The NI Legacy Bill

[weareros]

Lot of hypocrisy on this one. Back in 2005, Irish gov, Sinn Féin, DUP had agreed with Brits on an amnesty for everyone.

[Saffrongael]

Lot of hypocrisy on this one. Back in 2005, Irish gov, Sinn Féin, DUP had agreed with Brits on an amnesty for everyone.

Yup, people conveniently forget about the "on the run" letters

[Nanderson]

Lot of hypocrisy on this one. Back in 2005, Irish gov, Sinn Féin, DUP had agreed with Brits on an amnesty for everyone.

Yup, people conveniently forget about the "on the run" letters

What are on the run letters?

[marty34]

Forget political parties and their contradictions.
You either think victims relatives have a right to justice or you don't.

Where does it stop though? Over 3000 deaths not sure of the break down but how many were convicted and are we looking justice for all those that didn't go through the courts or that in this dirty stinking war all sides used dirty underhand tactics to murder people?

There were no ok murders and not one murder in those years has actually brought us any further, as we are still attached to the UK and with SF now in cahoots with the government for 25 years  we will actually just get a UI because of a head count!!

Was it worth it and dragging up the past all the time will that solve anything? A truth commission would have been the best way forward

The truth from the Brits?  Some chance of that!  It isn't dragging up the past, it is the present for many communities and families.

People still waiting on the truth for the disappeared

Was there truth in the south after all the people were disappeared in Cork in the 20's?

A lot lot more disappeared there than in the 6 counties.

If a Labour government comes in again, can this bill be overturned?

[general_lee]

The whole point of the legacy bill is so that the Brits don't have to tell the truth. Some families don't even want prosecutions, they just want their day in court where the facts can be put on record.

Exactly.

Be careful what you wish for.. When/if the truth comes out about how deaths could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do..

I'm not wishing for anything. I want justice for victims from all sides. Plenty of skeletons in the Republican closet and  if by some twist of fate a few shinners found themselves with egg on their faces (or rotting in jail!) then so be it.

[restorepride]

The whole point of the legacy bill is so that the Brits don't have to tell the truth. Some families don't even want prosecutions, they just want their day in court where the facts can be put on record.

Exactly.

Be careful what you wish for.. When/if the truth comes out about how deaths could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do..

For example?

[Orior]

I think we all have to move on.

Digging heels in for justice relating to crimes/events 30+ years ago will not help and highly unlikely to get the desired result.

[restorepride]

I think we all have to move on.

Digging heels in for justice relating to crimes/events 30+ years ago will not help and highly unlikely to get the desired result.

So those waiting for justice are the problem now?  Strange use of language.

[Milltown Row2]

The whole point of the legacy bill is so that the Brits don't have to tell the truth. Some families don't even want prosecutions, they just want their day in court where the facts can be put on record.

Exactly.

Be careful what you wish for.. When/if the truth comes out about how deaths could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do..

For example?

How many murders have we had no convictions? Are we looking justice for all those? And then what? Put them in prison?

[restorepride]

The whole point of the legacy bill is so that the Brits don't have to tell the truth. Some families don't even want prosecutions, they just want their day in court where the facts can be put on record.

Exactly.

Be careful what you wish for.. When/if the truth comes out about how deaths could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do..

For example?

How many murders have we had no convictions? Are we looking justice for all those? And then what? Put them in prison?

Just an example of your "could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do.." will suffice. Thanks.

[weareros]

Does this also mean the Kenova report never sees the light of day?

[Milltown Row2]

The whole point of the legacy bill is so that the Brits don't have to tell the truth. Some families don't even want prosecutions, they just want their day in court where the facts can be put on record.

Exactly.

Be careful what you wish for.. When/if the truth comes out about how deaths could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do..

For example?

How many murders have we had no convictions? Are we looking justice for all those? And then what? Put them in prison?

Just an example of your "could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do.." will suffice. Thanks.

The disappeared would be a starting point..

[restorepride]

The whole point of the legacy bill is so that the Brits don't have to tell the truth. Some families don't even want prosecutions, they just want their day in court where the facts can be put on record.

Exactly.

Be careful what you wish for.. When/if the truth comes out about how deaths could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do..

For example?

How many murders have we had no convictions? Are we looking justice for all those? And then what? Put them in prison?

Just an example of your "could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do.." will suffice. Thanks.

The disappeared would be a starting point..

Are you talking Nairic?

[Milltown Row2]

The whole point of the legacy bill is so that the Brits don't have to tell the truth. Some families don't even want prosecutions, they just want their day in court where the facts can be put on record.

Exactly.

Be careful what you wish for.. When/if the truth comes out about how deaths could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do..

For example?

How many murders have we had no convictions? Are we looking justice for all those? And then what? Put them in prison?

Just an example of your "could have been prevented by 'our own' there would be plenty of red faces about with a lot of explaining to do.." will suffice. Thanks.

The disappeared would be a starting point..

Are you talking Nairic?

Aye, he was the only one they are looking for and the ones that murdered or carried out the others have been solved and those families are happy with how it was handled...

[restorepride]