Good article detailing Dublin's unfair funding advantage

[dublin7]

I can't defend the financial doping so I'm going to deflect as much as possible.

At this stage, it's actually laughably pathetic the levels of deflection that Dublin supporters stoop to. It's been this way for many years but they used to at least attempt to throw in some flimsy defence of their multi million euro professional system. Those arguments were so comprehensively battered, they now have nothing else to counter apart from name calling, abuse and endless amounts of deflection.

You know what f**k it. Your obsession with Dublin is getting scary at this stage. You must nearly be talking about Dublin finances in your sleep at night you spend so much time focusing on it.

I really don't care about funding because whatever amount they get the dub county board have shown they will spend it wisely. How many other counties could say that? Why not focus your attention on something where there is genuine wastage and obscene spending such as investigating  all the millions of taxpayers money being wasted on the Nationals Childrens Hospital project and why it's so over budget. There 's a real cause to research instead of your ridiculous obsession with Dublin.

From now on you can moan away to your hearts content and I'll leave you to your bitter ramblings. I'm going to go to the Dublin games throughout the rest of the year and whether they win or lose I know they'll try to play entertaining football. That's more than can be said for the majority of the rest of the country (excluding kerry and mayo) who will have to suffer through dour defensive cynical bore fests that frankly leave me losing the will to live.

At least on those days I can change the channel and watch something else but that'll definitely change if the dubs get less grant money as clearly that's what's wrong with football today!!!

Now you have become Judge and Jury on who should and should not get money. Your lovely football team have it all to themselves. Their monopoly on grants, funding, sponsorship, home games and all the Trophies that money can by.  "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"

I said I don't care how much they get not they should get everything. How is it that acting as judge and jury? You missed the point just like your typical Mayo forward. It must be in your DNA

[Baile Brigín 2]

All this concern for Dublin players who drop out because of sheer numbers is very touching.  Not sure how I managed to miss it all back when we weren't  winning.

Never heard of The Blue Wave initiative or the fact that Dublin gets enough of the coaching development kitty that could pay the wages of a dictator in yer average banana republic?

Nothing to do with what he said though. Suddenly the fans of 31 counties want us broken up to give the nearlymen a shot at county football. Thats new.

Yer dead right. That's because he didn't bother to read what I had to say. Neither may I gently suggest have you. If he wants to know why culchies are upset about Dublin's recent dominance anf thinks its all down to pure jealousy, then he seems to knww nothing about the Blue Wave or what way development funds are disbursed.
I just gave facts and figures- nothing magical in that. Anyone with some basic maths would come up with the same results. I never said I felt sorry or glad for those who could play intercounty football if Dublin was split along county boundaries. That's up to Dublin GAA folks but it does mean you are getting along with a very small percentage of the general population and you need all the money you can lay your hands on in order to stay afloat, never mind increase your market share.
The Gah in Dublin is under severe pressure and needs all the cash that's going but that's because of the basket case way your club structure is organised.
Now, that is an opinion but it's based on facts and figures I have posted now and in the past and I will stand over what I am saying.
Unless there is radical change within the association and sooner rather than later, the whole shebang is gonna go tits up.

Hold on, make your mind up. Dublin GAA is a shambles in imminent danger of collapse or a superfinded juggernaut going to win everything for years. Pick one, it cant be both.

Or, you are rei forcing the point that all this is is the whining of culchie thicks who would rather hurl from the ditch than roll up tbe sleeves amd do what Dublin did.

[Rossfan]

Indeed.
Them lazy Laythrum hoors. They could have won 4 or 5 All Ireland's if they'd just rolled up their sleeves.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Indeed.
Them lazy Laythrum hoors. They could have won 4 or 5 All Ireland's if they'd just rolled up their sleeves.

So we agree. There was never some halcyon day when 32 counties were competitive. Some counties are better at football than others. Some smaller counties are better than other smaller counties because they work harder and are better organised. Handicapping Dublin won't make Leitrim any better.

[JoG2]

Indeed.
Them lazy Laythrum hoors. They could have won 4 or 5 All Ireland's if they'd just rolled up their sleeves.

So we agree. There was never some halcyon day when 32 counties were competitive. Some counties are better at football than others. Some smaller counties are better than other smaller counties because they work harder and are better organised. Handicapping Dublin won't make Leitrim any better.

