News just ijn that Ciaran McDonald has retired from Inter-County Footbal.......sad day
where'd you hear this?
Quote from: Maradona on December 05, 2006, 01:05:29 PM
News just ijn that Ciaran McDonald has retired from Inter-County Footbal.......sad day
Does he not retire every Winter?
I just read the entire squad turned up for the 1st meeting with the new manager with no retirements
Scurilous rumours!
Quote from: Maradona on December 05, 2006, 01:05:29 PM
News just ijn that Ciaran McDonald has retired from Inter-County Footbal.......sad day
Whats your source? Where did you hear that?
If you cant back up this statement then your full of it and id nearly report you to the moderator for starting false rumors.
Your statement is like something you would read on the hoganstand message board.
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O'Mahony predicts no retirements
05 December 2006
John O'Mahony met with the Mayo players for the first time last weekend and doesn't expect any retirements from the side that lost the All-Ireland football final to Kerry.
The new Mayo boss met 26 of the 30 players who made up last season's panel and claimed he received a "very enthusiastic response". O'Mahony expects David Brady, who announced his inter-county retirement in the wake of the All-Ireland final defeat, to be back in harness next year.
"A few of last year's panel are out of the country," he said.
"As of now, I've got no indication from any of them that they're not willing to be on board in the coming year. Kevin O'Neill was out of the country at the weekend but from indications that we have got from speaking to him, he's interested in continuing. Similarly with James Nallen, David Heaney, Ciaran McDonald and all these guys."
O'Mahony revealed that no new players were invited to last weekend's get-together, but he is keen to add new players to the squad and it's expected that members of last year's All-Ireland under 21 winning team will come into the reckoning.
O'Mahony also confirmed that former Olympic coach Jim Kilty will be joining his backroom staff.
In fairness we were due the annual rumour. Expect the David Brady saga next week.
Quote from: bingobus on December 05, 2006, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: Maradona on December 05, 2006, 01:05:29 PM
News just ijn that Ciaran McDonald has retired from Inter-County Footbal.......sad day
Does he not retire every Winter?
If Ciaran needs to announce his retirement and it helps him take a complete metal break from football for the winter then thats what he should do. and maybe nallen should as well in his many years playing for mayo i dont ever remember nallen taking a break or even a long term injury. Braks work wonder Heaney improved 50% after his ozzy adventure.
But come ye back when summer's in the meadow.
isnt there a long time hogan stand shit stirrer called maradonna
Quote from: rosnarun on December 05, 2006, 01:47:28 PM
isnt there a long time hogan stand shit stirrer called maradonna
Not sure I only ever take a glance now and again to see how outrageous the posts can get
Total BS - McD might be taking a break because of a long term back injury...thats the height of it. He hasn't played for the club since Brigids beat them because of this injury.
He deserves a break for a month or 2 but it would be great to have everyone on board for the start of the league
Maradonna is a credible poster in fairness. This from the Mayo News though seems to confirm the situation
QuoteNEW Mayo manager John O'Mahony met with the 2006 senior squad on Saturday last in Castlebar and also unveiled the team's new fitness trainer.
Twenty-six of last year's squad were in attendance at the first meeting with Kevin O'Neill and Pat Harte among the players who were absent as they were both out of the country.
However, James Nallen, David Heaney, Ciaran McDonald and David Brady all attended.
Speaking on Monday at the launch of the new GAA mascot for children, RUA – which is decked out in county specific colours and priced at €20 – O'Mahony said: "I met the 2006 panel at the weekend and I got a very enthusiastic response.
"What we'll be doing from now on is adjusting the panel and bringing in new guys and so on. That starts from next weekend. Basically what we've done is invite the 2006 panel back. As of now I've got no indication from any of them that they're not willing to be on board in the coming year.
"Kevin O'Neill was out of the country and wasn't available at the weekend but from indications we've got from speaking to him he's interested in continuing," he added.
