Peter Robinson steps down as First Minister!

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charlieTully

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur, a man so hungry for power that he cut paisley off at the knees and has continuously shown that he's not fit to lead our community as a whole. What other politician loses their MP status and stays as party header. The quicker Arlene gets in the better, no doubt Nigel has aspirations at the top job (god help us).

This country will struggle to move  on until there is some real leadership for the loyalists. They got away with hatred for so long its intwined in their communities. I work with a few "loyalists" and get on perfectly well with them. We've been chatting about the world Cup recently and I was amazed at their attitude regarding south American countries, the 1st thing 2 of the lads said was 'Brazil that's full of catholics', I said 'what do you mean I thought it was full of Brazilians' somewhat winding him, to which he replied 'you know like Spain and Italy'.

One if the lads in work goes out with a Catholic girl from Camlough, I asked him did he get any shit from from his mates, he said 'no just slagging but my da cracked up and my granny wont speak to me'.:-/

I tried to get him to come to the Athletic Grounds this week as he enjoyed the Down/Tyrone game on TV, he politely refused but did mention WTF was the commentator on about a black card, he never shut up about it. the joys if sidebottom  :-[

trust me, I am no fan of loyalism or the DUP, I grew up in a loyalist town and have seen their hatred first hand, I think a public apology was necessary for this situtation to be resolved, he could have continued to dig his heels in but he hasnt.

charlieTully

Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

thebigfella

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur, a man so hungry for power that he cut paisley off at the knees and has continuously shown that he's not fit to lead our community as a whole. What other politician loses their MP status and stays as party header. The quicker Arlene gets in the better, no doubt Nigel has aspirations at the top job (god help us).

This country will struggle to move  on until there is some real leadership for the loyalists. They got away with hatred for so long its intwined in their communities. I work with a few "loyalists" and get on perfectly well with them. We've been chatting about the world Cup recently and I was amazed at their attitude regarding south American countries, the 1st thing 2 of the lads said was 'Brazil that's full of catholics', I said 'what do you mean I thought it was full of Brazilians' somewhat winding him, to which he replied 'you know like Spain and Italy'.

One if the lads in work goes out with a Catholic girl from Camlough, I asked him did he get any shit from from his mates, he said 'no just slagging but my da cracked up and my granny wont speak to me'.:-/

I tried to get him to come to the Athletic Grounds this week as he enjoyed the Down/Tyrone game on TV, he politely refused but did mention WTF was the commentator on about a black card, he never shut up about it. the joys if sidebottom  :-[

That would be enough to turn anyone to hard core loyalism.

glens abu

Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Happy!!!! how do you work that out,do you really think SF are happy sitting with party who obstruct every attempt to move things foward in this place.What do you think SF should do,bring power sharing down?

Nally Stand

Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Mandated to do so regardless of who is leader of the other largest party. What's your alternative?
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

Nally Stand

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on June 04, 2014, 10:33:46 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Is there a video of the smug look being wiped of her face?

Not on youtube unfortunately!
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

charlieTully

Quote from: glens abu on June 04, 2014, 11:34:49 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Happy!!!! how do you work that out,do you really think SF are happy sitting with party who obstruct every attempt to move things foward in this place.What do you think SF should do,bring power sharing down?

why not? could it be any worse? sure the whole thing is at constant loggerheads, nothing is ever achieved, except of course the eternal junkets abroad, sorry i almost forgot, Marty got to meet the queen. At least there was that.

glens abu

Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 11:59:03 AM
Quote from: glens abu on June 04, 2014, 11:34:49 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Happy!!!! how do you work that out,do you really think SF are happy sitting with party who obstruct every attempt to move things foward in this place.What do you think SF should do,bring power sharing down?

why not? could it be any worse? sure the whole thing is at constant loggerheads, nothing is ever achieved, except of course the eternal junkets abroad, sorry i almost forgot, Marty got to meet the queen. At least there was that.

Ah right so its the junkets and Marty meeting the Queen that annoys you.Good man, well you will have to leave it to the electorate to decide what they want and as a few weeks ago they voted in large numbers for SF to keep on the course they are on so you will have to live with it.  ;)

charlieTully

Quote from: glens abu on June 04, 2014, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 11:59:03 AM
Quote from: glens abu on June 04, 2014, 11:34:49 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Happy!!!! how do you work that out,do you really think SF are happy sitting with party who obstruct every attempt to move things foward in this place.What do you think SF should do,bring power sharing down?

why not? could it be any worse? sure the whole thing is at constant loggerheads, nothing is ever achieved, except of course the eternal junkets abroad, sorry i almost forgot, Marty got to meet the queen. At least there was that.

