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Wonder who put Armagh there myself

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 30, 2024, 05:45:48 PMWonder who put Armagh there myself

https://twitter.com/sportsdes/status/1774021067205439924

Didn't know Olly was Des!

I think we're capable if we played to our best of beating Derry and given Kerry are in around the same level them as well. Laugh away but we drew with Derry after 90 minutes of football last year. Would imagine the Dubs would need to have a fair off day for us (or anyone else tbh) to beat them.

Equally we could very easily lose to the likes of Tyrone or Donegal.

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2024, 06:49:53 AMI think we're capable if we played to our best of beating Derry and given Kerry are in around the same level them as well. Laugh away but we drew with Derry after 90 minutes of football last year. Would imagine the Dubs would need to have a fair off day for us (or anyone else tbh) to beat them.

Equally we could very easily lose to the likes of Tyrone or Donegal.

After today I wouldn't even be confident of getting out of the group.

All Ireland semi final spot is Armagh's ceiling. Could easily have reached one the last two years losing out on penalty shoot outs.

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Quote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2024, 06:49:53 AMI think we're capable if we played to our best of beating Derry and given Kerry are in around the same level them as well. Laugh away but we drew with Derry after 90 minutes of football last year. Would imagine the Dubs would need to have a fair off day for us (or anyone else tbh) to beat them.

Equally we could very easily lose to the likes of Tyrone or Donegal.

After today I wouldn't even be confident of getting out of the group.

On a positive note- I don't think we'll be as bad as that again today. 3 handy frees missed among other chances.

I don't know

3 Contenders for Sam
7 or 8 for 5 Qtr Final places.

Quote from: Rossfan on April 01, 2024, 02:38:35 PM3 Contenders for Sam
7 or 8 for 5 Qtr Final places.

The preliminary QF model means that the one of the 8 will get into the Qfs directly, the other 7 will battle in the preliminary QFs with one low Div 2 team who made it through. The preliminary Qfs might be quite competitive games, 4 teams will go through, one of these teams will not meet a big three team and so will reach the semi-finals.

I said it on the the Div 2 thread, and I know it's very wishful thinking, but when it got very toght a few times yesterday the less established Dubs made some poor choices on the ball and seemed a bit unsure if a Con, Fenton or Kilkenny were not there.

But, it's unusual to see them in any way rattled, so I don't see them being stopped. There is some hope too in the goal chances that were coughed up too.

Quote from: Rossfan on April 01, 2024, 02:38:35 PM3 Contenders for Sam
7 or 8 for 5 Qtr Final places.

There are two contenders for Sam - Kerry and Dublin.

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Quote from: Rossfan on April 01, 2024, 02:38:35 PM3 Contenders for Sam
7 or 8 for 5 Qtr Final places.

There are two contenders for Sam - Kerry and Dublin.

I don't think Kerry are above Derry at the minute.

Too dependent on 2 Cliffords and O'Se up top.

There are 3 contenders for Sam, Dublin, Derry and Kerry. Tyrone and Mayo are an outside bet. It pains me to say it but I can't see Armagh or Donegal doing it. The gap was so wide between the two finals yesterday.

Quote from: Applesisapples on April 01, 2024, 06:06:51 PMThere are 3 contenders for Sam, Dublin, Derry and Kerry. Tyrone and Mayo are an outside bet. It pains me to say it but I can't see Armagh or Donegal doing it. The gap was so wide between the two finals yesterday.

Not as wide as the gap between Dublin v Tyrone in their recent meeting.

Dublin and Derry were on a different planet to Donegal and Armagh yesterday so going by that themselves and the Cliffords are the favourites for Sam.

However league finals will count for very little come the proper stuff so I wouldn't base everything off them.

Dublin will win it again. Yesterday will have galvanised and annoyed them.

Quote from: tonto1888 on April 01, 2024, 07:17:29 PMDublin will win it again. Yesterday will have galvanised and annoyed them.

Gavins Dublin yes you'd expect a big reaction and them to blow Derry away in championship.

This team isn't at that level probably a slightly better team than Derry when push comes to shove but not a million miles ahead. Think they'll still win it but Derry will run them close if they meet.

Armagh went way back from Last year, I don't know if Armagh supporters can see it, but their whole game is all about sitting very deep, it just doesnt work.

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 08:11:58 PMArmagh went way back from Last year, I don't know if Armagh supporters can see it, but their whole game is all about sitting very deep, it just doesnt work.

Hoping yesterday was just a bad day at the office. Lack of intensity and Donegal were able to get space in and around the D very easily which is worrying and you'd hope that won't happen come championship.

We seem to set up defensively to match defensive teams, we did it against Monaghan last year too and it really doesn't suit us. If Derry were playing Donegal they'd impose their own gameplan and take the game to them whereas we don't. We looked good for ten minutes yesterday when we took the handbrake off and played to our strengths. Chaos suits us.

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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 08:11:58 PMArmagh went way back from Last year, I don't know if Armagh supporters can see it, but their whole game is all about sitting very deep, it just doesnt work.

Hoping yesterday was just a bad day at the office. Lack of intensity and Donegal were able to get space in and around the D very easily which is worrying and you'd hope that won't happen come championship.

We seem to set up defensively to match defensive teams, we did it against Monaghan last year too and it really doesn't suit us. If Derry were playing Donegal they'd impose their own gameplan and take the game to them whereas we don't. We looked good for ten minutes yesterday when we took the handbrake off and played to our strengths. Chaos suits us.

Yesterday was a Division 2 final, once promoted this game is nothing more than a run out for most teams. Especially teams who have been in the first division recently.