You see Paul, it's this kind of delusion from a lot of Dubs that get's on people's goats. What most would like is for CP to cut down on the bottomless money pit re Dublin and attempt to level the playing field in as much as it can be leveled, what with all the other advantages Dublin enjoy.

[Fuzzman]

I'm curious to read people's different views on what are Dublin's advantages?
How much of them are public knowledge such as them receiving free food or vitamins etc?

How much more are they treated like professional sports men than other counties?
Are they offered jobs as coaches etc rather than them leaving for Aussie rules?

[Rossfan]

Free new car every 6 months.
A few miles to their Training place.
Not to mention the "coaching staff" as Gavin called them.
Financial subsidy from Central GAA.
6 figure jersey sponsorship.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Indeed.
Them lazy Laythrum hoors. They could have won 4 or 5 All Ireland's if they'd just rolled up their sleeves.

So we agree. There was never some halcyon day when 32 counties were competitive. Some counties are better at football than others. Some smaller counties are better than other smaller counties because they work harder and are better organised. Handicapping Dublin won't make Leitrim any better.

You see Paul, it's this kind of delusion from a lot of Dubs that get's on people's goats. What most would like is for CP to cut down on the bottomless money pit re Dublin and attempt to level the playing field in as much as it can be leveled, what with all the other advantages Dublin enjoy.

Paul?

If you think its just about money, go out and grab your slice. Stop whinging that another county is better organised. Nobody has pointed to any scheme or fund Dublin are tapping that other counties cant.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Free new car every 6 months.
A few miles to their Training place.
Not to mention the "coaching staff" as Gavin called them.
Financial subsidy from Central GAA.
6 figure jersey sponsorship.

Dublin players get new cars every 6 months? Really?

DCU is not 'a few miles' for most players. Should they move out to an inaccesuble location?

Dublin invented coaching staff. No other county has them.

Every county gets central funding. The lwvel we can discuss, but give over claiming its just for Dubs.

Should we negotiate sponsors down?

The problem is that its all a bit silly. The idea that Dubs should apologise for being better. Better organised, better commercially, better at planning is laughable. I dont think some of our country cousins appreciate how far behind soccer in terms of playing numbers and reach we are in Dublin. The DCB have done huge work in moving the games outside the heartlands, admittedly often to the detriment of traditional areas.

[The Hill is Blue]

Free new car every 6 months.
A few miles to their Training place.
Not to mention the "coaching staff" as Gavin called them.
Financial subsidy from Central GAA.
6 figure jersey sponsorship.

Dublin players get new cars every 6 months? Really?

DCU is not 'a few miles' for most players. Should they move out to an inaccesuble location?

Dublin invented coaching staff. No other county has them.

Every county gets central funding. The lwvel we can discuss, but give over claiming its just for Dubs.

Should we negotiate sponsors down?

The problem is that its all a bit silly. The idea that Dubs should apologise for being better. Better organised, better commercially, better at planning is laughable. I dont think some of our country cousins appreciate how far behind soccer in terms of playing numbers and reach we are in Dublin. The DCB have done huge work in moving the games outside the heartlands, admittedly often to the detriment of traditional areas.

Fair dues to you for trying but you're up against rabid anti-Dublin begrudgery which I've witnessed on this board and it's predecessor for at least twenty years. So don't think that it's just about Dublin winning - I first experienced it at a time when Dublin couldn't win a game. Some people will always find an excuse to hate Dublin. It's the way it's always been.

[priceyreilly]

The Dubs are so so predictable. 

When you say "walking the walk", you really mean receiving millions upon millions of euro to buy success. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. That you or any other Dub can't even mention the money shows that there is a deep guilt there. You will refer to it as "getting our house in order" or terms of similar meaning. You well then refer to anyone who brings up your doping as "begrudgers", "bitter people" etc. If not that you will try to deflect "it's not our fault your county are sh1t" or similar.
This is all a form of lashing out. It really stings that you have no argument against the fact that you were doped to success. None. Instead of facing up to the reality and admitting it to yourselves, you try to convince each other that it's only the nasty culchies telling lies, they are all just jealous etc. I think some Dubs have said this so much that they are actually starting to believe it. But as I said, they know the truth deep down and that's why it hurts. They can't fully enjoy the success because they know it's unjust. The thing is that it won't go away. It's not going to disappear. In 10, 20, 30, 50 years time people will still remember this doping.
It will be like looking back on Michelle Smith. She still has 3 Olympic gold medals, in the record books but then you think, well, she only won them because of the doping.