Ah right so its the junkets and Marty meeting the Queen that annoys you.Good man, well you will have to leave it to the electorate to decide what they want and as a few weeks ago they voted in large numbers for SF to keep on the course they are on so you will have to live with it.  ;)

by your own admission SF shares power with a party that obstructs every attemt to move things forward, why continue with this if it clearly isnt working?

Nally Stand

Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Mandated to do so regardless of who is leader of the other largest party. What's your alternative?
?
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

charlieTully

Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Mandated to do so regardless of who is leader of the other largest party. What's your alternative?
?

pull it down at the first available opportunity, if SF become the biggest party at the next general election as expected the DUP will pull it down regardless, there is no way they will accept a sf first minister. Joint rule with the Irish and brit governments, with an increased mandate in the south you may be able to exert more influence.

Apparently so

This so called government in the North has acheived absolutely f**k all since the Good Friday Agreement. It should be done away with and direct rule shared by Dublin and London. It couldn't be any worse than this pish. I always hear shinners say they will soon have the majority in the north and their own first minister. Do you's honestly think the DUP and the rest will sit back and allow that? Will they f**k. As soon as it happens, we'll be back to war. Sinn Fein are far too soft with the unionists imo. We're fucked either way tbh. I'm no supporter of the so called dissidents, the majority of them are stupid bastards using republicanism to line their pockets but there are some who are keeping a fight going whether it is through armed actions or through political action. Sinn Fein are going to be the ruin of republicanism

Nally Stand

Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 01:22:14 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Mandated to do so regardless of who is leader of the other largest party. What's your alternative?
?

pull it down at the first available opportunity, if SF become the biggest party at the next general election as expected the DUP will pull it down regardless, there is no way they will accept a sf first minister. Joint rule with the Irish and brit governments, with an increased mandate in the south you may be able to exert more influence.

Pull the plug on the assembly despite being mandated to share power by a vast majority? And unionists will happily go for being jointly ruled by Dublin as the alternative? FFS even direct rule from London was described by the DUP's Simon Hamilton as being too close to Dublin, or to use his phrase: "Direct Rule is Dublin Rule".

As the late Brian Keenan said, wishlists are for Christmas. Have you any realistic alternatives?
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

lynchbhoy

sf have no alternative (and none seems to be offered here) on power sharing with the unionist/loyalists.

at least its 'sharing' and not the two tiered system of not so long ago.

when the pendulum swings and sf/nationalists have the elected majority, then having played the game and remained in gov in the six counties as the junior party, it can be pointed out to unionist/loyalist parties that they must do the same.

some will go mad. some will look to fight, but without the backing of brit army, they are just a group of rioting rabble, incapable of actual fighting. those who were old enough to offer some militant resistance in the 70's/80's will be too old, and the younger generation are either youthful anti social idiots or not capable of 'fight'.
id not be too worried to be honest.


there is no real power in Stormont assembly, and it continues just to keep the peace.
no ground can be covered from GFA until reunification/6 county abdication by brit gov as there needs to be a big population electorate swing.
having the assembly keeps treading water and fudges any chance of a row/fight. this is going to continue until it is decision day.

when that day comes, as I said, it will be so long down the road for former unionist/loyalist militants, that they will be incapable of offering up any real resistance.

also the southern system will be ready to take over the north and money coming from brit gov for the pleasure as well as prob some EU funding. This money will be pumped into the flashpoint areas and thus appeasing any fractious minds.


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charlieTully

Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 02:52:07 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 01:22:14 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 04, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 04, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur
+1. A dangerous individual.

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
The quicker Arlene gets in the better
-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

Hard to take your comments seriously Nally with all due respect, SF are happy enough to share the top table with them.

Mandated to do so regardless of who is leader of the other largest party. What's your alternative?
?

pull it down at the first available opportunity, if SF become the biggest party at the next general election as expected the DUP will pull it down regardless, there is no way they will accept a sf first minister. Joint rule with the Irish and brit governments, with an increased mandate in the south you may be able to exert more influence.

Pull the plug on the assembly despite being mandated to share power by a vast majority? And unionists will happily go for being jointly ruled by Dublin as the alternative? FFS even direct rule from London was described by the DUP's Simon Hamilton as being too close to Dublin, or to use his phrase: "Direct Rule is Dublin Rule".

As the late Brian Keenan said, wishlists are for Christmas. Have you any realistic alternatives?

SF have failed to deliver, irrespective of mandates.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/well-have-a-united-ireland-by-2016-says-mcguinness-25922555.html