Big Paul at the helm of the County team, big Joe once again gracing the sidelines of Crossmaglen Rangers, add in the history between the two and I am fearful of a deepening conflict between Cross and the County set up.
Joe has four son's on the panel, is there tension there now between them and Grimley or can we expect both men to be professional and do what's right for both the club and the county? obviously my wish is that they find common ground for the betterment of us all but knowing that there is no love lost between them I am not holding my breath.
What do you lot think about what we have going on now in the Club/County relationship and how are the players reacting to it all?
Irrelevant as neither of them will be in their posts in two years time.It was Mc Conville,Bellew etc that made Cross great,with th old hands retired you may find AI titles are few and far between.
Meanwhile Paul himself says he's only holding the fort for a 2002 member to take up the reins.
Quote from: T Fearon on April 15, 2013, 07:28:52 PM
Irrelevant as neither of them will be in their posts in two years time.It was Mc Conville,Bellew etc that made Cross great,with th old hands retired you may find AI titles are few and far between.
Meanwhile Paul himself says he's only holding the fort for a 2002 member to take up the reins.
Tone, Cross are a factory and they will be an AI contender for years to come.
It is just a shame that the two men who were at the helm when we won in 02 have no use for each other anymore, that said as long as they work with each other and not against each other we will be fine.
On another note, I think we will hammer Cavan.
When Oisin had to go off injured in semi final this year,Cross were finished.The younger brigade are nowhere near the legends.
If Joe's sons can give their all for the Armagh jersey it would indicate that there won't be a problem.
QuoteWhen Oisin had to go off injured in semi final this year,Cross were finished.The younger brigade are nowhere near the legends.
You're winding up.
If Brennan had hit the ball half straight, as he would have done 99 times of 100, Cross would have had their 3rd Merrigan with no great help from Bellew et al.
QuoteIf Joe's sons can give their all for the Armagh jersey it would indicate that there won't be a problem.
AK certainly couldn't have shown more commitment than in recent games.
Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2013, 09:47:20 PM
QuoteWhen Oisin had to go off injured in semi final this year,Cross were finished.The younger brigade are nowhere near the legends.
You're winding up.
If Brennan had hit the ball half straight, as he would have done 99 times of 100, Cross would have had their 3rd Merrigan with no great help from Bellew et al.
QuoteIf Joe's sons can give their all for the Armagh jersey it would indicate that there won't be a problem.
AK certainly couldn't have shown more commitment than in recent games.
Great point lads, from the limited games I have seen Stephen play in he is nearly as good as Aaron.
Stew,are you at a bit of sh1t stirring here. It seems like it to me. ???
AK and TK are the only ones playing for the county with the both of them leading by example. TK is beginning to show the form for Armagh that he has for Cross and when Jamie comes back that will improve as they have a great understanding. Joe will be manager for maximum 2 years, Grimley's reign will depend solely on this years championship. There will be no issue in regards to the county and club this year as Cross don't play in the championship till September and by that stage Armagh will not be involved.
Tony, I can tell you here and now that the current team and the talent that will be added to it over the next 4-6 years will be strong enough to dominate just as much as we did. As Armaghniac stated Kyle Brennan scores and Andy is back home again. There is enough hurt in the lads to drive them on even further again.
Quote from: JUst retired on April 16, 2013, 08:28:45 AM
Stew,are you at a bit of sh1t stirring here. It seems like it to me. ???
Hell no, why would I do that about the men that brought us an AI title?
Bc1,it's a matter of conjecture.But after Portadown Tir Na Nog's great away win on Sunday in Madden,I think it's only a matter of time before we are the dominant force in Armagh! ;D
You are early on the soup this week TF!! When was the last time Armagh beat Cavan in Breffni in Ulster championship?
2008,and they went on to win their last Ulster title.
I asked this on the Armagh vs. Cavan thread, but I was wondering if Jamie Clarke will be in good enough shape to help the county right away after he returns from his Louise and Clarke expedition. Maybe Jamie playing in 3-minute bursts will be enough to stick the ball in the net. Also, I like Tony Kernan, but if he plays and Jamie plays, who has to sit?
Quote2008,and they went on to win their last Ulster title.
Would have preferred if you had used 'latest' rather than 'last' Ulster title ... Hope you don't know something the rest of us don't ...
Last time they won it,not the last ever. ;D If memory serves me right,Cavan haven't beaten Armagh in the Championship since 1978.
Quote from: Oraisteach on April 16, 2013, 09:48:58 PM
I asked this on the Armagh vs. Cavan thread, but I was wondering if Jamie Clarke will be in good enough shape to help the county right away after he returns from his Louise and Clarke expedition. Maybe Jamie playing in 3-minute bursts will be enough to stick the ball in the net. Also, I like Tony Kernan, but if he plays and Jamie plays, who has to sit?
Jamie will be back shortly and will be in good enough shape. He looks after himself and is not a big party man,much prefers the mochas to the mojitos! He was in fine shape returning from NY last year and that was on a lads break.
It is really a toss up between Johnnny Waah TK, Mallon and McParland for 2 spots. Tactically Iwould be inclined to start the 2 Cross lads as they would workvery hard for 40 to 45 minutes and win a lot of lose dirty ball. As the play opens up going into the last 15 minutes I think Mallon and McParland would get a lot of joy from the space being created.
QuoteJamie will be back shortly and will be in good enough shape. He looks after himself and is not a big party man,much prefers the mochas to the mojitos
Sure he was probably running about 3000m up in the Andes, the air in Breffni Park will be like rocket fuel.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 16, 2013, 10:24:43 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on April 16, 2013, 09:48:58 PM
I asked this on the Armagh vs. Cavan thread, but I was wondering if Jamie Clarke will be in good enough shape to help the county right away after he returns from his Louise and Clarke expedition. Maybe Jamie playing in 3-minute bursts will be enough to stick the ball in the net. Also, I like Tony Kernan, but if he plays and Jamie plays, who has to sit?
