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#31
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 30, 2018, 10:44:58 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on October 30, 2018, 09:32:02 PM
Tyrone club league football is a complete joke and has been for years
Hammer each other for the first few games - then hand each other points at the end of the season for nothing.
Laughing stock  and has been for years.

If anyone is interested in sorting this shite out once and for all restructure the league as follows Top 4 play off for league top 8 qualify to Oneill cup next year quarter finals. Introduce a secondary competition for bottom 8 not the oneill cup. last 2 automatic demotion. Next six plus top 2 in division 2 after league an championship winners play off for last six places in division 1. top team home fixtures vs lowest rank all the way down. win an stay in division one lose and go to division 2. That will keep them honest till the end.
#32
Quote from: armaghniac on September 15, 2018, 07:11:42 PM
Ryan McMenamin could drop his knees on Jack McCaffrey and Phillip Jordan could charge at Brian Fenton.

And then again stevie oneill Peter canavan mugsy mulligan. Brian mcguigan Brian Dooher Ger Cavlin Enda McGinley would rip them a new arse hole. Tyrone in the 2000s had some of the best forwards of all time playing for them. I will  Dream.on.........
#33
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 15, 2018, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: Localexpert on September 15, 2018, 09:23:49 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on September 15, 2018, 03:30:17 AM
Quote from: Localexpert on September 15, 2018, 01:15:41 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on September 15, 2018, 12:22:23 AM
A call up is required for Dan Lowe. He was pure class tonight.

No problem dan.  When micky needs a man to beat strabane you'll be the first one he calls  ::)

Ah come on. He's such a classy player and always has been.

To be honest haven't saw him play since underage days against my own club.  There is a big step up from playing against strabane to the Dublin though and can he defend defend defend?

County football would be the ruination of Dan Lowe gone are the days when skillfull classy footballers plyid their trade at county level it's all grunt and muscle now and horrible to watch.
#34
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 04, 2018, 07:28:26 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on September 04, 2018, 07:14:50 PM
Pomeroy 20/1 on Paddy Power to win the O'Neill cup. Some price and have a good run to the Semi Final with Galbally then Moy or Edendork.

20/1 is some price alright and it's that for the same reason Tyrone where 11/2 at the weekend.
#35
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
September 01, 2018, 08:25:49 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on September 01, 2018, 08:12:59 PM
"The unbreakable bond" documentary was arguably for me, one of the best I have ever seen. T na g deserves a huge amount of credit for delivering a true master piece. A master piece that wouldn't have been possible if it wasn't for the people behind such a remarkable journey. Practically now a days myself I don't even watch tv anymore, I give it minimum attention too much nonsense for my liking. However though, it must be said we as Irish people should be very grateful for Tnags'  contribution to Irish society.

Like I said a few posts back, before my love in with Tyrone started, was the day I heard about Paul McGirr's death on the 15th of June 1997. That was over 21 years ago!  hard to believe but time really dose not want to wait. The documentary was so emotional and for me very very raw. It brought back a lot of memories of following that great bunch of lads. After the loss in the minor final in 1997. I felt like Stephen O Neill at the end of that match. It was a surreal feeling because I'm not from there. But for those of us who would hang around to read the next chapter in these boys lives we were in for a huge surprise. That Tyrone story and Mickey Harte  its author would give us some of the best moments life has to offer as a Gael. At the same time it would give us the hardest knocks life could possibly throw at you. You could also argue that someone who like Mickey Harte who has committed a quarter of a century of his life to the Tyrone cause that things might just happen "naturally". But there was so much uniqueness in each tragedy that even the most gifted of story tellers would be challenged to come up with something so dramatic.

I remember my wife doing a semester back in the day in Queens University. At a time when it probably wasn't advisable to be walking around in GAA gear. But i always remember the Tyrone students  with their club names and celtic crosses on their kit bags. It made me feel good to be in with your "own". Our streets that time were full of British soldiers on patrol, a sense of Irish pride amongst the aggravation. Mean while in North Antrim where I'm from you could have been pulled over for carrying a hurling stick.For a time they even made a law that you couldn't carry a hurl without a sliotar. Something silly like that. But i always thought that where i came from in North Antrim the match day programs for our hurling teams under "occupations" would read like this. Very typically.  Bricklayers, joiners, plasters, farmers some would say they were unemployed not to get caught doing the double. Very few were college educated. Rather than using our heads we were simply happy using our backs because this is what we always done. This has hindered us in different ways. Working physically demanding jobs takes its toll mentally as well as physically. The young Antrim hurler in his prime could be found in a building foundation laying blocks to a line in the gutters soaked and muddied to the eyeballs. While his Tyrone counter part could have been in a warm class room studying the projectory of a ball and learning the science of the game. I don't want to over state that fact and it was only visiting my wife at queens university i made these observations. To be fair and honest I was very envious of these Tyrone lads. I realized at that stage we in North Antrim were doing it all wrong. The way games have evolved you would need to make sure the elevator goes all the way to the top floor. The games are better off for it to, and are generally much cleaner truth be told.Its less and less we see the big agriculture career ending tackles.

