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"We're audited by Deloitte, a big four firm"

A telltale sign of an outfit with too much money

Yeah, better to get a small time crowd that won't raise too much suspicion. Damned if you do and all that.

Google "auditing scandals" and you'll find Deloitte way ahead of any "small time crowd".

Trying to figure out how to reply to that. Could you explain what point you're making with that post please?

It's hardly cryptic.

Definitely not, just nonsensical.

An auditing scandal, as you might define it, is likely to have involved one of the big five accountancy firms as, to merit it being a scandal, it would probably need to involve an entity who engages a firm of such a size.

By your logic, the GPA shouldn't use one of these firms because they have been or are more likely to have been involved in a scandal. You seem to be suggesting (in the absence of you explaining your post) that the GPA would be better off hiring a small firm of accountants who haven't been found to be in a scandal as they're not large enough to make such headlines.

Or maybe there's something cryptic in there after all?

"We're audited by Deloitte, a big four firm"

A telltale sign of an outfit with too much money

Yeah, better to get a small time crowd that won't raise too much suspicion. Damned if you do and all that.

Google "auditing scandals" and you'll find Deloitte way ahead of any "small time crowd".

Trying to figure out how to reply to that. Could you explain what point you're making with that post please?

Only saw the clip once but was there a serious amount of steps for the kilcoo goal?

Thought that myself. There was a hop at the start but reckon he took 6/7 steps. But, like you, only saw it once.

Fair play to diesel for heading out in the dark to commit crimes for a fella he doesn't even know.

It's borderline Waterford Whispers stuff.

Thought The Irishman was pure shite. Didn't like it at all. Over long, not a compelling story and little if anything in the way of character development.

I won't be in a hurry to see it because of De Niro. He is a brutal actor. I struggle to remember a movie he was good in.

In fairness, you didn't say he wasn't good in any films, but the struggle must go on.

Switzerland at home to Georgia won 1-0. Goal scored on 76 minutes and the Sky Sports commentator said it was a big goal for the Republic of Ireland, i can hear the cheers from here.  Hmm..

Had the Swiss drawn, we would have had to beat the Danes x 2. By 1 will be hard enough.

What's this. Checking things out before posting?

"We're audited by Deloitte, a big four firm"

A telltale sign of an outfit with too much money

Yeah, better to get a small time crowd that won't raise too much suspicion. Damned if you do and all that.

So they GPA are probably overpaid in many people's views.

Are they representing their members well or what is that people think they should be doing, other than declaring how much each individual is getting paid?

Johnny, what do you mean by dictating on rules and regulations?

Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.

Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?

The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.

The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few

Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

They certainly were, 12 years ago. The GAA subsequently bought the revolution.

Also, does a union with corporate sponsorship not strike you as quare?

Never thought about it. Suppose it does.

[that was done out of pure greed and nothing to do with player welfare]

Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.

Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?

The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.

The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few

Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

Balbriggan is right, any craic of strike action out of the GPA and the steady stream of funds to Mr Flynn, Seamus and Co will be threatened.
Once they took the GAA money they neutered themselves and that was done out of pure greed and nothing to do with player welfare.

What are you basing that assertion on?

Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.

Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?

The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.

The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few

Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

I find that posters that are usually right about things, don't like ever being wrong about things.

I once was told I had an agenda because I said I didn't know the answer to a question. The ignorance agenda.

[you have to give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker]

On the extremely tight calls, what is the published margin of error? I'm a bit suspicious when you are literally talking about 3 or 4 centimetres. I hold the same suspicion for hawkeye in the GAA. I just watched Brian Hogan's catch over the crossbar in the All Ireland final again, and it is no way over the crossbar. I suspect the margin of error is at least a couple of centimetres, and if you are in that +/- you have to give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker.

Why?

[mastermind]

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/kevin-lunney-quinn-director-attack-mastermind-dies-as-police-carry-out-searches-38673054.html

"The alleged mastermind of the brutal abduction and torture of businessman Kevin Lunney died of a heart attack when English police raided his "safe house" in the UK in a series of searches by three police forces this morning.

Mob boss Cyril McGuinness died when armed police raided the property in the Derby area of England after getting the location of the secret hideout from gardai...

McGuinness who was aged in his early 50s from in Co Fermanagh and has more than 50 convictions."

Mastermind 

From Paddy Power:

To win 6 AISF championships in a row in 2020 4/7
To win 7 AISF championships in a row in 2021 6/4
To win 8 AISF championships in a row in 2022 11/4
To win 9 AISF championships in a row in 2023 9/2
To win 10 AISF championships in a row in 2024 15/2

Donegal are 9/1 to win it next year, Tyrone 16/1 and Mayo 18/1 all of which PP think is less likely than Dublin winning ten in a row.