Jamie will be back shortly and will be in good enough shape. He looks after himself and is not a big party man,much prefers the mochas to the mojitos! He was in fine shape returning from NY last year and that was on a lads break.
It is really a toss up between Johnnny Waah TK, Mallon and McParland for 2 spots. Tactically Iwould be inclined to start the 2 Cross lads as they would workvery hard for 40 to 45 minutes and win a lot of lose dirty ball. As the play opens up going into the last 15 minutes I think Mallon and McParland would get a lot of joy from the space being created.
Hanratty won't be on the championship team - nor should he be. If the national league has shown us anything it is that he's a very good club footballer on his day but short at county level.
Here is my take on the Championship 15! Any opinions??
1. P Mc Evoy
2. J Morgan
3. B Donaghy
4. P Mc Keown
5. A Kernan
6. K Mc Keever
7. F Moriarity
8. K toner/J Lavery
9. S Harold
10. C Rafferty/T Kernan
11. C Vernon
12. K Dyas
13. G Mc Parland
14. S Forker
15. J Clarke
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 17, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 16, 2013, 10:24:43 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on April 16, 2013, 09:48:58 PM
I asked this on the Armagh vs. Cavan thread, but I was wondering if Jamie Clarke will be in good enough shape to help the county right away after he returns from his Louise and Clarke expedition. Maybe Jamie playing in 3-minute bursts will be enough to stick the ball in the net. Also, I like Tony Kernan, but if he plays and Jamie plays, who has to sit?
Jamie will be back shortly and will be in good enough shape. He looks after himself and is not a big party man,much prefers the mochas to the mojitos! He was in fine shape returning from NY last year and that was on a lads break.
It is really a toss up between Johnnny Waah TK, Mallon and McParland for 2 spots. Tactically Iwould be inclined to start the 2 Cross lads as they would workvery hard for 40 to 45 minutes and win a lot of lose dirty ball. As the play opens up going into the last 15 minutes I think Mallon and McParland would get a lot of joy from the space being created.
Hanratty won't be on the championship team - nor should he be. If the national league has shown us anything it is that he's a very good club footballer on his day but short at county level.
It's all about opinions I suppose, I know he has more in him than he showed during the league games. He has got his head down now and working hard on his game.
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 17, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
Here is my take on the Championship 15! Any opinions??
1. P Mc Evoy
2. J Morgan
3. B Donaghy
4. P Mc Keown
5. A Kernan
6. K Mc Keever
7. F Moriarity
8. K toner/J Lavery
9. S Harold
10. C Rafferty/T Kernan
11. C Vernon
12. K Dyas
13. G Mc Parland
14. S Forker
15. J Clarke
Vernon has a broken bone in his foot so is unlikely to be fit.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 17, 2013, 09:43:19 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 17, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 16, 2013, 10:24:43 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on April 16, 2013, 09:48:58 PM
I asked this on the Armagh vs. Cavan thread, but I was wondering if Jamie Clarke will be in good enough shape to help the county right away after he returns from his Louise and Clarke expedition. Maybe Jamie playing in 3-minute bursts will be enough to stick the ball in the net. Also, I like Tony Kernan, but if he plays and Jamie plays, who has to sit?
Jamie will be back shortly and will be in good enough shape. He looks after himself and is not a big party man,much prefers the mochas to the mojitos! He was in fine shape returning from NY last year and that was on a lads break.
It is really a toss up between Johnnny Waah TK, Mallon and McParland for 2 spots. Tactically Iwould be inclined to start the 2 Cross lads as they would workvery hard for 40 to 45 minutes and win a lot of lose dirty ball. As the play opens up going into the last 15 minutes I think Mallon and McParland would get a lot of joy from the space being created.
Hanratty won't be on the championship team - nor should he be. If the national league has shown us anything it is that he's a very good club footballer on his day but short at county level.
It's all about opinions I suppose, I know he has more in him than he showed during the league games. He has got his head down now and working hard on his game.
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 17, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
Here is my take on the Championship 15! Any opinions??
1. P Mc Evoy
2. J Morgan
3. B Donaghy
4. P Mc Keown
5. A Kernan
6. K Mc Keever
7. F Moriarity
8. K toner/J Lavery
9. S Harold
10. C Rafferty/T Kernan
11. C Vernon
12. K Dyas
13. G Mc Parland
14. S Forker
15. J Clarke
Vernon has a broken bone in his foot so is unlikely to be fit.
Never heard, thats a bad blow to him after just getting back from injury, wish him a spedy recovery.
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 17, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
Here is my take on the Championship 15! Any opinions??
1. P Mc Evoy - Yeah.
2. J Morgan - Yeah.
3. B Donaghy - Yeah.
4. P Mc Keown - Shields has as good a shout for this spot.
5. A Kernan - Yeah.
6. K Mc Keever - Will play at 7.
7. F Moriarity - An option for 6, but probably behind Toner and McKenna.
8. K toner/J Lavery - Lavery will definitely play.
9. S Harold - Yeah.
10. C Rafferty/T Kernan - Rafferty will definitely play.
11. C Vernon - As has been said, he's injured. A Forker would be my choice for this spot. Hanratty, Mallon and even E Rafferty could come into the mix.
12. K Dyas - Yeah.
13. G Mc Parland - Probably played himself out of the team in the last couple of league games. T Kernan looking a lot more likely.
14. S Forker - Yeah.
15. J Clarke - Yeah.