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#19201
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
January 17, 2017, 07:43:59 PM
#19202
Quote from: armaghniac on January 17, 2017, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: Franko on January 17, 2017, 01:51:24 PM
That's an interesting graphic.  I'm surprised at how well the 26 (or should I say Dublin, Kildare & Munster) fare here.

of course GDP may overstate things a bit. However, this was 2014, things in Leinster and Munster have improved since then and NI will fall a bit as Sterling goes down the toilet.
The North has been going nowhere for years. It never recovered from.the war.
#19203
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
January 17, 2017, 05:19:22 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 17, 2017, 04:37:36 PM
Obama told the Brits they'd be at the back of the line in terms of a trade deal.

Trump will put them at the front of the line

Trumps victory dramatically changes the potential fallout from Brexit
Yeah. Trump will pay off the deficit
#19204
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
January 17, 2017, 03:32:57 PM
The DUP are for the birds
   
   https://www.ft.com/content/3d0fdb18-d97b-11e6-944b-e7eb37a6aa8e

   Mrs May has pledged that "there will be no return to the borders of the past" in Ireland. But officials in Dublin say they will remain sceptical until she reveals more on how Northern Ireland will fare after the UK formally leaves the EU. It was set to receive €3.4bn from EU budget funding between 2014 and 2020; some of that aid from Brussels is now in jeopardy.
#19205
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
January 17, 2017, 03:21:57 PM
UKIP had 2 key policies at the last election. 1 get the UK out of the EU 2 bring back grammar schools
The Tories adopted both


Nigel Farage

@Nigel_Farage
I can hardly believe that the PM is now using the phrases and words that I've been mocked for using for years. Real progress
#19206
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
January 17, 2017, 03:19:20 PM
Peter Grant, the SNP MP and a member of the Commons select committee for exiting the European Union, has signalled that the SNP will push for another vote. Speaking in the House of Commons he warned David Davis that government plans for the UK tol leave the single market leaves Scotland with no choice but to seek independence
If the prime minister leaves Scotland with only one option to remain in the EU, Scotland will take it
He reminds MPs that 62 per cent of Scots voted to remain part of the EU in the referendum last year.
#19207
Quote from: heganboy on January 17, 2017, 01:25:10 PM
this is about to get interesting. NI just became a Brexit bargaining chip.

Let's see where this goes...
NI is considerably behind Leinster and Munster as it is. Brexit will exacerbate the difference

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/d/da/Gross_domestic_product_%28GDP%29_per_inhabitant_in_purchasing_power_standard_%28PPS%29_in_relation_to_the_EU-28_average%2C_by_NUTS_2_regions%2C_2014_%28%C2%B9%29_%28%25_of_the_EU-28_average%2C_EU-28_%3D_100%29_RYB2016.png

James Craig must be spinning

"The hon. Member must remember that in the South they boasted of a Catholic State. They still boast of Southern Ireland being a Catholic State. All I boast of is that we are a Protestant Parliament and a Protestant State. It would be rather interesting for historians of the future to compare a Catholic State launched in the South with a Protestant State launched in the North and to see which gets on the better and prospers the more. It is most interesting for me at the moment to watch how they are progressing. I am doing my best always to top the bill and to be ahead of the South."
#19208
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
January 17, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
Danny McCoy, chief executive of Ibec, said:

The possibility of the UK leaving both the single market and the customs union raises fundamental questions about Ireland's future trading relations with the UK. A return to WTO rules would be a significant economic shock to the economy and would hit Irish exporters hard. It would also set the UK and Ireland on very different economic trajectories. In the interest of maintaining good business relations, it is vital that the UK Government sets out in more detail how the serious challenges presented by a hard Brexit might be addressed, including the impact on cross border trade on the island of Ireland.
This is an aggressive move by the UK, showing little regard for our trading relationship and for relations with other EU member states. Theresa May has signalled a change to the UK business model, away from a collective European rules-based approach, towards a more nationalistic, isolated stance. This is likely to lead to a protracted and unwelcome period of uncertainty and instability for business. Ireland is uniquely exposed to the risks given out deep economic ties with the UK.
#19210
Quote from: armaghniac on January 17, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on January 09, 2017, 10:19:31 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 08, 2017, 07:29:07 PM
I am not suggesting for one moment there was not widespread discrimination,gerrymandering in the North but I think its effects were over estimated.My parents were of the opinion that there was work of some description always for those who wanted it.As I've said before the middle classes of all hues were exempt from discrimination,Portadown like everywhere else always had its fair share of Catholic professionals and business people who started and grew businesses and lived in the leafy suburbs.

Much the same as the Protestant middle classes in the South I expect.

Seafoid there will be no hard Brexit,despite the bluster.As experienced commentator Alex Kane up here said last week,the Brexit will be so soft (assuming it goes ahead at all) that it will be unnoticeable
Well your Parents were wrong

It looks like Alex Kane was wrong too, unless the whole thing unravels, which is still a possibility.
Brexit is really f**king stupid so it may be revoked

Thatcherism has pauperised huge chunks of England and they reciprocated via a f**k off vote in favour of Brexit
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/File:Gross_domestic_product_(GDP)_per_inhabitant_in_purchasing_power_standard_(PPS)_in_relation_to_the_EU-28_average,_by_NUTS_2_regions,_2014_(%C2%B9)_(%25_of_the_EU-28_average,_EU-28_%3D_100)_RYB2016.png
#19211
Zobi la mouche by les negresses vertes remix by William Orbit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOqIda9kMPI
#19212
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
January 17, 2017, 12:21:07 PM
The Tory manifesto of 2015 was very clear about staying in the single market.
"We say: yes to the Single Market."
#19213
Below age 40 nationalists outweigh unionists. But in voting ages Unionist out number nationalists.
This might be the case for another 20 years. But the demographics seem to be relentless.
#19214
Quote from: T Fearon on January 16, 2017, 10:57:45 PM
New parties and new faces required to make a difference to move away from tribalism and the totally stupid preoccupation with the obsolete philosophies of Unionism and Nationalism.
Also new genders. Think how making the trans journey as a society could change NI for the better. And create a truly unique NI and thus fulfil the Fearon scripture.
#19215
Quote from: whitey on January 16, 2017, 02:55:08 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on January 16, 2017, 02:46:54 PM
So if it doesn't appeal to Republicans it ain't funny? Or it doesn't matter? And if it doesn't matter, and no one you know watches it, what are you banging on about?

I think Republicans aren't funny. But they do matter.

However, you mustn't be a Republican, because all your twisted and turned comments (persecuted again, Whitey?) are hilarious.

I'll use up one of my "lol's" just for you

In spite of what SNL and the MSM may tell you conservatism is alive and well and thriving

As much as I dislike Trump personally, I think he might actually do a decent job.

Dems are very much like the Labour Party in England....they have lots to say to those on the fringes but shag all to say to the people "humping it 60 hours a week" (to quote Bill Clinton)
Asslicking the ultra rich and Israel is not conservatism