Armagh Club football & hurling

[charlie stubbs]

would anyone have a list of the league fixtures for the year?  had them off orchard county but seem to have misplaced them.  thanks

[mhacadoir]

the middletown v St Pauls match finished 1-11 to 0-12 to Middletown

[winsamsoon]

Clans game abandoned 10 min into second half. Player badly injured cruppen were winning

[lurganblue]

Cruppin were 9 - 5 up before the game had to be stopped due to a serious injury.

Close enough game up until then. Looked like the clans were starting to come back into it. Cruppin took some very good scores and looked sharp up front. Always seemed to have a lot of options.

[illdecide]

Cruppin deservedly in the lead at half time 0-09 - 0-04, 2nd half Clans seemed to have upped their game a bit and pulled a point back to 0-09 0-05 but 8 min into 2nd half a David Kelly hit to the side of the face on Ronan Austin resulted on a broken jaw and the game abandoned due to the player out cold on the pitch waiting on an ambulance. The wait was over 30 mins and players had got cold so ref decided to call it off, on the hit itself i thought it was a very poor challenge and one I'm sure any true Gael would not be proud off.

[Ulick]

When you say hit are we talking a dig here?

[illdecide]

When you say hit are we talking a dig here?

No, shoulder into face. Not a punch (sorry should have stated that)

[winsamsoon]

Have witnessed tackles like this before in Gaelic football and i have to say they should not be acceptable in any circumstance. Didn't see last nights incident but i did witness a certain beaver doing it on Philly Oldham (who is no small lad) Oldham was out cold and actually took a fit, very frightening and a sight i wouldn't want to witness again. The fact that Kelly only got a yellow last night (from what i hear) says it all. Hope Ronan gets well soon as he hasn't had much luck on the injury front lately.


On a similiar  note i also think it is a disgrace in Gaelic football that an injured player has to lie on the field for 30 mins with little or no full medical help. This is an issue that clubs must tackle and the GAA should be trying to ensure that someone with medical background is present at all time. In the event of serious injuries the first few minutes can be crucial and you don't want someone who thinks they know what they are doing, wading in and doing something wrong. No player in the modern game should be lying on a cold surface for 30 minutes, the potential risks are endless ie shock. I think this is an issue that needs to be seriously looked at before someone dies on the field of play. I would be interested to know are the any clubs in Armagh that have a particular policy that covers this. My own club certainly doesn't and it seems like a problem that will only become an issue when someone is seriously hurt.

[illdecide]

Have witnessed tackles like this before in Gaelic football and i have to say they should not be acceptable in any circumstance. Didn't see last nights incident but i did witness a certain beaver doing it on Philly Oldham (who is no small lad) Oldham was out cold and actually took a fit, very frightening and a sight i wouldn't want to witness again. The fact that Kelly only got a yellow last night (from what i hear) says it all. Hope Ronan gets well soon as he hasn't had much luck on the injury front lately.


On a similiar  note i also think it is a disgrace in Gaelic football that an injured player has to lie on the field for 30 mins with little or no full medical help. This is an issue that clubs must tackle and the GAA should be trying to ensure that someone with medical background is present at all time. In the event of serious injuries the first few minutes can be crucial and you don't want someone who thinks they know what they are doing, wading in and doing something wrong. No player in the modern game should be lying on a cold surface for 30 minutes, the potential risks are endless ie shock. I think this is an issue that needs to be seriously looked at before someone dies on the field of play. I would be interested to know are the any clubs in Armagh that have a particular policy that covers this. My own club certainly doesn't and it seems like a problem that will only become an issue when someone is seriously hurt.

Win in fairness there was a doctor with him within minutes and he talked to medical staff from a mob phone giving his condition etc i don't know where he came from but it certainly looks like it was just concidence that he was there. You could see him lying there after about 30mins on the ground shaking with the cold (people did have him wrapped in tops etc but not enough) in saying that maybe they were not allowed to move him incase there was neck injury and made him worse. It was def not nice to see it and as you mention thats a few now that i've came across in my time and it's a few too many but unfortunately i don't think there is a whole lot you can do about it.

BTW a medical car with doctor was there within 5 minutes and an ambulance after 15 min to which they treated him for 20 mins on pitch so i have to praise them for being there so quickly

[naka]

, on the hit itself i thought it was a very poor challenge and one I'm sure any true Gael would not be proud off.

so this was an accidental challenge, dont like the insinuation that it was deliberate

[illdecide]

, on the hit itself i thought it was a very poor challenge and one I'm sure any true Gael would not be proud off.

so this was an accidental challenge, dont like the insinuation that it was deliberate

Who knows? there is only one man who can answer that and that's Kelly himself

[winsamsoon]

As i say i wasn't there but the lack of professional help present at games is a very worrying prospect

[fitzroyalty]

, on the hit itself i thought it was a very poor challenge and one I'm sure any true Gael would not be proud off.

so this was an accidental challenge, dont like the insinuation that it was deliberate

Don't know how you can accidentally shoulder somebody in the head... If you mean was there malice involved then the answer is probably not.
Regarding medical personnel, it is fortunate that this match was in Lurgan as the rapid response crowd could get there in minutes. Had it been the back arse of S.Armagh it would have meant a longer wait. Good point though as there doesn't seen to be any policy covering this issue at club level.

[thewanderer]

win spoke to someone from claneirann club who confirmed that a doctor was present and attended immediately. all other medical personnel attended asap which was great. know what u mean about having proper medical attendance at games only that order of Malta was at ogs / harps game a few years ago there could have been a fatality when a player swallowed his tongue. dont agree with the witch hunt on kelly I'm sure he didn't mean to break his jaw. may have been a rash challenge but i bet kelly regrets it now.

[IVEDECIDED]

The doctor was Sean Mac dermot who plays for Clan Eireann and was only there because they were training after the game.