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It's only being made a big deal of because of Cahair has the inside line. Counties who haven't had the recent success Derry have had  are doing this and we hear nothing about it. As has been said the income from the last couple of years and the run the county with the big attendances at games more than covers it. He's of no help to Derry that man and just enjoys stirring it.

So clubs who cried about relegation from leagues being unfair due to having to play without their county players are now crying that they are in a relegation playoff after playing 4/5 championship games with their county players. Absolutely pathetic that they have went to ulster on a technicality, when in theory the approach taken would have benefitted the 'better' teams. Coleraine are going nowhere and will be an intermediate team (and maybe lower) in the not too distant future anyway, and Screen are just treading water at senior, a year at intermediate to rebuild would maybe be a good thing. Arrogance and entitlement are awful.

That's about it alright. They should just do the draw again with no seedings based on the championship group places. That's what their appeal is supposedly based on. The very thing that was there to benefit those who won games in championship groups they have the problem with.

A complete shambles. Everyone new 4 went down this year. The seeding if anything was put in to benefit the clubs that finished higher in the groups.

Those 8 clubs should have been put in 2 groups of 4 and played each other round robin. Bottom 2 in each group goes down. That way teams have a few games to save themselves rather than a one off match. If that had been the case I'd say there wouldn't have been the same objections. Looks like relegation won't happen this year so it is a bit shambolic but maybe it suits the powers that be also.

Maybe but that's not the way it was set up from the start of the year. To take it to Ulster on the basis of technicality about who they would play in the relegation match based on the seeding doesn't look good for them or the County.

A complete shambles. Everyone new 4 went down this year. The seeding if anything was put in to benefit the clubs that finished higher in the groups.

A couple of positives last night in particular the performances of McGrogan and McCluskey. McGrogan was very good. Disappointing to see more of the same from the so called experienced players. Kicking at best  50/50 balls into packed defence, carrying the ball into the tackle and getting turned over plus giving away so many score able frees. Trying to get this advanced mark so many times obviously wasn't working and could be seen from early.  Patience just not shown or the craft to break it down or win frees. There were a lot of young heads in the Donegal squad last night who showed more of this and many of them haven't played much at senior,  if at all.
It's very early days and a lot of players to come in but would say the McKenna performances last year showed a lot more promise.  For the huge number of training sessions that were written about in the Irish news that players have been through you can't really say you see different looking players on the field. At some point you'd expect lads to be stronger and especially move a lot quicker.  The speed getting  back when Donegal scored the goal stood out as a contrast to what they did when they lost it.

What was the attendance tonight?

4500 I saw in Twitter, shows what the people of Derry think of league football when it matters

Yes. There would have been less in Celtic park. A good junior championship game between 2 Derry city team's at Celtic park would almost get double figures paying at the gate. South derry is the heartland and always will be. Next year at senior football the only real north Derry team playing senior football will be Claudy. Coleraine will also play but really Coleraine are outsiders to both south and north derry.

What relevance does the game last night have to a game elsewhere. Just more divisive nonsense that's not needed. Ah sure you're great and far better than those awful folk up the road - give yourself a big hug. 

Scumbaggery is what it is and there is alot of it about in club football. One punch can kill!

100%. If you weren't brought up in it or involved in a club you wouldn't be within an arses roar of it.
This isn't picking on a club.All games should be videoed and anyone caught stepping out of line should be told on your way - take up MMA. Although MMA probably has more discipline than some lads who take to the field.

Great attitude to the game there. Hit someone from behind and possibly put them in hospital and impact their livelihood and  then try to justify it.
Fortunately in many  places the game is about skill and fitness and not about  lashing out with  what you see as justice. That's not standing up for your teammates. Doing that anywhere else would be gbh.
Too many in Derry are stuck in the dark ages which is one of the reasons why clubs are struggling to get young lads through to senior

Nice clip of the Glenullin v Newbridge game doing the rounds. Dirty low blow from behind a man. Real manly stuff. No doubt the fault will be with whoever took the footage for some people.

For years,despite evidence to he contrary,I have always looked upon a brighter  future for all Derry football teams.As my friend "BRAVEHEART" SO ACCURATELY SAYS OUR 2019  U2O TEAM WAS TO BE OUR GREAT WHITE  HOPE!!

INDEED THEIR PERFORMANCE AGAINST Mayo in last year's All Ireland semi final seemed to add substance to that opinion.Now teams which we beat at minor level,including players who performed really well against Mayo last year are trounced at u20 level this year.

Where are the great u20 players whom we were told were ready to make the step up to the Senior County team?It seems to me that the gap between Derry and Tyrone is getting wider and wider.That is not progress in my opinion.

