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Question: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's gesture of hanging a Dunboyne jersey in their dressing room in reversed circumstances?
Option 1: Of course votes: 7
Option 2: Never votes: 11
Option 3: How is this even a question? votes: 33
Option 4: Cahill Must Go votes: 22
Title: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on April 28, 2018, 05:13:18 PM
I would have thought the answer obvious myself, but a tweet from Des Cahill today made me wonder, not for first time lately, if I'm cracked or if the world as I knew it has turned on its head.

As you know, Dunboyne GAA stalwart Seán Cox was horrifically assaulted before Liverpool FC played FC Roma in the UEFA Champions League in Liverpool during the week. Liverpool and those associated with the club have been outstanding in their reactions to the crime, and we all pray Seán Cox recovers.

Des Cahill commended Liverpool for their gesture in hanging a Dunboyne jersey in their dressing room today, but went on to qualify his remarks by describing the gesture as:
Quote
a gesture that wouldn't be carried out by county #GAA teams in Ireland.

Here's the link to the tweet itself, which I can't get to embed properly in this post: https://twitter.com/sportsdes/status/990189837964759040
This would be outrageous from some of the anti-GAA people in RTÉ, but hardly surprising. But from the presenter of the Sunday Game? Does Des Cahill needs to explain himself and then some, or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Syferus on April 28, 2018, 05:16:28 PM
Des is a special child but for him as a GAA presenter to say that is utterly incredible.

Also the idea that someone could be stabbed into a coma by a rival supporter while attending an IC match is so preposterous exactly because the GAA as an organisation fosters a far better supporter culture than Liverpool or any professional soccer club or league does.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on April 28, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
Thanks Syferus but let's not go down the road of comparing crowds and cultures. People at GAA matches are from one small island. Soccer crowds are from all corners of the globe. They can't be compared.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Jinxy on April 28, 2018, 05:36:28 PM
Dunno what Des was going for here tbh.
Odd statement to make.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Syferus on April 28, 2018, 05:41:44 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on April 28, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
Thanks Syferus but let's not go down the road of comparing crowds and cultures. People at GAA matches are from one small island. Soccer crowds are from all corners of the globe. They can't be compared.

Fan violence has been commonplace between teams from the same city, let alone the same region in soccer. Those are perfectly comparable.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2018, 05:44:56 PM
To be honest des is a bit of a plonker. Since putting eamon o'hara in a very uncomfortable position to grab headlines i have noticed he is a bit attention seeking.

Odd statement as in no way comparable.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: seafoid on April 28, 2018, 05:45:43 PM
When is the last time someone was beaten unconscious by an opposing fan at a GAA match?
If it did happen it would be shocking. If the injured party was a Liverpool fan I am sure something would be done.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: sid waddell on April 28, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Assaults have and do happen around GAA matches.

I've seen opposing supporters fighting plenty of times at matches themselves.

Christy Burke's son was stabbed and ended up in a critical condition after the Leinster final replay in 2000 but survived.

A Donegal supporter was beaten and died the night of the 1992 All-Ireland final. Seamus Braid was his name.

Not to mention some of the thuggery that has happened on the pitch. Tell Mark McGovern's family that thuggery doesn't happen on the pitch.

Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: seafoid on April 28, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on April 28, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Assaults have and do happen around GAA matches.

I've seen opposing supporters fighting plenty of times at matches themselves.

Christy Burke's son was stabbed and ended up in a critical condition after the Leinster final replay in 2000 but survived.

A Donegal supporter was beaten and died the night of the 1992 All-Ireland final. Seamus Braid was his name.

Not to mention some of the thuggery that has happened on the pitch. Tell Mark McGovern's family that thuggery doesn't happen on the pitch.
I wasn't aware of those incidents , Sid.
The first time I went to a match in Scotland  police on horses separated the fan's.  It was Hibs v Celtic  . I thought they would have been on the same side.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Insane Bolt on April 28, 2018, 08:03:32 PM
GAA fans still integrate at games.....don't have to be kept apart. Football fans.....a very different breed altogether.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on April 28, 2018, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on April 28, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Assaults have and do happen around GAA matches.

I've seen opposing supporters fighting plenty of times at matches themselves.

Christy Burke's son was stabbed and ended up in a critical condition after the Leinster final replay in 2000 but survived.

A Donegal supporter was beaten and died the night of the 1992 All-Ireland final. Seamus Braid was his name.