I read about Kevin Hughes brothers accident. But to hear Kevin describe it in person for the first time for me I must say it got to me. It meant so much to Kevin that his brother hugged him after the replay win over Kerry. Telling him he played well "I'm proud of you our boy". He just needed that assurance from his brother. You could tell by his voice he was still reliving that precious moment. No one can take it from him. Not really an Irish thing to do is to show emotion, but you could tell it meant so much to Kevin. He will always have that memory to hold onto and maybe a wee lesson there for the rest of us. My God but 1997 must have been a tough year for Kevin Hughes in particular.

Enjoyed listening to Brian McGuigan telling the story how he and Stephen O Neill went through Marion to convince Mickey to stay on another year. Mickey said in his book that he felt he let the team down because he didn't deliver the all Ireland. Probably with Mark being over age in 98 he thought that was it. Like most father son coaches, time to move on with your young boy to the next stage of his development. That decision to stay though was the best ever. And what better assurances can you get than Stephen O Neill and Brian McGuigan and as they say the rest is history.

Mark Harte's story about swapping jerseys with Martin Beckett from Kerry was very moving. How he always wanted to keep his Tyrone jersey but Martin insisted they swap after the semi final. Later on he was glad he did. As Martin died himself in a car accident. A great prospect for Kerry and another young life gone to soon.


What more can you say about Mark Harte, a very tidy corner forward and a fluent Irish speaker a great ambassador for Tyrone.

Listening to the stories about the Omagh bomb and the deaths of 29 people which in reality was 31 people. Michael Monaghan's wife was heavily pregnant with twins. They always wanted six children. He lost his wife who was soon to deliver twins along with his little daughter. Probably one of the worst effected families by the troubles.

The research team of Eamonn and Michael Mallie  along with Stephen O Neills father sharing intimate footage was very powerful. You can tell some amount of work went into putting that all together. I once made a tribute video to Paul and Cormac but found it very hard to get good footage of Paul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnlL3klciw8
I thought it was classy not to show Paul's collision with the Armagh keeper and it switched over from film footage of the game to radio commentary. Just so well done at all levels.

The footage of a very fresh faced Michela was lovely. I still have a picture of myself,  Michella and Mickey together at home. I wanted to send it to him with a mass card but I could never find out Mickeys address.

That documentary was like a part one it seem to end very abruptly with so much more to tell. I could see a new part to it in the future.

If Tyrone can pull off this All Ireland it would be so fitting.

You don't always get what you deserve in life and if we get beat tomorrow it is just another magnificent step in the pleasures of being born and bred among the bushes. Tir Eoghain  Abu.
#36
GAA Discussion / Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
August 27, 2018, 11:02:14 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 27, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
Tyrone football is a personality cult built around the great helmsman in the great patriotic war against RTE. You could see it last year when Sean Cavanagh said a few things. The county runs a system of juche or media self reliance  It is only when Kim Jung Mickey goes that free speech will be possible.

WTF. You been on the wine ?
#37
GAA Discussion / Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
August 26, 2018, 01:05:14 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 12:53:30 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 25, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu

Has the county board stated such?

Unless you've asked everyone in the county, you can't say such things.

If the county board have any major issues with it they would have replaced Mickey years ago. I don't hear to many people from the county kicking up much fuss over it in support of RTE and if the opinions on this board are reflective of the opinions in the county then yes the people of Tyrone are generally unconcerned by it. Just because you may hold another view on it does not mean you are not in a small minority who hold that view.

Well, there was contract issues with Mickey in the last 2/3 years. There was a point where it was unclear he'd be kept on. Maybe the rte thing was an issue? Who knows.

To be honest, good results and good c'ship season helps people forget such things. If McGeeney was winning us Ulsters and getting us to AI semis/final, people wouldn't give a hoot if he was strangling kittens on a Friday night.

Just because you haven't heard anyone complain don't mean there's nobody complaining. You could be just talking to the wrong people.

Could be Benny but living in the county and being involved with the club scene I don't hear to much annoyance about the RTE thing plenty off people who have an issue about how the team has been managed over last few years but on the RTE issue that transcends football and I do think Mickey does have the support of the vast majority of Tyrone people. Somethings are beyond the pale and RTEs treatment of the Harte family at the time was reprehensible and unforgiveable regardless if they felt aggrieved by Mickeys interference in internal appointments. Much as you might feel that Tyrone people are split on this issue because they might have issues with Mickeys management you will find you are way off the mark. When it comes to the important things in life like family a community will always support their own. You are wrong to think otherwise.

No I'm not saying the county is split down the middle on this. I was drawing attention to you saying the whole county was behind Harte, when it's difficult to say that for certain. It's even difficult to say the whole CB is behind him too, given recent contract issues.

It's a bit like saying all of Ireland were in favour of the same sex marriage vote, when 750,000 actually voted No. You just don't hear the views of the No's. Ok maybe that's not a great example, but you know what I mean.

