Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[AustinPowers]

From a  Pat Mc Eneany interview last week;

"A goalkeeper taking a kick-out, can a goalkeeper soccer dribble the ball out and without taking the ball into his hands, kick the ball 40-yards up the field? Yes, he can.

So what he's saying is., a goalkeeper ,  instead of lumping it upfield off the tee, can knock the ball off the tee, dribble it as far as he wants, as long as he doesn't pick it up?

[Dabh]

From a  Pat Mc Eneany interview last week;

"A goalkeeper taking a kick-out, can a goalkeeper soccer dribble the ball out and without taking the ball into his hands, kick the ball 40-yards up the field? Yes, he can.

So what he's saying is., a goalkeeper ,  instead of lumping it upfield off the tee, can knock the ball off the tee, dribble it as far as he wants, as long as he doesn't pick it up?

Yes
Rule 2.7a
The player taking a kick-out may kick the ball more than once before any other player touches it but may not take the ball into his hands.

[Dabh]

'Kerry would argue that they themselves were unfortunate to have a free scored against them in the 64th minute when Gavin White performed a perfectly legal shoulder on Cillian McDaid. The problem with that is McDaid collided into Jack Barry and as the Galway midfielder was sandwiched and had no opportunity to fall from the tackle it was a free.'
.. taken from Brian Gavins' 'Referee Review' in the examiner

Has anyone any idea what rule prevents a player from shouldering someone if they do not allow for the recipient to 'fall'
Or this just 'made up' nonsense?

[JoG2]

'Kerry would argue that they themselves were unfortunate to have a free scored against them in the 64th minute when Gavin White performed a perfectly legal shoulder on Cillian McDaid. The problem with that is McDaid collided into Jack Barry and as the Galway midfielder was sandwiched and had no opportunity to fall from the tackle it was a free.'
.. taken from Brian Gavins' 'Referee Review' in the examiner

Has anyone any idea what rule prevents a player from shouldering someone if they do not allow for the recipient to 'fall'
Or this just 'made up' nonsense?

Plucked from the sky. Shoulder to shoulder obviously allowed for in the rule book, anything after isn't covered / mentioned

[bigarsedkeeper]

From a  Pat Mc Eneany interview last week;

"A goalkeeper taking a kick-out, can a goalkeeper soccer dribble the ball out and without taking the ball into his hands, kick the ball 40-yards up the field? Yes, he can.

So what he's saying is., a goalkeeper ,  instead of lumping it upfield off the tee, can knock the ball off the tee, dribble it as far as he wants, as long as he doesn't pick it up?

Yes
Rule 2.7a
The player taking a kick-out may kick the ball more than once before any other player touches it but may not take the ball into his hands.

Went for a short kick out once and got too much of the tee, ball barely went the distance to let full back get it - so I could of ran out and hoofed it away before the forward got in? Ref would have blew that 100%.

[Milltown Row2]

From a  Pat Mc Eneany interview last week;

"A goalkeeper taking a kick-out, can a goalkeeper soccer dribble the ball out and without taking the ball into his hands, kick the ball 40-yards up the field? Yes, he can.

So what he's saying is., a goalkeeper ,  instead of lumping it upfield off the tee, can knock the ball off the tee, dribble it as far as he wants, as long as he doesn't pick it up?

Yes
Rule 2.7a
The player taking a kick-out may kick the ball more than once before any other player touches it but may not take the ball into his hands.

Went for a short kick out once and got too much of the tee, ball barely went the distance to let full back get it - so I could of ran out and hoofed it away before the forward got in? Ref would have blew that 100%.

A ref that may not know that rule, like the rest of the players and supporters it seems on a lot of rules... you can actually bounce the ball as many times as you want, sort of another crazy rule

[Milltown Row2]

'Kerry would argue that they themselves were unfortunate to have a free scored against them in the 64th minute when Gavin White performed a perfectly legal shoulder on Cillian McDaid. The problem with that is McDaid collided into Jack Barry and as the Galway midfielder was sandwiched and had no opportunity to fall from the tackle it was a free.'
.. taken from Brian Gavins' 'Referee Review' in the examiner

Has anyone any idea what rule prevents a player from shouldering someone if they do not allow for the recipient to 'fall'
Or this just 'made up' nonsense?

Plucked from the sky. Shoulder to shoulder obviously allowed for in the rule book, anything after isn't covered / mentioned

It probably looked worse than it was, two lads shouldering you 'legally' in fairness I'd have stopped play as it did at the time look like their heads collided and given an indirect free for whoever was in possession..

[bigarsedkeeper]

From a  Pat Mc Eneany interview last week;

"A goalkeeper taking a kick-out, can a goalkeeper soccer dribble the ball out and without taking the ball into his hands, kick the ball 40-yards up the field? Yes, he can.

So what he's saying is., a goalkeeper ,  instead of lumping it upfield off the tee, can knock the ball off the tee, dribble it as far as he wants, as long as he doesn't pick it up?

Yes
Rule 2.7a
The player taking a kick-out may kick the ball more than once before any other player touches it but may not take the ball into his hands.

Went for a short kick out once and got too much of the tee, ball barely went the distance to let full back get it - so I could of ran out and hoofed it away before the forward got in? Ref would have blew that 100%.

A ref that may not know that rule, like the rest of the players and supporters it seems on a lot of rules... you can actually bounce the ball as many times as you want, sort of another crazy rule

You can basketball dribble the ball isn't that right. At an U11 match last night the ref blew a lad for 2 bounces - he palmed the ball down in front of himself and collected it, took 4 steps and bounced it and he blew him up. Thought it was harsh.