Not to mention some of the thuggery that has happened on the pitch. Tell Mark McGovern's family that thuggery doesn't happen on the pitch.

terrible incidents but very few and far between and those years show
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Ball Hopper on April 28, 2018, 11:00:53 PM
Quote from: longballin on April 28, 2018, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on April 28, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Assaults have and do happen around GAA matches.

I've seen opposing supporters fighting plenty of times at matches themselves.

Christy Burke's son was stabbed and ended up in a critical condition after the Leinster final replay in 2000 but survived.

A Donegal supporter was beaten and died the night of the 1992 All-Ireland final. Seamus Braid was his name.

Not to mention some of the thuggery that has happened on the pitch. Tell Mark McGovern's family that thuggery doesn't happen on the pitch.

terrible incidents but very few and far between and those years show

Did Mark McGovern make a full recovery?
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on April 28, 2018, 11:09:26 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on April 28, 2018, 11:00:53 PM
Quote from: longballin on April 28, 2018, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on April 28, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Assaults have and do happen around GAA matches.

I've seen opposing supporters fighting plenty of times at matches themselves.

Christy Burke's son was stabbed and ended up in a critical condition after the Leinster final replay in 2000 but survived.

A Donegal supporter was beaten and died the night of the 1992 All-Ireland final. Seamus Braid was his name.

Not to mention some of the thuggery that has happened on the pitch. Tell Mark McGovern's family that thuggery doesn't happen on the pitch.

terrible incidents but very few and far between and those years show

Did Mark McGovern make a full recovery?

I believe he did but does not take away at all from what happened.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Ball Hopper on April 29, 2018, 03:05:36 AM
Quote from: longballin on April 28, 2018, 11:09:26 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on April 28, 2018, 11:00:53 PM
Quote from: longballin on April 28, 2018, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on April 28, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Assaults have and do happen around GAA matches.

I've seen opposing supporters fighting plenty of times at matches themselves.

Christy Burke's son was stabbed and ended up in a critical condition after the Leinster final replay in 2000 but survived.

A Donegal supporter was beaten and died the night of the 1992 All-Ireland final. Seamus Braid was his name.

Not to mention some of the thuggery that has happened on the pitch. Tell Mark McGovern's family that thuggery doesn't happen on the pitch.

terrible incidents but very few and far between and those years show

Did Mark McGovern make a full recovery?

I believe he did but does not take away at all from what happened.

Absolutely...glad he recovered.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: supersub on April 29, 2018, 03:50:52 AM
Anyone who saw the scenes between Crossmaglen and Cullyhanna recently would know that both supporter and player violence is very much going on in our game.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: blast05 on April 29, 2018, 11:23:23 AM
Des 65 in a couple of days time. A new director of sport in RTE ....... is he angling for a package ?
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: larryin89 on April 29, 2018, 11:32:30 AM
Don't understand  his tweet at all, what exactly does he mean ?
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on April 29, 2018, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: supersub on April 29, 2018, 03:50:52 AM
Anyone who saw the scenes between Crossmaglen and Cullyhanna recently would know that both supporter and player violence is very much going on in our game.

that's true and not to be condoned but is red mist madness not comparable to soccer on the streets pre-planned with all sorts of weapons.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Rossfan on April 29, 2018, 01:05:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on April 29, 2018, 11:32:30 AM
Don't understand  his tweet at all, what exactly does he mean ?

Always thought he was a floot. Now I'm sure of it.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: LilySavage on April 29, 2018, 01:55:20 PM
 Get rid. This clown is the presenter of The Sunday Game. Let's be honest he hasn't a clue about the GAA. Cuala me arse. Used think he was a harmless eegit. That tweet is outrageous.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2018, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: supersub on April 29, 2018, 03:50:52 AM
Anyone who saw the scenes between Crossmaglen and Cullyhanna recently would know that both supporter and player violence is very much going on in our game.

As someone who was involved in the whole thing don't got caught up in thinking that what went on at that game and what happened on Tuesday night are in anyway comparable. One event was a 3-4 minute burst of madness in reaction to an incident, the other was a premeditated organised group of attackers. The culture round violence at a GAA match and what happened in Liverpool can be summed up though by the fallout of our game last week. Even though there was a lot of aggression last week, on and off the field,  I took our u12s to Cullyhanna yesterday, less than a week after it, and had a vey sporting game with not a cross word between players, management and supporters, all of whom would have been at the game the previous week and some involved in what happened, myself and my brother in law being 2 and he is a coach as well as I am.