As a consequence of being liable to be called up to the Trades Description Commission I hereby resign my Derry Optimist portfolio and apply instead for the moniker Derry Pessimist! If any one can give me any credible explanation for this pathetic turn of events I would be delighted to hear from them ad then maybe,just maybe,I will reconsider my position.Otherwise I will only be looking forward to meeting St Peter at the pearly gates!

Sad time's. Minor level means very little. I am a huge believer that you don't need the best teams to succeed. Having the best management's in place is much more important. We,in Derry,falter at this fence

So a management team that won Ulster last year ran Mayo close and lost in a final this year are a failure ? Some people are hard to please or have maybe some connection to a former manager who won nothing and had a good cry to the newspapers. Derry had a number of players injured for this or carrying injuries. Some doom and gloom merchants about.  We do need to look at how lads our developed for senior and the injuries especially hamstrings need to be questioned in terms of what's being done.  We have lost a couple of players to Australia from from our underage who definitely could have had an impact at senior and maybe in other counties the incentives would have been there to stay.

Great fight back by the 20s. Hopefully a couple push through to seniors although it's a big step to be ready for senior football. A lot of them still look like youngsters so serious work needed to get physically ready for it. Hopefully some sort of development program put in for all these lads to do.... and keep some of the parents and clubs from wrecking their heads.

Big crowd expected in Celtic park this weekend? If it's a good day i'm hopeful there might be 500.

Be interesting to see if Leitrim supporters  out number Derry.  Leitrim people  might be willing to travel in decent numbers for at least two hours to support their country. Will Derry people travel 30 minutes to one hour or take their so called principled stance because it's not in their backyard.  More bull shit excuses from people no doubt.

So, did your dream come true?  Were there more Leitrim supporters than Derry supporters?

Look you'd be better off giving that phone back to your mammy.

You found it interesting in your post above, which started the discussion.  Why back down now?

721 exactly

From Leitrim?

Yeah from Leitrim.

Fair enough, you weren't even at the match.  You shouldn't start conversations that you can't finish. See you in Bellaghy v Wexford.  Bring your calculator!

Big crowd expected in Celtic park this weekend? If it's a good day i'm hopeful there might be 500.

Be interesting to see if Leitrim supporters  out number Derry.  Leitrim people  might be willing to travel in decent numbers for at least two hours to support their country. Will Derry people travel 30 minutes to one hour or take their so called principled stance because it's not in their backyard.  More bull shit excuses from people no doubt.

So, did your dream come true?  Were there more Leitrim supporters than Derry supporters?

Look you'd be better off giving that phone back to your mammy.

You found it interesting in your post above, which started the discussion.  Why back down now?

721 exactly

From Leitrim?

Yeah from Leitrim.

Fair enough, you weren't even at the match.  You shouldn't start conversations that you can't finish. See you in Bellaghy v Wexford.  Bring your calculator!
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Ok you're right I wasn't at it. Didn't see the bus load from Manorhamilton pull up outside the gate before it or watch  the game.  I'll be in Bellaghy supporting my county. We'll see if more show up than were in Screen or Glen. Pathetic level of support at both.

Big crowd expected in Celtic park this weekend? If it's a good day i'm hopeful there might be 500.

Be interesting to see if Leitrim supporters  out number Derry.  Leitrim people  might be willing to travel in decent numbers for at least two hours to support their country. Will Derry people travel 30 minutes to one hour or take their so called principled stance because it's not in their backyard.  More bull shit excuses from people no doubt.

So, did your dream come true?  Were there more Leitrim supporters than Derry supporters?

Look you'd be better off giving that phone back to your mammy.

You found it interesting in your post above, which started the discussion.  Why back down now?

721 exactly

From Leitrim?

Yeah from Leitrim.

Big crowd expected in Celtic park this weekend? If it's a good day i'm hopeful there might be 500.

Be interesting to see if Leitrim supporters  out number Derry.  Leitrim people  might be willing to travel in decent numbers for at least two hours to support their country. Will Derry people travel 30 minutes to one hour or take their so called principled stance because it's not in their backyard.  More bull shit excuses from people no doubt.

So, did your dream come true?  Were there more Leitrim supporters than Derry supporters?

Look you'd be better off giving that phone back to your mammy.

You found it interesting in your post above, which started the discussion.  Why back down now?

721 exactly

Big crowd expected in Celtic park this weekend? If it's a good day i'm hopeful there might be 500.

Be interesting to see if Leitrim supporters  out number Derry.  Leitrim people  might be willing to travel in decent numbers for at least two hours to support their country. Will Derry people travel 30 minutes to one hour or take their so called principled stance because it's not in their backyard.  More bull shit excuses from people no doubt.

So, did your dream come true?  Were there more Leitrim supporters than Derry supporters?

Look you'd be better off giving that phone back to your mammy.