I suppose the kick out one is similar to hurling where if you miss the puck out you can pull it on the ground.

[twohands!!!]

'Kerry would argue that they themselves were unfortunate to have a free scored against them in the 64th minute when Gavin White performed a perfectly legal shoulder on Cillian McDaid. The problem with that is McDaid collided into Jack Barry and as the Galway midfielder was sandwiched and had no opportunity to fall from the tackle it was a free.'
.. taken from Brian Gavins' 'Referee Review' in the examiner

Has anyone any idea what rule prevents a player from shouldering someone if they do not allow for the recipient to 'fall'
Or this just 'made up' nonsense?

Plucked from the sky. Shoulder to shoulder obviously allowed for in the rule book, anything after isn't covered / mentioned

It probably looked worse than it was, two lads shouldering you 'legally' in fairness I'd have stopped play as it did at the time look like their heads collided and given an indirect free for whoever was in possession..

I was surprised the Galway player wasn't forced off for a concussion check as I thought it looked like a head to head clash and he was down for a good while.

Watching it I thought the exact same re indirect free as opposed to free.

With all the stuff going on in rugby I  think the GAA could be doing better with the concussion stuff. Progress has been made but there's still room for improvement I feel.

[screenexile]

From a  Pat Mc Eneany interview last week;

"A goalkeeper taking a kick-out, can a goalkeeper soccer dribble the ball out and without taking the ball into his hands, kick the ball 40-yards up the field? Yes, he can.

So what he's saying is., a goalkeeper ,  instead of lumping it upfield off the tee, can knock the ball off the tee, dribble it as far as he wants, as long as he doesn't pick it up?

Yes
Rule 2.7a
The player taking a kick-out may kick the ball more than once before any other player touches it but may not take the ball into his hands.

Went for a short kick out once and got too much of the tee, ball barely went the distance to let full back get it - so I could of ran out and hoofed it away before the forward got in? Ref would have blew that 100%.

A ref that may not know that rule, like the rest of the players and supporters it seems on a lot of rules... you can actually bounce the ball as many times as you want, sort of another crazy rule

You can basketball dribble the ball isn't that right. At an U11 match last night the ref blew a lad for 2 bounces - he palmed the ball down in front of himself and collected it, took 4 steps and bounced it and he blew him up. Thought it was harsh.

I suppose the kick out one is similar to hurling where if you miss the puck out you can pull it on the ground.

My understanding of that one was you're allowed to bounce the ball to get control of it. Once you have control of the ball you're only allowed one bounce.

If you bounce the ball on a wet and it scoots away from you you're definitely allowed to bounce it back into your hand.

[Milltown Row2]

From a  Pat Mc Eneany interview last week;

"A goalkeeper taking a kick-out, can a goalkeeper soccer dribble the ball out and without taking the ball into his hands, kick the ball 40-yards up the field? Yes, he can.

So what he's saying is., a goalkeeper ,  instead of lumping it upfield off the tee, can knock the ball off the tee, dribble it as far as he wants, as long as he doesn't pick it up?

Yes
Rule 2.7a
The player taking a kick-out may kick the ball more than once before any other player touches it but may not take the ball into his hands.

Went for a short kick out once and got too much of the tee, ball barely went the distance to let full back get it - so I could of ran out and hoofed it away before the forward got in? Ref would have blew that 100%.

A ref that may not know that rule, like the rest of the players and supporters it seems on a lot of rules... you can actually bounce the ball as many times as you want, sort of another crazy rule

You can basketball dribble the ball isn't that right. At an U11 match last night the ref blew a lad for 2 bounces - he palmed the ball down in front of himself and collected it, took 4 steps and bounced it and he blew him up. Thought it was harsh.

I suppose the kick out one is similar to hurling where if you miss the puck out you can pull it on the ground.

Yeah thats unfair to call that one, again this is why we have different views during the game, collecting the ball and bouncing it, is one collecting it again is another, if he were to lose possession and palmed it then it doesnt count, must ref's will blow ..

The kick out one yes similar but I'm not sure after the initial striking of the missed puck out can he hit it again after striking on the ground... See its a minefield

Screen, if he's not in control of the ball, he can bounce/palm it as much as he wants till getting control

[general_lee]

I genuinely don't know this so perhaps one of the refs could clarify: is the advantage rule just for attacking forwards? And if not is it at the refs discretion? Or should it always be given when it's clear there is an advantage.

Scenario: ball played in long with the game in the balance, full back of chasing team catches it, no defensive mark called by ref, fullback wouldn't have called it anyway as he'd acres of space to launch a counter attack, forward lazily fouls as full back breaks away. No advantage given when it was clear there was one to be given...  instead ref blows to bring it back for a free out, full back was well on his way down the pitch, verbal remonstration and subsequent hopball given on 21m line (Other team win hop ball and get an easy point)

[marty34]

Can a free taker out the field use a kicking tee or is that just for the goalie's kick-outs?

[Rossfan]

Rule 5.40 says Ref can apply advantage following an aggressive foul if a scoring opportunity or some other advantage seems on.

[johnnycool]

Rule 5.40 says Ref can apply advantage following an aggressive foul if a scoring opportunity or some other advantage seems on.

Hard to play an advantage when you're on your hole.

Maybe a black card or two would make potential perpetrators think twice.