Money, Dublin and the GAA

Started by IolarCoisCuain, October 04, 2016, 07:27:37 PM

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From the Bunker

Great bit of business here! And great to see a small club get to use Croke Park and GAA President John Horan to promote their Sponsor. Dublin's John Horan is the right man in the right place.  ;)

https://www.cualagaa.ie/cuala-and-amgan-announce-ground-breaking-partnership/

Rossfan

2 Tier GAA :(
Next week well have Elphin announcing a link up with Elphin Mart .......
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: From the Bunker on May 30, 2019, 11:41:04 PM
Great bit of business here! And great to see a small club get to use Croke Park and GAA President John Horan to promote their Sponsor. Dublin's John Horan is the right man in the right place.  ;)

https://www.cualagaa.ie/cuala-and-amgan-announce-ground-breaking-partnership/
Why is the president of the GAA at a club announcement?
Was he just hanging around upstairs?

Cuala's sponsorship deal is probably worth more than most counties get.

From the Bunker

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 31, 2019, 10:55:50 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 30, 2019, 11:41:04 PM
Great bit of business here! And great to see a small club get to use Croke Park and GAA President John Horan to promote their Sponsor. Dublin's John Horan is the right man in the right place.  ;)

https://www.cualagaa.ie/cuala-and-amgan-announce-ground-breaking-partnership/
Why is the president of the GAA at a club announcement?
Was he just hanging around upstairs?

Cuala's sponsorship deal is probably worth more than most counties get.

John Horan is at the announcement because he is a Dub, promoting a Dublin Club! I can't see that there is anything wrong with that? You have to stand up and help out your own. It is also only natural that Cuala should get to use Croke Park for the use of the promoting their sponsor. This is a once in a lifetime deal and you can be doing it's promotion down in the local community centre. 

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2019, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 31, 2019, 10:55:50 AM
Must ring John and croke park next time our club gets a sponsor on board
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 30, 2019, 11:41:04 PM
Great bit of business here! And great to see a small club get to use Croke Park and GAA President John Horan to promote their Sponsor. Dublin's John Horan is the right man in the right place.  ;)

https://www.cualagaa.ie/cuala-and-amgan-announce-ground-breaking-partnership/
Why is the president of the GAA at a club announcement?
Was he just hanging around upstairs?

Cuala's sponsorship deal is probably worth more than most counties get.

John Horan is at the announcement because he is a Dub, promoting a Dublin Club! I can't see that there is anything wrong with that? You have to stand up and help out your own. It is also only natural that Cuala should get to use Croke Park for the use of the promoting their sponsor. This is a once in a lifetime deal and you can be doing it's promotion down in the local community centre.

kerryforsam19

The main thing is the huge huge advantages Dublin have over the rest of the country. Financial being the main one and also of course sheer numbers.

Ludicrously unfair.

I'd go so far to say Dublin have "doped" their way to success. I don't mean by using banned substances but by financial means.

The phrase "throw your medals in the bin because you got them from cheating" sums it up well.

Jim G, The dubs team and fans know this but it's taboo to admit it openly.

A good number admit as much when it is raised especially after the latest empty "win" and a few pints are had.

It will continue to ruin it until substantial reforms are implemented.

Dinny Breen

QuoteGAA president John Horan from Dublin has said the chief reason for Dublin's dominance is the work of Dublin's voluntary coaches and not the funding Dublin has received over the past decade.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublins-success-not-down-to-money-gaa-president-john-horan-defends-jim-gavins-men-38211085.html

Yes volunteers in Kildare & Meath, your volunteering efforts are shit, you must work harder. It is funny how the GAA President from Dublin refuses to acknowledge any of the advantages Dublin have. It's f**king embarrassing at this stage.
#newbridgeornowhere

From the Bunker

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
QuoteGAA president John Horan from Dublin has said the chief reason for Dublin's dominance is the work of Dublin's voluntary coaches and not the funding Dublin has received over the past decade.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublins-success-not-down-to-money-gaa-president-john-horan-defends-jim-gavins-men-38211085.html

Yes volunteers in Kildare & Meath, your volunteering efforts are shit, you must work harder. It is funny how the GAA President from Dublin refuses to acknowledge any of the advantages Dublin have. It's f**king embarrassing at this stage.

Good man Dublin's John Horan. The best line was

''These things go in cycles and I'm quite sure with the obvious improvement that's coming in both Kildare and Meath that Leinster will come back in time to be competitive."


Dublin have had some cycle of dominance in Leinster? 15 years is an impressive cylcle.



TheGreatest

Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2019, 11:26:06 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
QuoteGAA president John Horan from Dublin has said the chief reason for Dublin's dominance is the work of Dublin's voluntary coaches and not the funding Dublin has received over the past decade.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublins-success-not-down-to-money-gaa-president-john-horan-defends-jim-gavins-men-38211085.html

Yes volunteers in Kildare & Meath, your volunteering efforts are shit, you must work harder. It is funny how the GAA President from Dublin refuses to acknowledge any of the advantages Dublin have. It's f**king embarrassing at this stage.

Good man Dublin's John Horan. The best line was

''These things go in cycles and I'm quite sure with the obvious improvement that's coming in both Kildare and Meath that Leinster will come back in time to be competitive."


Dublin have had some cycle of dominance in Leinster? 15 years is an impressive cylcle.