Des Cahill is an Idiot for his comment and he should actually be shown the road. There was absolutely no need for it.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: 02 on April 29, 2018, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2018, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: supersub on April 29, 2018, 03:50:52 AM
Anyone who saw the scenes between Crossmaglen and Cullyhanna recently would know that both supporter and player violence is very much going on in our game.

As someone who was involved in the whole thing don't got caught up in thinking that what went on at that game and what happened on Tuesday night are in anyway comparable. One event was a 3-4 minute burst of madness in reaction to an incident, the other was a premeditated organised group of attackers. The culture round violence at a GAA match and what happened in Liverpool can be summed up though by the fallout of our game last week. Even though there was a lot of aggression last week, on and off the field,  I took our u12s to Cullyhanna yesterday, less than a week after it, and had a vey sporting game with not a cross word between players, management and supporters, all of whom would have been at the game the previous week and some involved in what happened, myself and my brother in law being 2 and he is a coach as well as I am.

Des Cahill is an Idiot for his comment and he should actually be shown the road. There was absolutely no need for it.

Agree with all of this BC! Trying to create controversy, very poor choice of incident.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: BennyCake on April 29, 2018, 04:14:02 PM
Daft really. That fella that was injured, that shirt is his home, his roots, his village. Thats why it was done.

If someone was injured that happened to be a Liverpool fan, why would their gaa club hang a Liverpool shirt. I mean, the odds are that person has no connection to Liverpool. They just happen to follow the Liverpool teams interests. Liverpool isn't their home, identity, roots etc.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 29, 2018, 05:53:29 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on April 29, 2018, 03:05:36 AM
Quote from: longballin on April 28, 2018, 11:09:26 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on April 28, 2018, 11:00:53 PM
Quote from: longballin on April 28, 2018, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on April 28, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Assaults have and do happen around GAA matches.

I've seen opposing supporters fighting plenty of times at matches themselves.

Christy Burke's son was stabbed and ended up in a critical condition after the Leinster final replay in 2000 but survived.

A Donegal supporter was beaten and died the night of the 1992 All-Ireland final. Seamus Braid was his name.

Not to mention some of the thuggery that has happened on the pitch. Tell Mark McGovern's family that thuggery doesn't happen on the pitch.

terrible incidents but very few and far between and those years show

Did Mark McGovern make a full recovery?

I believe he did but does not take away at all from what happened.

Absolutely...glad he recovered.

He did indeed - and is working for the GAA now at Croke Park .
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Itchy on April 29, 2018, 06:41:37 PM
Des is a total clown. His tweet shows that. To think he makes a living from presenting GAA games is incredible. He's better at dancing and he's shit at that.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
I would like to think that the next time the Chairman of Liverpool is stabbed at a Dunboyne match the Rovers would make some acknowledgement of LFC  in their dressing room.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: seafoid on April 30, 2018, 09:43:14 AM
If unbelievable Jeff had been beaten unconscious while recording "the road to croker" at the an Ghaeltacht club last year I am sure tigh Pháidi would have put a Hartlepool jersey on display.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Avondhu star on April 30, 2018, 10:04:02 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 30, 2018, 09:43:14 AM
If unbelievable Jeff had been beaten unconscious while recording "the road to croker" at the an Ghaeltacht club last year I am sure tigh Pháidi would have put a Hartlepool jersey on display.

The Monkey Hangers would really appreciate that.
Unbelievable Jeff unbelievable
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: haranguerer on April 30, 2018, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
I would like to think that the next time the Chairman of Liverpool is stabbed at a Dunboyne match the Rovers would make some acknowledgement of LFC  in their dressing room.

Almost precisely (i don't think he was stabbed, was he?)
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 30, 2018, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
I would like to think that the next time the Chairman of Liverpool is stabbed at a Dunboyne match the Rovers would make some acknowledgement of LFC  in their dressing room.
This. Which is why I voted Cahill has to go.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: rosnarun on April 30, 2018, 02:40:05 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 30, 2018, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
I would like to think that the next time the Chairman of Liverpool is stabbed at a Dunboyne match the Rovers would make some acknowledgement of LFC  in their dressing room.
This. Which is why I voted Cahill has to go.
sums it up lovely
anyway is hanging a jersey up on a peg that big a gesture when the poor man is in danger of losing his life because of the violence that has long surrounded soccer in general and Liverpool in particular.
Or maybe it was the cops fault again
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: westbound on April 30, 2018, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on April 30, 2018, 02:40:05 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 30, 2018, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
I would like to think that the next time the Chairman of Liverpool is stabbed at a Dunboyne match the Rovers would make some acknowledgement of LFC  in their dressing room.
This. Which is why I voted Cahill has to go.
sums it up lovely
anyway is hanging a jersey up on a peg that big a gesture when the poor man is in danger of losing his life because of the violence that has long surrounded soccer in general and Liverpool in particular.
Or maybe it was the cops fault again

