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GAA Discussion / Club league games
« on: August 02, 2021, 10:55:08 PM »
How many has ure Club played so far. In Tyrone it's 9 but I see in Fermanagh the most any club has played is 3 which is terrible.

General discussion / Massage Gun
« on: February 06, 2021, 04:28:35 PM »
Has anyone got one. Are they any good

General discussion / Coffee machine
« on: January 17, 2021, 09:00:24 PM »
Any good recommendations for a decent coffee machine. Money isn't a problem because il save it in a year. Spending a minimum of a tenner a week, sometimes twenty thas last year

General discussion / Barbecue
« on: April 27, 2019, 04:00:54 PM »
Any recommendations for a new barbecue

General discussion / Fused switch
« on: September 16, 2017, 08:56:46 PM »
Any sparks fit to tell me is it common for 13 amp fused switch (dishwasher is connected to it )to give up. Red light is vaguely flickering and the dishwasher is working fine on extension lead
Is there a simple fix to it or will it need replaced

GAA Discussion / county yearly expenses
« on: December 13, 2014, 09:36:00 PM »
The accounts presented to recent end-of-year conventions of 28 counties were made available and sourced by the Irish Independent and show a slight improvement in the overall picture for county boards.

Seven of the 28 counties analysed ran deficits compared to 11 of the 32 in 2011.

Among those who turned themselves around were Westmeath, Wexford, Kildare, Roscommon, Sligo and Antrim.

But worryingly, Tipperary and Waterford remain plunged in year-to-year deficits that they are struggling to deal with, while Kerry and Meath joined them in recording deficits well in excess of 100,000.

The GAA's finance department are constantly monitoring the financial situation of all the counties and those on any critical list can change from year to year. A presentation to the GAA's Management Committee last week gave the most recent picture of the climate throughout the country and while it was reported to have improved ever so slightly, there is still much concern that up to five counties are really struggling.

They include some of the Association's biggest hitters like Waterford and Tipperary, who continue to run up deficits, while Armagh and Sligo are also understood to be under the spotlight.


Tipperary have outlined a number of measures to deal with a spiralling deficit that has reached 650,000 over the last four years. An auditor only last week described their situation as "precarious."

A worrying development is the fall of Kerry and Meath into significant deficit on 2012 figures, with Meath dropping 230,000 on their 50,000 surplus in 2011 as gate receipts and much higher maintenance costs got them in trouble, while Kerry's gate receipts fell considerably as a deficit of 157,438 was recorded.

While there is concern in Croke Park about these counties it is not immediate as historically they have a good track record in managing their finances.

In 2011 Westmeath, Kildare, Tipperary, Waterford, Sligo, Roscommon, Antrim, Armagh, Wexford, Limerick, Fermanagh and Carlow all ran deficits on day-to-day spending.

But only three of those counties (Armagh's accounts were not available) remain in the red on day-to-day spending, with Waterford and Tipperary now the most serious worry for Croke Park.

The recent presentation to management noted a fall in local gate receipts in a majority of counties, which is impacting on income.

Once again the most pristine set of books have been presented by Cork, Tyrone and Kilkenny, who occupied the top three places on the 2011 surplus table.

But, significantly, both Cork and Tyrone, who recorded profits close to 500,000 on all activity in 2011 have dropped significantly in 2012, Cork down from 492,309 to 384,653, Tyrone slightly less as they fell from 471,240 to 388,575. This puts them top of the financial table of counties for 2012.

Kilkenny went to an All-Ireland hurling final replay and a league hurling final in a busy year, but still managed to shave off more than 7,000 in team expenses, despite their season lasting an extra three weeks.

So far, Kildare are the only county to be publicly 'bailed out,' with financial help to support day-to-day running costs coming close to 700,000 in the last year. But with direct input from Croke Park, they are now considered to be off the 'critical list.'

The GAA's finance department still consider the amounts being spent on inter-county team preparations to be far too high and see it as the main area of concern.

In 2011 some 19m was spent in this area and estimates suggest that this has only slightly fallen over the last 12 months after coming down from a peak of over 22m four years ago.



Income: 734,273

Expenditure: 714,001

Surplus: 20,272

Carlow ran the smallest deficit of the 11 counties who were in the red in 2011, so this is a significant nudge in the right direction.


Income: 3,264,394

Expenditure: 3,105,613

Surplus: 158,781

A decent surplus, but their spend on inter-county preparation was still the highest by some distance, in excess of 1.6m, despite not being in an All-Ireland football final and their early exit in the hurling championship.


Income: 1.4m

Expenditure: 1.371m

Surplus: 26,861

A surplus for the first time in six years is a small step to recovery. They face the strictest budgetary conditions of any county, with direct input from Croke Park's finance department over almost every significant financial transaction.


Income: 3,671,942 (includes ticket account)

Expenditure: 3,378,000

Surplus: 293,770

Once again they are almost Germanic in their approach to budgetary matters. Progress to an All-Ireland hurling final replay and a league final only served to improve their surplus by almost 70,000.