15 years, a marvelous achievement, just shows what hard work by volunteers can achieve.

Maroon Manc

Quote from: TheGreatest on June 12, 2019, 11:36:29 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2019, 11:26:06 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
QuoteGAA president John Horan from Dublin has said the chief reason for Dublin's dominance is the work of Dublin's voluntary coaches and not the funding Dublin has received over the past decade.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublins-success-not-down-to-money-gaa-president-john-horan-defends-jim-gavins-men-38211085.html

Yes volunteers in Kildare & Meath, your volunteering efforts are shit, you must work harder. It is funny how the GAA President from Dublin refuses to acknowledge any of the advantages Dublin have. It's f**king embarrassing at this stage.

Good man Dublin's John Horan. The best line was

''These things go in cycles and I'm quite sure with the obvious improvement that's coming in both Kildare and Meath that Leinster will come back in time to be competitive."


Dublin have had some cycle of dominance in Leinster? 15 years is an impressive cylcle.

15 years, a marvelous achievement, just shows what hard work by volunteers can achieve.

Yes, volunteers in other parts of the country clearly need to up their game.

highorlow

Quote"Dublin's success - a lot of it is based on voluntary effort and a games programme. Yeah, we do have the [paid] coaches going into schools and that is a benefit, but that project is 50 per cent funded by the clubs. Schools are the predominant area in which the paid coaches work and they work not alone in hurling and football but in camogie and ladies football as well."

What's this "games programme" he mentions, can we do that in Mayo?

This Horan la is an embarrassment to the GAA but the real deal for the Dubs.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

highorlow

They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: highorlow on June 12, 2019, 11:51:03 AM
Quote"Dublin's success - a lot of it is based on voluntary effort and a games programme. Yeah, we do have the [paid] coaches going into schools and that is a benefit, but that project is 50 per cent funded by the clubs. Schools are the predominant area in which the paid coaches work and they work not alone in hurling and football but in camogie and ladies football as well."

What's this "games programme" he mentions, can we do that in Mayo?

This Horan la is an embarrassment to the GAA but the real deal for the Dubs.
Clearly the Dubs have stumbled onto the magic formula that no other county can replicate

Also, great win for Dublin hurlers
Pity they keep losing lads to the professional footballers

Hound

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
QuoteGAA president John Horan from Dublin has said the chief reason for Dublin's dominance is the work of Dublin's voluntary coaches and not the funding Dublin has received over the past decade.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublins-success-not-down-to-money-gaa-president-john-horan-defends-jim-gavins-men-38211085.html

Yes volunteers in Kildare & Meath, your volunteering efforts are shit, you must work harder. It is funny how the GAA President from Dublin refuses to acknowledge any of the advantages Dublin have. It's f**king embarrassing at this stage.
Dinny, in your review of the Leinster semi-finals, did you not say that Dublin players worked harder than any of the other 3 teams?

The 15 year Dublin dominance in Leinster that others have mentioned is interesting. There was a time under Caffrey that people used to say Dublin's easy run in Leinster was a big disadvantage as they were ill prepared when they came up against the proper teams, and got stuffed when it counted.

The rest of Leinster have been underperforming since before Dublin became a powerhouse. So maybe it's in the process of being fixed now, but there's definitely been plenty wrong in Meath and Kildare that has absolutely nothing to do with the Dubs.

I'd love someone to explain how the GDO money made Stephen Cluxton the best keeper, James McCarthy and Jack McCaffrey the best wing backs, Cian O'Sullivan the best sweeper, Brian Fenton the best midfielder, Dean Rock the best freetaker, etc, etc, when none of them received training from GDOs ??

From the Bunker

Quote from: Hound on June 15, 2019, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
QuoteGAA president John Horan from Dublin has said the chief reason for Dublin's dominance is the work of Dublin's voluntary coaches and not the funding Dublin has received over the past decade.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublins-success-not-down-to-money-gaa-president-john-horan-defends-jim-gavins-men-38211085.html

Yes volunteers in Kildare & Meath, your volunteering efforts are shit, you must work harder. It is funny how the GAA President from Dublin refuses to acknowledge any of the advantages Dublin have. It's f**king embarrassing at this stage.
Dinny, in your review of the Leinster semi-finals, did you not say that Dublin players worked harder than any of the other 3 teams?

The 15 year Dublin dominance in Leinster that others have mentioned is interesting. There was a time under Caffrey that people used to say Dublin's easy run in Leinster was a big disadvantage as they were ill prepared when they came up against the proper teams, and got stuffed when it counted.

The rest of Leinster have been underperforming since before Dublin became a powerhouse. So maybe it's in the process of being fixed now, but there's definitely been plenty wrong in Meath and Kildare that has absolutely nothing to do with the Dubs.

I'd love someone to explain how the GDO money made Stephen Cluxton the best keeper, James McCarthy and Jack McCaffrey the best wing backs, Cian O'Sullivan the best sweeper, Brian Fenton the best midfielder, Dean Rock the best freetaker, etc, etc, when none of them received training from GDOs ??

You will have trickles of above average players coming through in a county as big as Dublin with or without the help of money. The key is the above average amount of young players that surround these players in the Dublin squad. You will notice that the Dublin team is now regenerating year on year.  This is where the money makes the difference.