

Mourinho may well not be the same manager he was 10 years ago but I'm certainly prepared to give him more than 1 season to find out given how poor we've been in the previous 3 seasons and given the amount of average players we've bought.

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« Reply #41442 on: May 17, 2017, 11:19:31 AM »
Pochettino or Simeone if you want names. Tuchel I don't know much about but looks promising.

Louis Van Gaal won a lot of things in the past too and look how that turned out. In case people forget, United missed out on CL last year on goal difference, finishing 5th. Two other teams have passed United out this season with Leicester dropping down.

No one has a divine right to success but with the financial clout United have they really should at least be challenging for the big titles every year.

What has either of them won? Simeone La LIga? Overacheiving with a small club is a world away from taking the reins at Utd. Even when Jose moved form Porto it was only to Chelsea, not one of the 2 giants.

it is clear that there are a large number of players that Jose has no faith in, and quite rightly so IMO

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Re: Man Utd Thread:
« Reply #41443 on: May 17, 2017, 12:23:46 PM »
Would Klopp have done any better if he was in charge if Utd this season?

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« Reply #41444 on: May 17, 2017, 12:55:57 PM »
United had no European football in January, two games a month in February, March & April.

It's hardly baseball type fixtures

After those European games they had only 3 Premier League games, they won all three.

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