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Maroon Manc

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« Reply #41355 on: May 12, 2017, 09:57:04 AM »
That was appalling last night, so frustrating watching Celta allowed to put crosses into our box knowing the inevitable was going to happen. Our back 4 has too many small players in it to be allowing that too happen, Blind for a centre half is far too small and weak whilst Darmian & Valencia aren't tall either. Lingard & Mkhitaryan had far too many half arsed attempts at blocking crosses, Mkhitaryan in particular has been very poor the last 6 weeks given the ability he has. Mourinho said afterwards he'd be asking the players to move forward as a group but the last 20 minutes but it just didn't happen.

United played some great football earlier on in the season from mid October to early January so I'm hopeful we'll see it next season when he brings in more of his own players. United look such a tired team and its not helped by someone like Martial who should be having a huge impact but has had a poor season instead.

On the positive note we're in another European final with a chance to win our 2nd trophy of the season.

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« Reply #41356 on: May 12, 2017, 10:37:38 AM »
On another note people go on about the money spent since Fergie left. Most of that was spent under LVG and was spent badly.

The list of players bought since Fergie left are Mata, Fellaini, Herrera, Shaw, Rojo, Di Maria, Blind, Depay, Darmian, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Martial, Pogba, Zlatan, Mkhitaryan & Bailly. The majority of that lot are poor buys and I doubt Mourinho would have bought any of the players bought by LVG and Jose certainly wouldn't have bought Mata or Fellaini. Then there was Falcao who came on loan and the ridiculous decision to give Rooney a 5 year contract and even allowing to let Welbeck leave. So many poor decisions have been made so its going to take time a bit more time to get it right then we first thought.




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« Reply #41357 on: May 12, 2017, 11:24:18 AM »
It's nice to adorn the Europa league final now that it has achieved significant status and improved coefficient with the big teams now taking it more seriously.     Can't recall which pub team Liverpool played in the final back in the old format when it was on Channel 5 and a tuppence ha'penny competition but how times change with it now attracting the big sponsors and it being shown alongside the CL on BT Sport.  A United v Ajax final will elevate the competition further.  Roll on 24th!!

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« Reply #41358 on: May 12, 2017, 11:33:27 AM »
Judging Celta Vigo on league form is silly. They gave up on the league months ago by playing second string sides. All their effort was put into the Europa league and as I said after the 1st leg this tie was far from over and having watched them in the La Liga over the last few years a full strength Celta Vigo full focused are a dangerous opponent capable of beating better teams than this current Manchester United team.

On the final so called chance for Guidetti I think it was only a half chance as the ball was fired at him giving him little chance to score. For as bad as they were last night on the balance of the two legs Manchester United winning by one goal aggregate as probably a fair result.

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« Reply #41359 on: May 12, 2017, 01:17:34 PM »
On another note people go on about the money spent since Fergie left. Most of that was spent under LVG and was spent badly.

The list of players bought since Fergie left are Mata, Fellaini, Herrera, Shaw, Rojo, Di Maria, Blind, Depay, Darmian, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Martial, Pogba, Zlatan, Mkhitaryan & Bailly. The majority of that lot are poor buys and I doubt Mourinho would have bought any of the players bought by LVG and Jose certainly wouldn't have bought Mata or Fellaini. Then there was Falcao who came on loan and the ridiculous decision to give Rooney a 5 year contract and even allowing to let Welbeck leave. So many poor decisions have been made so its going to take time a bit more time to get it right then we first thought.

Fellaini came up trumps last night again when the shit was hitting the fan for Jose, first teamer for sure next year.

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« Reply #41360 on: May 12, 2017, 01:32:09 PM »
On another note people go on about the money spent since Fergie left. Most of that was spent under LVG and was spent badly.

The list of players bought since Fergie left are Mata, Fellaini, Herrera, Shaw, Rojo, Di Maria, Blind, Depay, Darmian, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Martial, Pogba, Zlatan, Mkhitaryan & Bailly. The majority of that lot are poor buys and I doubt Mourinho would have bought any of the players bought by LVG and Jose certainly wouldn't have bought Mata or Fellaini. Then there was Falcao who came on loan and the ridiculous decision to give Rooney a 5 year contract and even allowing to let Welbeck leave. So many poor decisions have been made so its going to take time a bit more time to get it right then we first thought.

Hernandez was the one that should have been kept ahead of welbeck.
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« Reply #41361 on: May 13, 2017, 08:15:09 AM »
Wellbeck to Arsenal was OK business when you've Rashford and Lingard coming through.  As said, letting Chicharito go was madness.

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« Reply #41362 on: May 15, 2017, 12:43:22 PM »
No surprise getting beat yesterday. I'm not sure what he's going to do at centre half against Ajax, I expect Jones to start its just whether its Smalling or Blind; I'd like to see both players leave OT this summer. Martial showed in glimpses what he can do, I'd start him ahead of Lingard and move Mkhitaryan back to the right hand side where he's had better game earlier on in the season.

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« Reply #41363 on: May 15, 2017, 12:49:20 PM »
Jones and Smalling both have to go.  I would keep Blind.
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« Reply #41364 on: May 15, 2017, 01:12:45 PM »

All three should be P45d. When on form, Smalling is competent at best and I could understand keeping him as cover. The other two can jog on...

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« Reply #41365 on: May 15, 2017, 01:14:33 PM »
Jones and Smalling both have to go.  I would keep Blind.

I think Blind is even more of a liability than Smalling, his lack of pace and power is an obvious issue but my main concern is that he makes a huge mistake in every game he plays at centre half, lost count of the amount of times he's fallen asleep and dropped deeper than the rest of the back 4 and its led to goals. Smalling is just hopeless in possession.

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« Reply #41366 on: May 15, 2017, 01:15:50 PM »
Who else likely to be moved on?

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« Reply #41367 on: May 15, 2017, 01:21:40 PM »
No one deserves to be moved on more than the manager.

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« Reply #41368 on: May 15, 2017, 01:29:47 PM »
No one deserves to be moved on more than the manager.

Wouldn't be surprised if he deliberately sacked off the chase for top 4, knowing he wouldn't then be criticised as severely for league position.

No such excuses next year.

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« Reply #41369 on: May 15, 2017, 01:47:39 PM »
Who else likely to be moved on?

Probably not too many, Rooney will certainly be moved on this summer but not expecting too many given Schnierdlin, Depay & Schweinsteiger were sold without been replaced. Zlatan will likely leave given the injury but other than that i'd imagine one of Shaw, Blind & Smalling will be let go.