Income: 1,160,407

Expenditure: 1,143,637

Surplus: 16,770

Their surplus has dropped by almost 80,000, with their O'Moore Park account costing them 42,000.


Income: 701,908

Expenditure: 677,557

Surplus: 24,351

Not as bright a picture as 2011, but they have still managed to stay above water for another year.


Income: 1,129,000

Expenditure: 1,310,000

Deficit: 180,000

An alarming change, with gate receipts down by 90,000 and expenditure rising by some 185,000. Overall, a 230,000 swing in the wrong direction from a 50,000 surplus recorded in 2011.


Income: 889,638

Expenditure: 959,315

Deficit: 69,677

Hammered by depreciation of 210,982, Offaly were otherwise cost-positive with income beating expenditure by over 100,000.


Income: 1,357,367


Surplus: 236,470

From one of the smallest pools Longford once again record one of the impressive sets of results for any board. A surplus rise of almost 200,000 recorded on 2011.


Income: 584,310

Expenditure: 520,210

Surplus: 64,100

The most dramatic transformation as they left the historical issues of 2011, when they had to write off a loan to the hurling board and sponsorship money owed. Topped the deficit list in 2011 with 248,712, but are top of the class as far as the Croke Park finance department are concerned for 2012.


Income: 2,130,826.

Expenditure: 2,012,770

Surplus: 118,056

Have sorted themselves out. Twelve months ago they were in a mess, but gate receipts were up 64,000.


Income: 715,980

Expenditure: 713,265

Surplus: 2,715

Another county to stay just above water with a slight surplus on 2012 activities.



Income: 1,511,244

Expenditure: 1,489,517

Surplus: 21,727

Team expenses took a significant 110,000 jump in 2012 with the U-21 hurlers winning an All-Ireland title and the senior footballers reaching the last 12.


Income: 3,167,332

Expenditure: 2,782,679

Surplus: 384,653

With the Pairc Ui Chaoimh redevelopment imminent Cork will continue to need a surplus like this well into the future. Healthy as always.


Income: 2,567,696

Expenditure: 2,725,134

Deficit: 175,113

Team expenses came down slightly as the senior team didn't travel as far, but overall income was down 11pc while gate receipts fell by 22 pc.


Income: 1,551,299

Expenditure: 1,631612

Deficit: 80,313

On day-to-day running costs, just about broke even, but depreciation and a loan to the Gaelic Grounds pushed them into deficit.


Income: 3,851722

Expenditure: 4,096,112

Deficit: 244,390

One of the trouble spots concerning Croke Park. Stringent efforts are being made to bring financial matters under control. Among the measures decided last week were levies on local match passes and banning jersey swapping after games. In four years they have run up a deficit of 650,000.


Income: 1.09m

Expenditure: 1.31m

Deficit: 212,271

Another trouble spot that is in the process of cutting costs and re-financing. Secretary Tim O'Keeffe reported to convention that they "stood still" in 2012.



Accounts were not available at the time of going to press.


Income: 860,670

Expenditure: 802,222.

Surplus: 58,448.

Team expenses dropped below 300,000 again, so the books were easily balanced.


Income: 1,949,380

Expenditure: 1,721,983

Surplus: 227,397

Have a huge capital debt on MacHale Park but they are comfortably repaying it and generated significant improvement in fundraising in 2012.


Income: 1,424,189

Expenditure: 1,339,618

Surplus: 84,571

A big turnaround from a 50,000-plus deficit in 2011. Travel expenses remain high 13 of the 20 players used against Sligo last weekend are based outside the county.


Income: 677,640

Expenditure: 677,035

Surplus: 505

A small surplus, but one of the counties that Croke Park have concerns about after the lowest gate receipts take in 2012.



Income: 958,132 (831467)

Expenditure: 814,250 (706,606)

Surplus: 144,882

Have turned around a 46,000 deficit built up in 2011.


Accounts could not be obtained, but Armagh are one of the counties known to be of concern to Croke Park.


Income: 1,365,597

Expenditure: 1,327,439

Surplus: 38,158

Didn't enjoy the healthy surplus of other years but still comfortable.


Did not make their accounts available.


Income: 1,425,063

Expenditure: 1,294,300

Surplus: 130,763

Team expenses rose to 894,487, up by 312,000 from 2011, but they still returned a healthy surplus thanks to fundraising efforts around the All-Ireland final.


Did not make their accounts available.


Income: 766,388 (665,000)

Expenditure: 864,347 (750,000)

Deficit: 97,959

Alarm bells signalled at the county convention, where delegates expressed concern on the amount of money being spent on the county team, around 514,000 (442,000).


Income: 1,365,597

Expenditure: 1,327,439

Surplus: 38,158

Managed to comfortably balance their books.


Income: 1,409,393 (1,223,126)

Expenditure: 1,020,818 (885,936)

Surplus: 388,575

The blue chip GAA county as regards fundraising and finance in 2012. A surplus that equates to Cork, but considering the 'GAA' population of Tyrone is around 110,000 people , their results are the most impressive. The Club Tyrone machine generated 414, 246 (355,962) for the board.

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