No need for that dig. It's in bad taste IMO.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 30, 2018, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on April 30, 2018, 02:40:05 PM
anyway is hanging a jersey up on a peg that big a gesture when the poor man is in danger of losing his life because of the violence that has long surrounded soccer in general and Liverpool in particular.

Just a personal opinion, but I thought it was a lovely gesture. Leo Mc's post though underlines the stupidity of Des's question which is why I voted for Option 3.

I honestly struggle to understand what his rationale / thinking was for asking such a question, bar that he has it in in some way for the GAA. 
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Jinxy on April 30, 2018, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on April 30, 2018, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
I would like to think that the next time the Chairman of Liverpool is stabbed at a Dunboyne match the Rovers would make some acknowledgement of LFC  in their dressing room.

Almost precisely (i don't think he was stabbed, was he?)

Also, who are 'the Rovers'?
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Gmac on April 30, 2018, 03:16:13 PM
If u read a lot of his tweets u will find he's far from the sharpest
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 03:44:48 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 30, 2018, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on April 30, 2018, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 30, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
I would like to think that the next time the Chairman of Liverpool is stabbed at a Dunboyne match the Rovers would make some acknowledgement of LFC  in their dressing room.

Almost precisely (i don't think he was stabbed, was he?)

Also, who are 'the Rovers'?
I had it in my head that it was Dunboyne Rovers and I followed the long Journalistic tradition of not checking my facts before posting.   ;)
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 07:23:47 AM
I think the media are tearing the arse out of it. The man is still in a coma.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/liverpool/liverpool-captain-jordan-henderson-sends-a-classy-letter-and-gift-to-the-gaa-club-of-stricken-fan-sean-cox-36861567.html
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Jinxy on May 01, 2018, 11:46:45 AM
Another bugbear of mine is the use of the word 'classy' in clickbait headlines.
'Such and such makes a classy gesture' etc.
Fair dues to Henderson for sending the letter though, I think it's a nice touch.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 01, 2018, 03:17:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 01, 2018, 11:46:45 AM
Another bugbear of mine is the use of the word 'classy' in clickbait headlines.
'Such and such makes a classy gesture' etc.
Fair dues to Henderson for sending the letter though, I think it's a nice touch.

It is. It's very classy!!
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Jinxy on May 01, 2018, 03:27:10 PM
That's a classy post.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 03:35:07 PM
Henderson wrote that putting the jersey in the dressing room was a sophisticated gesture.
That was a strange word to use. But it was classy.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2018, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 03:35:07 PM
Henderson wrote that putting the jersey in the dressing room was a sophisticated gesture.
That was a strange word to use. But it was classy.

Where did he say it was sophisticated?  I saw the letter and he says it was a small gesture, and subtle.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 01, 2018, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 03:35:07 PM
Henderson wrote that putting the jersey in the dressing room was a sophisticated gesture.
That was a strange word to use. But it was classy.

Where did he say it was sophisticated?  I saw the letter and he says it was a small gesture, and subtle.
sorry, he did say subtle. Why did he say it was subtle? I thought it was a strange choice of word
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2018, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 01, 2018, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 03:35:07 PM
Henderson wrote that putting the jersey in the dressing room was a sophisticated gesture.
That was a strange word to use. But it was classy.

Where did he say it was sophisticated?  I saw the letter and he says it was a small gesture, and subtle.
sorry, he did say subtle. Why did he say it was subtle? I thought it was a strange choice of word

Subtle as in understated and simple I suppose. Like it was just a small thing, not a big in your face gesture.

Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Jinxy on May 01, 2018, 07:41:22 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 01, 2018, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 03:35:07 PM
Henderson wrote that putting the jersey in the dressing room was a sophisticated gesture.
That was a strange word to use. But it was classy.