Mayo's new trainer, Jim Kilty, a Meath man living in Dublin, worked with Mayo five years ago during Pat Holmes' managerial reign and has also enjoyed notable coaching success in the field of athletics.
It is understood that Kilty will oversee the squad's training regime for the next three years and joins Kieran Gallagher, Tommy Lyons and Martin Carney (video and statistical analysis) in Mayo's backroom team.
"I remember when I started in management over 20 years ago," said O'Mahony. "You basically had the manager and his selectors and you didn't really look for advice outside of that. Now you need a whole lot of backroom guys and expertise in each area so in that sense it is becoming a very important factor," he told the Irish Daily Mail.
Kilty is the Director of SAQ Ireland (a company which offers coach education packages which specialise in the development of fundamental movement skills to County Boards and clubs as well as individual coaches).
"It's all about running sharp," he explained about his training methods. "There are no long runs, no warm-up around the field. This keeps players fresher, faster and nippier. This is the type of training that the English rugby team does, the Munster rugby team and the Irish team.''
A renowned PE author, Kilty began his career as a primary school teacher and in 1990 was seconded to become the National Director for Coaching in Athletics Ireland. He served in that position until 1999. He was a tutor on the Summer School of Athletics from 1974 and in 1988 became the Director of the programme.
Since 1988, Kilty has coached 14 athletes to the Olympic Games and was coach at the Seoul and Atlanta Olympics. In 2001, he trained Tipperary to win the All-Ireland Hurling Final and trained Wexford with the Leinster Hurling Championship in 2004. Recently, he has worked with hurdles champion Derval O'Rourke.
Dr Frank Davey will also return to the Mayo fold under the new management regime. The well-known Charlestown GP was team doctor during O'Mahony's previous spell in charge and will return to that role with the senior squad in the New Year.
MEANWHILE, the Mayo minor manager for 2007 will be announced tonight (Wednesday) at a meeting of the County Board. All four candidates were interviewed last week – Eugene Ivers, Ray Dempsey, Michael Moyles and Barry Murphy. The interviewing panel will be forwarding one of their names to the delegates for ratification.
Was at a SAQ course with Jim Kilty recently. He had some interesting things to say on Mayos "preparation" for this years final. They won't lack for anything in the training/fitness side of things anyway.
Declan, what did he say about Mayo's preparation for this years final?
Would you care to expand on that declan?
No slight intended lads. The word was, that unlike previous years whereby Mayo trained harder after getting out of Connacht this year they deliberately kept sessions lighter and more specific in September. One of the tenets of SAQ allows for resting periods but that he felt they probably overdid the resting in the last week before the final and subsequently this showed in the lack lustre performance. Must stress that this was his opinion based on what he saw and he could be way off
Quote from: Declan on December 05, 2006, 03:43:49 PM
Was at a SAQ course with Jim Kilty recently. He had some interesting things to say on Mayos "preparation" for this years final. They won't lack for anything in the training/fitness side of things anyway.
Just wondering Declan, how did you become aware of this course. I presume you need lots of previous coaching levels completed already before reaching this standard. The GAA Official Website is slack enough regards such information. Any ideas where to look for information regarding officail GAA coaching courses?
QuoteJim Kilty, a Meath man living in Dublin, worked with Mayo five years ago during Pat Holmes' managerial reign
OH and ther was me getting rexcited about the new dawn. can anyone remember a worse performance than that day in markevicks park.
I thought Aidan O'Mahoney retired him in September.....
Sorry I know the wounds are still raw..
Kilty did a foundation SAQ course in Bangor Erris last March and did the Level1 there a few weeks ago in Castlebar. Didnt get to the Level1. He's an amiable chap who is very committed to whatever he does. The courses were ran by Mayo County Council Sports Partnership.
QuoteKilty did a foundation SAQ course in Bangor Erris last March and did the Level1 there a few weeks ago in Castlebar. Didnt get to the Level1. He's an amiable chap who is very committed to whatever he does. The courses were ran by Mayo County Council Sports Partnership.