Ok Benny with out the need for a plebiscite on the issue would it be ok for me to say from my experience it would appear that a majority of the county board and the majority of the people of Tyrone who may have an opinion on the matter appear to have little or no issue with the stance taken by the Tyrone team not to co operate with RTE. Not quite sure what your issue may be in regards to my opinion of the general consensus with the county on the subject but there you have it.
#38
GAA Discussion / Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
August 26, 2018, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 25, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu

Has the county board stated such?

Unless you've asked everyone in the county, you can't say such things.

If the county board have any major issues with it they would have replaced Mickey years ago. I don't hear to many people from the county kicking up much fuss over it in support of RTE and if the opinions on this board are reflective of the opinions in the county then yes the people of Tyrone are generally unconcerned by it. Just because you may hold another view on it does not mean you are not in a small minority who hold that view.

Well, there was contract issues with Mickey in the last 2/3 years. There was a point where it was unclear he'd be kept on. Maybe the rte thing was an issue? Who knows.

To be honest, good results and good c'ship season helps people forget such things. If McGeeney was winning us Ulsters and getting us to AI semis/final, people wouldn't give a hoot if he was strangling kittens on a Friday night.

Just because you haven't heard anyone complain don't mean there's nobody complaining. You could be just talking to the wrong people.

Could be Benny but living in the county and being involved with the club scene I don't hear to much annoyance about the RTE thing plenty off people who have an issue about how the team has been managed over last few years but on the RTE issue that transcends football and I do think Mickey does have the support of the vast majority of Tyrone people. Somethings are beyond the pale and RTEs treatment of the Harte family at the time was reprehensible and unforgiveable regardless if they felt aggrieved by Mickeys interference in internal appointments. Much as you might feel that Tyrone people are split on this issue because they might have issues with Mickeys management you will find you are way off the mark. When it comes to the important things in life like family a community will always support their own. You are wrong to think otherwise.
#39
GAA Discussion / Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
August 26, 2018, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 25, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu

Has the county board stated such?

Unless you've asked everyone in the county, you can't say such things.

If the county board have any major issues with it they would have replaced Mickey years ago. I don't hear to many people from the county kicking up much fuss over it in support of RTE and if the opinions on this board are reflective of the opinions in the county then yes the people of Tyrone are generally unconcerned by it. Just because you may hold another view on it does not mean you are not in a small minority who hold that view.
#40
GAA Discussion / Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu
#41
General discussion / Re: Papal Visit to Ireland
August 25, 2018, 08:37:08 PM
Class the Richardson family pure Dubs
#42
General discussion / Re: Papal Visit to Ireland
August 25, 2018, 08:14:02 PM
Catholic Church and RTE putting their best foot forward tonight I hope he has a nice few words for Tyrone for next week. Great show.
#43
GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo! f**king Hell
August 18, 2018, 07:47:19 PM
Quote from: Feckitt on August 18, 2018, 03:41:44 PM
1989 All Ireland Senior Final  Cork beat Mayo
1991 All Ireland Minor Final  Cork beat Mayo
1994 All Ireland U-21 Final  Cork beat Mayo
1995 All Ireland U-21 Final  Kerry beat Mayo
1996 All Ireland Senior Final  Meath beat Mayo
1997 All Ireland Senior Final  Kerry beat Mayo
1999 All Ireland Minor Final  Down beat Mayo
2000 All Ireland Minor Final  Cork beat Mayo
2001 National League Final  Mayo beat Galway
2001 All Ireland U-21 Final  Tyrone beat Mayo
2004 All Ireland U-21 Final  Armagh beat Mayo
2004 All Ireland Senior Final  Kerry beat Mayo
2005 All Ireland Minor Final  Down beat Mayo
2006 All Ireland U-21 Final  Mayo beat Cork
2006 All Ireland Senior Final  Kerry beat Mayo
2007 National League Final  Donegal beat Mayo
2008 All Ireland Minor Final  Tyrone beat Mayo
2009 All Ireland Minor Final  Armagh beat Mayo
2010 National League Final  Cork beat Mayo
2012 National League Final Cork beat Mayo
2012 All Ireland Senior Final Donegal beat Mayo
2013 All Ireland Minor Final  Mayo beat Tyrone
2013 All Ireland Senior Final  Dublin beat Mayo
2016 All Ireland U-21 Final Mayo beat Cork
2016 All Ireland Senior Final  Dublin beat Mayo
2017 All Ireland Senior Final  Dublin beat Mayo
2018 All Ireland U-20 Final  Kildare beat Mayo


Even Kildare are getting in on the act now!

Fcuk that that's enough to give you a nose bleed my grandfather was a Mayo man can't believe I am descended from such an unfortunate people.
#44
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 05, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
Huge performance from McQuillan, they couldn't have done it without him ignoring fouls that would have led to players being sent off.

Yes you are right there McHugh should most definitely have been black carded before putting Murphy through for the goal....Catch a grip McQuillan is a poor ref. but to suggest he favoured Tyrone is laughable.
#45
Tyrone where poison in the first half but when Brennan and McGeary came in the game turned. Outstanding  second half performances from Colm Kav.Peter Harte. Brennan and McGeary an in fairness Morgan's kick outs were excellent despite the obvious balls up. Overall a huge last 20 mins won it. I hope the go after Monaghan from the start.