Where did he say it was sophisticated?  I saw the letter and he says it was a small gesture, and subtle.
sorry, he did say subtle. Why did he say it was subtle? I thought it was a strange choice of word

You didn't even know what the word was.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 09:32:44 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 01, 2018, 07:41:22 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 01, 2018, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 01, 2018, 03:35:07 PM
Henderson wrote that putting the jersey in the dressing room was a sophisticated gesture.
That was a strange word to use. But it was classy.

Where did he say it was sophisticated?  I saw the letter and he says it was a small gesture, and subtle.
sorry, he did say subtle. Why did he say it was subtle? I thought it was a strange choice of word

You didn't even know what the word was.
Yes but it was very classy.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: supersub on May 02, 2018, 12:22:53 AM
Quote from: 02 on April 29, 2018, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2018, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: supersub on April 29, 2018, 03:50:52 AM
Anyone who saw the scenes between Crossmaglen and Cullyhanna recently would know that both supporter and player violence is very much going on in our game.

As someone who was involved in the whole thing don't got caught up in thinking that what went on at that game and what happened on Tuesday night are in anyway comparable. One event was a 3-4 minute burst of madness in reaction to an incident, the other was a premeditated organised group of attackers. The culture round violence at a GAA match and what happened in Liverpool can be summed up though by the fallout of our game last week. Even though there was a lot of aggression last week, on and off the field,  I took our u12s to Cullyhanna yesterday, less than a week after it, and had a vey sporting game with not a cross word between players, management and supporters, all of whom would have been at the game the previous week and some involved in what happened, myself and my brother in law being 2 and he is a coach as well as I am.

Des Cahill is an Idiot for his comment and he should actually be shown the road. There was absolutely no need for it.

Agree with all of this BC! Trying to create controversy, very poor choice of incident.

Not trying to create controversy, strange choice of phrase.

I wasn't comparing the two incidents. And I won't go any further than that.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: thejuice on May 02, 2018, 01:55:04 PM
While it was a stupid tweet I don't someone should lose their job over it. Freedom of speech means freedom of stupidity too. However unfortunate that may be at times. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for Des to take the high road though.

It's rather laughable when people react to tweets as "incredible" or "outrageous" or "shocking". It's like we've all become emotionally incontinent, of course the situation hasn't been helped by mainstream media, sensationalist alternative media and the universal megaphone of social media. 
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Jinxy on May 02, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
I think Des was going for the 'for all the abuse soccer gets, the self-righteous GAA would never do this if the shoe was on the other foot' angle.
Basically, if a Dublin-supporting English man was attacked by Mayo fans, while standing outside Gills, would the Dubs find out which local soccer team he was involved with back in England and hang their jersey in the dressing-room?
I guess we will literally never know.
Anyway, he picked a strange hell to die on, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: easytiger95 on May 02, 2018, 02:28:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 02, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
I think Des was going for the 'for all the abuse soccer gets, the self-righteous GAA would never do this if the shoe was on the other foot' angle.
Basically, if a Dublin-supporting English man was attacked by Mayo fans, while standing outside Gills, would the Dubs find out which local soccer team he was involved with back in England and hang their jersey in the dressing-room?
I guess we will literally never know.
Anyway, he picked a strange hell to die on, if you ask me.

But will Des take the classy way out?

Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: magpie seanie on May 02, 2018, 02:53:04 PM
I had no idea what this was about initially so took option 3.

Option 4 is a given but this merely underlines what a clown the chap is. They need to get Ó Cinnéide in there. He's classy.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 02, 2018, 03:07:35 PM
Des is a clown, is there anyone worse at presenting then Des?

As for Henderson the Liverpool PR team will have gone into overdrive to gain a good bit of PR after last weeks antics. Any big football club would do the same.

Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: AZOffaly on May 02, 2018, 03:12:16 PM
Last week's antics? What antics?
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on May 28, 2018, 08:37:25 AM
In light of the disgraceful comments made by a small minority of Liverpool fans about Loris Karius and his young son on social media, I wonder will Des be so quick to do a 'compare and contrast' between this aspect of professional football in England and the GAA?

Methinks not. 
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
I never saw a losing all Ireland team abandon the goalie who let in a howler or the player who made the mistake that lost the match. 
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 09:22:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
I never saw a losing all Ireland team abandon the goalie who let in a howler or the player who made the mistake that lost the match.


This is still being widely reported despite the photographs and footage of several liverpool players consoling Karius.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on May 28, 2018, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 09:22:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
I never saw a losing all Ireland team abandon the goalie who let in a howler or the player who made the mistake that lost the match.