I did mine in Navan. Course run by Meath Local Sports Partnership and there were GAA,Soccer,Rugby,Basketball, PE teachers etc on it. Funnily enough Kilty taught me when he was in the Brothers in the 70s and so I was teachers pet during the course which meant doing all the drills. I was wrecked.
He's a good guy and as highking said very committed
QuoteThis is the type of training that the English rugby team does
Probably not a great example to use Johnno........
What kind of seafoid is this to be goin' on with Maradona. Do ya want to give us all heart attacks this close to Christmas?
Lads, have to hold me hands up and admit my news source was unfounded. Apologies, I've managed to change the title of the thread.
(God, I'm going to kill my sister at Christmas!! - they have nothing better to do down home!)
if you just said your sister was a source. then we'd a least it was a credible story. i mean they know there stuff these swinford? women
the fact that macD went to the meeting on saturday shows that he is keen to get back into it. We didnt see him until the league semi final this year.
There are appaently 12 additional players call up along with this years panel . Any ideas on who they are?
I agree,the fact he was there on saturday is a good sign.
I wonder how much these fellas can put in after the long year they just had,would a longer break for some older seasoned players be of benefit?
I can see all the 2006 panel keen to be involved with omahony in charge,the thing is he has won allirelands at the top leveL (senior) and they were good enough but failed to start spectacularly against kerry.He might be able to get into the minds and start them.
I spoke with one Mayo player that played both 2004 and 2006 finals and he reckoned his legs turned to lead and he was stuck to the ground in both games.
I have watched the 2006 debacle several times for my penance and all I can say is he was not the only one rooted to the ground, no forward out from oneill made any real move to gain possesion and the full back line were terrified apart from brady who did not care who he busted to get the ball and hold it.Brady is going to be a key figure for Mayo at some position,either fb,mf or a target up front somewhere.I think jom will play him where it suits for a particular game and he is a versatile enough player to be used like that.
The only retirements forthcoming are going to be forced ones and we must applaud these players because of the effort they put in and the excitement they bring to Mayo when the ball bounces right for them.
Goodbye till january.
"What kind of seafoid is this to be goin' on with Maradona. Do ya want to give us all heart attacks this close to Christmas?"
Thats the first time Ive ever seen "Seáfoid" written down, I think its a Mayo word, but looks foreign. Anyone know where the word derives from?
PS: Never thought Id see Maradona in the same sentence as "Seáfoid" either.
QuoteThats the first time Ive ever seen "Seáfoid" written down, I think its a Mayo word, but looks foreign. Anyone know where the word derives from?
You must not read much Irish HighKing. Seáfoid means nonsense or rubbish and I have heard it used in many counties.
seafóid, the fada is on the o! ;D
No dont read much Irish, its a class word though all the same...........
Just heard that Ray Dempsey got the Minor job tonight at CB meeting. Ivors not appointed. Third manager to fall this year. Looks as if the CB dont like their managers to get their feet under the table. Brennan got the Hurling job.
So Dempsey got the job, as far as I know his managerial CV includes getting Knockmore relegated. Still, wish him all the best
Would be very interested in peoples view on Dempsey as a manager. Seems like a sound enough skin but never struck me as management material.
Don't know the guy personally, i know a few lads who reckon he wouldn't be the best communicator in the world and at least one lad who says he was completley to blame for Knockmore being relegated, don't buy that myself as it was a classic case of a player not taking responsibilty.
Ivors had his run and for whatever reasons the board viewed Raymondeen as the best of the other candidates, would have thought our own man Barry Murphy would have been in with a good shout so disappointed for him, that said , move on and wish Dempsey all the best for the year.
Heard on Mad West this morning that Moyles was appointed Sligo minor manager last night after he didn't get the Mayo job
It's nice to see Ray Dempsey as the minor manager. As Stephenite said his only other real management job was with Knockmore when we did poorly in the league. I think he was managing Lahardane for a while when they nearly made the breakthrough to senior, they were doing well enough then anyway at intermediate level.
