Peter Robinson steps down as First Minister!

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screenexile

How long until we have this majority?

The European elections showed it still about 62%-38% in favour of Unionists so realistically will it not be a long time until the Nationalists/Republicans have our way?!

lynchbhoy

Quote from: screenexile on June 04, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
How long until we have this majority?

The European elections showed it still about 62%-38% in favour of Unionists so realistically will it not be a long time until the Nationalists/Republicans have our way?!
sure a few decades ago it was 100% - 0% in favour of the unionist voters !!!!

a large number of this majority are quite/very old.
and just as you cant hurry love- you cant kill off these old dinosaurs either

its a waiting game. also the economic situation has to be right before the next part of that can be done too...

but in time it all will happen.
..........

Nally Stand

Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 04:13:17 PM
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Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Mandated to do so regardless of who is leader of the other largest party. What's your alternative?
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pull it down at the first available opportunity, if SF become the biggest party at the next general election as expected the DUP will pull it down regardless, there is no way they will accept a sf first minister. Joint rule with the Irish and brit governments, with an increased mandate in the south you may be able to exert more influence.

Pull the plug on the assembly despite being mandated to share power by a vast majority? And unionists will happily go for being jointly ruled by Dublin as the alternative? FFS even direct rule from London was described by the DUP's Simon Hamilton as being too close to Dublin, or to use his phrase: "Direct Rule is Dublin Rule".

As the late Brian Keenan said, wishlists are for Christmas. Have you any realistic alternatives?

SF have failed to deliver, irrespective of mandates.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/well-have-a-united-ireland-by-2016-says-mcguinness-25922555.html

"Irrespective of mandates"? Again, a bit of an over simplified, head-in-the-sand comment Charlie. We just had an election where the parties supportive of power sharing were the parties with the vast majority of support. So don't be ducking the issue. Have you any non-wish list alternatives you can suggest?
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

charlieTully

Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 04:48:42 PM
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Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Mandated to do so regardless of who is leader of the other largest party. What's your alternative?
?

pull it down at the first available opportunity, if SF become the biggest party at the next general election as expected the DUP will pull it down regardless, there is no way they will accept a sf first minister. Joint rule with the Irish and brit governments, with an increased mandate in the south you may be able to exert more influence.

Pull the plug on the assembly despite being mandated to share power by a vast majority? And unionists will happily go for being jointly ruled by Dublin as the alternative? FFS even direct rule from London was described by the DUP's Simon Hamilton as being too close to Dublin, or to use his phrase: "Direct Rule is Dublin Rule".

As the late Brian Keenan said, wishlists are for Christmas. Have you any realistic alternatives?

SF have failed to deliver, irrespective of mandates.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/well-have-a-united-ireland-by-2016-says-mcguinness-25922555.html

"Irrespective of mandates"? Again, a bit of an over simplified, head-in-the-sand comment Charlie. We just had an election where the parties supportive of power sharing were the parties with the vast majority of support. So don't be ducking the issue. Have you any non-wish list alternatives you can suggest?

I have already mentioned an alternative, was Martins dream of a UI by 2016 a wish list? if its good enough for Martin. Has Stormont worked? Are you content as Lynchboy says to continue treading water until we are in a majority here?,

Nally Stand

Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 04:55:55 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 04:48:42 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 04:13:17 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 02:52:07 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 01:22:14 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Mandated to do so regardless of who is leader of the other largest party. What's your alternative?
?

pull it down at the first available opportunity, if SF become the biggest party at the next general election as expected the DUP will pull it down regardless, there is no way they will accept a sf first minister. Joint rule with the Irish and brit governments, with an increased mandate in the south you may be able to exert more influence.

Pull the plug on the assembly despite being mandated to share power by a vast majority? And unionists will happily go for being jointly ruled by Dublin as the alternative? FFS even direct rule from London was described by the DUP's Simon Hamilton as being too close to Dublin, or to use his phrase: "Direct Rule is Dublin Rule".

As the late Brian Keenan said, wishlists are for Christmas. Have you any realistic alternatives?

SF have failed to deliver, irrespective of mandates.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/well-have-a-united-ireland-by-2016-says-mcguinness-25922555.html

"Irrespective of mandates"? Again, a bit of an over simplified, head-in-the-sand comment Charlie. We just had an election where the parties supportive of power sharing were the parties with the vast majority of support. So don't be ducking the issue. Have you any non-wish list alternatives you can suggest?

I have already mentioned an alternative, was Martins dream of a UI by 2016 a wish list? if its good enough for Martin. Has Stormont worked? Are you content as Lynchboy says to continue treading water until we are in a majority here?,
What you have done is provide an eleven year old news article. I'm sure Martin McGuinness doesn't believe today that there'll be a reunited Ireland by 2016. Which should tell you something about how useful wish lists are. Your joint sovereignty idea is just straight off a wish list. It's not going to happen, so what else have you got? Other than waiting for a majority and building political strength across the island, I see no other realistic alternative. And you are certainly not providing any (as tends to be the case with a lot of SF's most vocal republican critics).
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

EC Unique

Quote from: screenexile on June 04, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
How long until we have this majority?

The European elections showed it still about 62%-38% in favour of Unionists so realistically will it not be a long time until the Nationalists/Republicans have our way?!

The first minister comes from the largest party so that could very well happen in the next election.

Saffrongael

Quote from: EC Unique on June 04, 2014, 06:52:57 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 04, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
How long until we have this majority?

The European elections showed it still about 62%-38% in favour of Unionists so realistically will it not be a long time until the Nationalists/Republicans have our way?!

The first minister comes from the largest party so that could very well happen in the next election.

And what difference will that make? Unionists still come out on force to vote when they have to. Sure Shinners had been describing McGuinness as "joint First Minister" for a while there. No doubt they will make a massive deal of being FM as reunification is as far away as ever.
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All of a Sludden

Quote from: EC Unique on June 04, 2014, 06:52:57 PM
The first minister comes from the largest party so that could very well happen in the next election.

Will MMG stay on to be the first minister of British rule or will he quietly shuffle off with a tap on the shoulder from his old friend Lilly Windsor. Lord Bogside.
I'm gonna show you as gently as I can how much you don't know.

orangeman

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A Belfast pastor who called Islam "heathen" and "satanic" spent almost two hours at a police station on Friday being questioned about his remarks.

imtommygunn

There's an article in the belfast telegraph today about how edwin poots says the dup should appeal to right wing catholic voters. I haven't read it but the gist seemed to be about how they represent religious views etc.

muppet

Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2014, 02:02:52 PM
There's an article in the belfast telegraph today about how edwin poots says the dup should appeal to right wing catholic voters. I haven't read it but the gist seemed to be about how they represent religious views etc.

Judging by a couple of comments on the Tuam thread, they might have a lot in common.
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A man assaulted earlier in Sliabh Dubh are of West Belfast, police treating as "racially motivated hate crime".

armaghniac

Quote from: Kidder81 on June 09, 2014, 09:47:57 PM
A man assaulted earlier in Sliabh Dubh are of West Belfast, police treating as "racially motivated hate crime".

No whites in Sliabh Dubh?
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Maguire01

Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2014, 02:02:52 PM
There's an article in the belfast telegraph today about how edwin poots says the dup should appeal to right wing catholic voters. I haven't read it but the gist seemed to be about how they represent religious views etc.
That's been a line for some time now.