This is still being widely reported despite the photographs and footage of several liverpool players consoling Karius.

It was clear on TV for ages after the final whistle Karius was distraught and no Liverpool player went near him also when he went to to Liverpool players. They usually do when a player misses a penalty in a shoout-out. YNWA  : )
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: longballin on May 28, 2018, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 09:22:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
I never saw a losing all Ireland team abandon the goalie who let in a howler or the player who made the mistake that lost the match.


This is still being widely reported despite the photographs and footage of several liverpool players consoling Karius.

It was clear on TV for ages after the final whistle Karius was distraught and no Liverpool player went near him also when he went to to Liverpool players. They usually do when a player misses a penalty in a shoout-out. YNWA  : )

I commented on it at the time, but then again if you look at the pictures almost all of the players are collapsed on their own. I think they were all so devastated themselves individually that they had to get over that before they went near Karius. To be fair he got a good reception down with the fans as well.

All that said, if it was Salah that missed a peno, or Lovren that gave away a needless peno, I think they'd have been reached quicker. I get the sense Karius is not really 'in' that dressing room. Henderson had a bit of a go at him as they celebrated after the semi final too.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on May 28, 2018, 10:03:46 AM
Radio commentary on Karius being disowned by the Liverpool players. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p068bwxz
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Quote from: longballin on May 28, 2018, 10:03:46 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p068bwxz

Yes, but that's not true. They didn't go to him in the first couple of minutes, but as I said for at least a good minute they were all on their own slumped on the turf. After that, it was normal. He wasn't exactly shunned :) And the fans gave him a good reception.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: laoislad on May 28, 2018, 10:08:22 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 09:22:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
I never saw a losing all Ireland team abandon the goalie who let in a howler or the player who made the mistake that lost the match.


This is still being widely reported despite the photographs and footage of several liverpool players consoling Karius.
Ah here sure you can't be letting what really happened get in the way of all the faux outrage over this.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on May 28, 2018, 10:22:55 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 28, 2018, 10:08:22 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 09:22:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
I never saw a losing all Ireland team abandon the goalie who let in a howler or the player who made the mistake that lost the match.


This is still being widely reported despite the photographs and footage of several liverpool players consoling Karius.
Ah here sure you can't be letting what really happened get in the way of all the faux outrage over this.

Live TV coverage doesn't lie he was abandoned as the radio commentary confirms.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 10:39:06 AM
Abandoned :)

Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on May 28, 2018, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 10:39:06 AM
Abandoned :)

Team mate totally distraught and none of the team goes to him... yeah, I think abandoned is one word would describe it.
Dictionary

abandon
əˈband(ə)n/Submit
verb
1.
cease to support or look after (someone); desert.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
Fair enough :) The pictures and scenes afterwards don't count. So for a 5 minute period, he was abandoned.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on May 28, 2018, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
Fair enough :) The pictures and scenes afterwards don't count. So for a 5 minute period, he was abandoned.

Don't think a GAA team would do that.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 10:51:55 AM
(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/371735.jpg)

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/371727.jpg)
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 11:02:34 AM
Quote from: longballin on May 28, 2018, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
Fair enough :) The pictures and scenes afterwards don't count. So for a 5 minute period, he was abandoned.

Don't think a GAA team would do that.

Is that what this is about? Fucks sake, everyone knows Des Cahill is two ends of a bollox.
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on May 28, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 10:51:55 AM
(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/371735.jpg)

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/371727.jpg)

Two players not even looking at him lol! and a member of the backroom team... listen to the radio again. Was Real Madrid players went to him. Doesn't always happen in soccer; when players miss in penalty shootouts teammates usually rally around them but Karius was left to stew, Liverpool players were furious with him. YNWA   :D
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
How many liverpool players would you like to see console him? 3? 4? 10? The whole squad at once?
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: longballin on May 28, 2018, 05:02:52 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
How many liverpool players would you like to see console him? 3? 4? 10? The whole squad at once?

Manager and capt and more players than that but players were too busy feeling sorry for themselves
Title: Re: Would a GAA County Team Reciprocate Liverpool FC's Dunboyne Jersey Gesture?
Post by: Itchy on May 28, 2018, 05:08:16 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 28, 2018, 05:02:52 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
How many liverpool players would you like to see console him? 3? 4? 10? The whole squad at once?

Manager and capt and more players than that but players were too busy feeling sorry for themselves

He can console himself by looking at the huge pay cheque he gets every week. Man up ffs