Have no real opinion on the appointment of Dempsey. Give him a chance, see how he does. Anyone know who his selectors are?
The one positive is that there is a change because we were going nowhere fast with Ivors and his 109 selectors. I think with proper management we had a team good enough to beat Roscommon in this years Connacht Final.
Yes Barney, and where were all the Breaffy lads who won the minor A championship? I know it's no good now but questions should be asked of the management especially with all the selectors that were running the show.
Stephen Healy from Charlestown, Kevin Beirne, Claremorris and Tomas O'Grady from Burrishoole are Dempsey's three selectors. Could be wrong but think there may be one more guy. Martin McGrath is as trainer and Maurice Sheridan into work with forwards and free takers. Sounds like Ray has been busy, that's a decent backroom team. I'd give him every chance with it.
Agree with Farrandeelin on the Breaffy minor lads, there should have been at least three of them involved this year from what I saw.
Delighted to see Dempsey given the chance.
His only stint as a senior manager was with knockmore but i dont think that he was completely at fault.
Dempsey has always reminded me of a roy keane type in his attitude towards preparation and this shows in his backroom team already being chosen, no waiting around.
He will have a fair knowledge of the minor scene having managed the knockmore minors to this yrs county final and winning the div 2 final last weekend, on both occasions playing breaffy, so expect a few lads from thhere this year.
Dempsey has been involved in under-age football for the last few years and i expect him to do well
Interesting to see that micheal moyles is the new sligo minor manager, awaiting ratification from the county board
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 07, 2006, 02:45:38 PM
Delighted to see Dempsey given the chance.
His only stint as a senior manager was with knockmore but i dont think that he was completely at fault.
Its not very reassuring to think that he was not completely at fault, implying that he was partially to blame.
Wish him the best for his tenure in charge. Has a few good men there to help him.
Stephen Healy did a very good job with Charlestown a few years back.
Maurice Sheridan is an interesting addition.
Do either Kevin Beirne or Tomas O'Grady have much experience in this area ?
I say not completely at fault because i was away for the end of the season and not involved at all with the team before that so its hard to tell but i think we had a very young team after losing a lot of influencial players (Chuckie & stanton esp)
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 07, 2006, 02:45:38 PM
Dempsey has always reminded me of a roy keane type in his attitude towards preparation
::) Signs were always on him alright
QuoteIts not very reassuring to think that he was not completely at fault, implying that he was partially to blame.
It'd be a bit much to completely absolve the manager of blame don't you think...............??
C'mon lads, club politics has always played a huge part in the selection of underage teams - this isn't a new thing!
Interesting of selection of Dempsey alright, along with the back room team. Hope it doesn't expand to reach the proportions of recent years! ::) Best of luck to them though.
Moyles was an interesting nomination - has he any experience with any club or college teams or was the nomination due to his retirement (although he has since played)?
Not sure about Moyles managerial experience, he would be well known in Sligo through his involvment with the successful IT team there, assume that's why he got the job
Yeah, I knew that - sure he's fighting it out with his clubmate for the title of the eternal student! Some length in college between the pair of them! Mind you, Jim McGuinness would be in with a shout as well...
Who's the other one ?
Quote from: MacDanger on December 07, 2006, 10:20:05 PM
QuoteIts not very reassuring to think that he was not completely at fault, implying that he was partially to blame.
It'd be a bit much to completely absolve the manager of blame don't you think...............??
Hence it's not very reassuring. :o
Quote from: stephenite on December 07, 2006, 11:02:40 PM
Who's the other one ?
Liam Moffatt i presume - he's in DCU doing physio or sports science
"The Moff" was in UCG in the mid-1990's when I was bummin around college
taking a year or two off selling jersey's for O'Neill's - he must be goin on nearly a decade in college
decent skin - I'm just jealous that my student days are over