[dublin7]

The Dubs are so so predictable. 

When you say "walking the walk", you really mean receiving millions upon millions of euro to buy success. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. That you or any other Dub can't even mention the money shows that there is a deep guilt there. You will refer to it as "getting our house in order" or terms of similar meaning. You well then refer to anyone who brings up your doping as "begrudgers", "bitter people" etc. If not that you will try to deflect "it's not our fault your county are sh1t" or similar.
This is all a form of lashing out. It really stings that you have no argument against the fact that you were doped to success. None. Instead of facing up to the reality and admitting it to yourselves, you try to convince each other that it's only the nasty culchies telling lies, they are all just jealous etc. I think some Dubs have said this so much that they are actually starting to believe it. But as I said, they know the truth deep down and that's why it hurts. They can't fully enjoy the success because they know it's unjust. The thing is that it won't go away. It's not going to disappear. In 10, 20, 30, 50 years time people will still remember this doping.
It will be like looking back on Michelle Smith. She still has 3 Olympic gold medals, in the record books but then you think, well, she only won them because of the doping.

You're right. They play and they win. It's an added bonus that it upsets you so much.

[priceyreilly]

I'm curious to read people's different views on what are Dublin's advantages?
How much of them are public knowledge such as them receiving free food or vitamins etc?

How much more are they treated like professional sports men than other counties?
Are they offered jobs as coaches etc rather than them leaving for Aussie rules?

More and more people are becoming aware of the level of doping we're dealing with here. The same old excuses just aren't working anymore.
It starts with creating elite level players. This has been done at huge expense. It's what gets ignored by many, often purposely. The games development money is not just to attract more players to play GAA. As part of the master plan, an elite player pathway was created. This had an instant impact and has provided Dublin with a conveyor belt of players who've been trained to a high level both physically and skill wise. This is in both football and hurling. The aim of the elite pathway is to have players fully developed by 20/21 and prepared for senior action at that stage. Underage titles are competed for but kinda irrelevant to the overall scheme. This is the biggest issue in all of this. No matter what you do at senior level, you will find it difficult to achieve anything without the players. For Dublin, this conveyor belt has been financed by money from the government, the GAA and the Leinster council. In other words, it's been financed by everyone, be they a member of the GAA or not. Millions upon millions of euro from all of us has been handed to Dublin GAA to fund this system.
After this, you can add everything else in. The sponsorship money, the huge backroom teams, the free meals, free cars, games at home, population advantage, best facilities, not having to travel, etc etc. But that's just an add on to the major injustice. The player development system was the game changer.

[priceyreilly]

The Dubs are so so predictable. 

When you say "walking the walk", you really mean receiving millions upon millions of euro to buy success. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. That you or any other Dub can't even mention the money shows that there is a deep guilt there. You will refer to it as "getting our house in order" or terms of similar meaning. You well then refer to anyone who brings up your doping as "begrudgers", "bitter people" etc. If not that you will try to deflect "it's not our fault your county are sh1t" or similar.
This is all a form of lashing out. It really stings that you have no argument against the fact that you were doped to success. None. Instead of facing up to the reality and admitting it to yourselves, you try to convince each other that it's only the nasty culchies telling lies, they are all just jealous etc. I think some Dubs have said this so much that they are actually starting to believe it. But as I said, they know the truth deep down and that's why it hurts. They can't fully enjoy the success because they know it's unjust. The thing is that it won't go away. It's not going to disappear. In 10, 20, 30, 50 years time people will still remember this doping.
It will be like looking back on Michelle Smith. She still has 3 Olympic gold medals, in the record books but then you think, well, she only won them because of the doping.

You're right. They play and they win. It's an added bonus that it upsets you so much.

Lance Armstrong won a lot! The problem for the Dubs is that with every single title won, it's getting closer and closer to the split. Some Dublin supporters are secretly hoping they lose!

[dublin7]

God darn it. You've uncovered Dublin's plan to create a master race to bring about world domination.

The county board probably thought they might have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for some people with waaaaaaaaaaay too much time on their hands and over active imaginations😭