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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Last post by downjim on Today at 11:16:24 AM »
Bad PR that went wrong.

I will be watching the champions league and Iíve no doubt it will be shown in our club after the match but I would cringe to think we would advertise that on social media.

Any team news for Saturday btw?? OíHanlon definitely out??
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Must be a long time ago. I can't remember beating Meath in Tullamore in recent times. Our record there is terrible.

July 2012 ...1-15 to 1-12 I think....Munnelly had a stormer as did Brendan Quigley we got to the quarter finals that year!



Was racking my brain trying to think of the game as it wasnt registering, remember it now. Was round 4 of the qualifiers i think, they had just lost the Leinster Final to Dublin and we were flying that day from what i recall. Let them back into it after being something like 8 points up at one stage in the second half.
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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« Last post by gallsman on Today at 11:01:03 AM »
I was interested in Rudi's claim about Iceland, turns out its pretty much true, not quiet but it seems that IF people find out about their child having DS then they terminate

from 2007 to 2015 every single pregnant woman in Iceland terminated a fetus with Down syndrome following a positive diagnosis

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/behind-the-lens-disappearing-down-syndrome/ you

Another tough one to call, its very different finding out after 3 months to actually having the baby and then finding out

Well no, his post was utter bollocks.

He claimed, as absolute fact, that the youngest person in Iceland with Down's Syndrome was 20. Zero evidence provided. There's no "pretty much true" here at all. He's 100% wrong.

He also claimed that "Clearly they have a cultural policy to eliminate the weakest or those who do not conform to some ideal model" despite the fact it is obvious that each case is an individual decision a) to get the test and then b) to decide whether to terminate or not.

He also then completely whiffed on the nature of Savita Halapanavar's death.
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by Christmas Lights on Today at 11:00:37 AM »
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players wonít say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasnít able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and OíNeill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I donít know of any club that does this.

Prayers before games???  Whats this about??

The players are encouraged/forced to take part in the rosary before games. McCarron talked about it in his book and I think McNamee done an interview on it last summer - maybe around the Dublin game if I remember correctly.

Is there anything to be said for another Mass?  Thats shocking to be fair if true....what about guys on the panel who maybe are not religious at all?
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by Oghams Law on Today at 10:58:59 AM »
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players wonít say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasnít able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and OíNeill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I donít know of any club that does this.

Prayers before games???  Whats this about??

Sunday - the sorrowful mysteries.

This can't be true. Sure what if a lad was from another faith or from none at all? No manager would risk putting a player in that kind of position.
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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Monaghan, Sun 20th May, Healy Park
« Last post by Unlaoised on Today at 10:51:32 AM »
Watched full game on the BBC player last night I thought Monaghan were full value for their win but they did get the rub of the green on a few calls expect that Morgan should have got his marching orders!
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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« Last post by BennyCake on Today at 10:47:33 AM »
Not showing McManus's point (which is probably the score of the year) is incredible

The coverage is just so bad it's not even funny!

As for Spallane and Whelan ...Guff!!!

I used to look forward to the Sunday game now its a chore to watch it

They didn't show McManus point? Didn't notice that.

You're right though. TSG is brutal viewing.
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by longballin on Today at 10:41:18 AM »
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players wonít say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasnít able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and OíNeill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I donít know of any club that does this.

Prayers before games???  Whats this about??

Sunday - the sorrowful mysteries.
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People are naming players that are missing off the panel from previous years and are just assuming that the players themselves have omitted themselves from the panel, things aren't always as they seem. KMcG needs to take a look at himself...
A lot of talk about Armagh not having the best players in the county on the pitch.  Would anyone care to name an alternative Armagh 15 that either didn't start on Saturday or are not on the panel.

Whatever about an alternative 15 the following players would be on the team in my opinion. Some are out through injury and Iím not including Jamie. James Morgan, paul Hughes, Rian and OisŪn O Neill, Decky McKenna, Mickey Murray Cullyhanna and Stefan Campbell. Thatís half a team and if those 7 were playing the team would be significantly better.
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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Monaghan, Sun 20th May, Healy Park
« Last post by trileacman on Today at 10:34:17 AM »
Iíve seen us rode out of championship with tougher refs so I can have no complaints with the ref. He let a fair bit go but was equal in his treatment of both sides. Thatís exactly what you want. Iíd have to say the game was refereed excellently.

Wylie and Morgan both could have walked. Burns had a neck high pull down in the 1st half that could have been black with a sissy ref. Dessie Ward ran into the defence a few times and won nothing. Likewise Karl o Connell or Duffy at the far end ran 60 metres and was bundled over late in the 2nd half and got nothing. Burns in the 1st half done exactly the same thing and got no free, both defences rode their luck..

The only thing I could say he missed was the abuse directed at Harte off the ball. You could see Colm Cavanagh remonstrate with the sideline official at the end of the 1st half about it and it was clearly a pre planned tactic to disrupt Peter. Not saying we didnít do the same, Iím sure Skeet and cathal has plenty to say all day but itís a factor of the game Iíd like stamped out especially when itís all going one way.
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