Many on here were comparing it to the Division One final where there was a LEAGUE TITLE to be won. Naturally the intensity for that game would be greater.

Armagh have no collective balls, that is our biggest problem.

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Quote from: Armagh18 on April 01, 2024, 08:18:39 PM

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 08:11:58 PMArmagh went way back from Last year, I don't know if Armagh supporters can see it, but their whole game is all about sitting very deep, it just doesnt work.

Hoping yesterday was just a bad day at the office. Lack of intensity and Donegal were able to get space in and around the D very easily which is worrying and you'd hope that won't happen come championship.

We seem to set up defensively to match defensive teams, we did it against Monaghan last year too and it really doesn't suit us. If Derry were playing Donegal they'd impose their own gameplan and take the game to them whereas we don't. We looked good for ten minutes yesterday when we took the handbrake off and played to our strengths. Chaos suits us.

Yesterday was a Division 2 final, once promoted this game is nothing more than a run out for most teams. Especially teams who have been in the first division recently.

Many on here were comparing it to the Division One final where there was a LEAGUE TITLE to be won. Naturally the intensity for that game would be greater.

Don't get that mentality at all. Theres 3 trophies at the start of the year you can win and that was one. We certainly haven't won anywhere newr enough in the last decade and a half to be turning our noses up at silverware. 

if derry got knocked out by donegal what will derrys seeding be  is derry guarenteed pot 2 or can they go into pot 3

The losing of Sundays match for Armagh was not so much their defence but rather mistakes at the other  end. Needlessly running down cut de sac's, McMullan also kicked 3 wides with no support  from the score getters. They also  turned the ball over too easy. I don't think this can be fixed but I hope to stand to be corrected. They also hit the post and missed a couple of frees/marks.

Quote from: Eire90 on April 02, 2024, 09:47:43 AMif derry got knocked out by donegal what will derrys seeding be  is derry guarenteed pot 2 or can they go into pot 3

Pot two is for the provincial losers I think?

Quote from: tonto1888 on April 02, 2024, 12:42:01 PM

Quote from: Eire90 on April 02, 2024, 09:47:43 AMif derry got knocked out by donegal what will derrys seeding be  is derry guarenteed pot 2 or can they go into pot 3

Pot two is for the provincial losers I think?

If same as last year:

Pot 1 - provincial winners
Pot 2 - provincial losers
Pot 3 - top 4 remaining league rankings
Pot 4 - 4 next league rankings/Tailteann Cup winner

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 08:11:58 PMArmagh went way back from Last year, I don't know if Armagh supporters can see it, but their whole game is all about sitting very deep, it just doesnt work.

They have time to fix it. The panel is talented and accuracy will improve. 
The League is not to be taken at face value these days.

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 08:11:58 PMArmagh went way back from Last year, I don't know if Armagh supporters can see it, but their whole game is all about sitting very deep, it just doesnt work.

With playing in lower league division it remains to be seen if they have gone back from last year.  2023 playing in Division 1 they used the sit deep tactics and in the seven games scored 2-89 and conceded 3-89

This year in Div 2 (8 games) scored 9-119 and conceded 2-95.

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 08:11:58 PMArmagh went way back from Last year, I don't know if Armagh supporters can see it, but their whole game is all about sitting very deep, it just doesnt work.

Oh we can see it. Not sure we have went back though. We can play good front foot attacking football. We just don't

Betting on the 4 named teams:
Dublin 13/8
Kerry 5/2
Derry 9/2
Armagh 20/1

O'Neill taking piss Armagh be lucky to get ulster final https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-keys-what-if-dublin-or-kerry-had-to-play-in-the-ulster-championship/a207127514.html

Quote from: bennydorano on April 01, 2024, 10:37:03 PMArmagh have no collective balls, that is our biggest problem.

Handcuffs at dawn.

Can somebody answer me this.

Does the provincial winners follow the same rota as before the group stages were introduced.

For example will Derry meet Dublin in the semis this year if they both win provincials, top their groups and win their respective quarter finals.

**(Derry have met Munster champions and Connacht champions in past two semis so would be due the Dubs)**

Or is it open draw in this new system?

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 09, 2024, 10:15:17 PMCan somebody answer me this.

Does the provincial winners follow the same rota as before the group stages were introduced.

For example will Derry meet Dublin in the semis this year if they both win provincials, top their groups and win their respective quarter finals.

**(Derry have met Munster champions and Connacht champions in past two semis so would be due the Dubs)**

Or is it open draw in this new system?

I think rule is teams are kept apart where possible who have already met, e.g. Derry and Monaghan last year.

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 09, 2024, 10:15:17 PMCan somebody answer me this.

Does the provincial winners follow the same rota as before the group stages were introduced.

For example will Derry meet Dublin in the semis this year if they both win provincials, top their groups and win their respective quarter finals.

**(Derry have met Munster champions and Connacht champions in past two semis so would be due the Dubs)**

Or is it open draw in this new system?

A draw will be used for the All Ireland semi finals.

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Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 09, 2024, 10:15:17 PMCan somebody answer me this.

Does the provincial winners follow the same rota as before the group stages were introduced.

For example will Derry meet Dublin in the semis this year if they both win provincials, top their groups and win their respective quarter finals.

**(Derry have met Munster champions and Connacht champions in past two semis so would be due the Dubs)**

Or is it open draw in this new system?

A draw will be used for the All Ireland semi finals.

That was my initial instinct but have you seen this confirmed anywhere?

As Eamonn Fitzmaurice was saying on the RTE GAA Podcast last week that Derry and Dublin would be due to meet in them Semis if they keep their winning runs going?

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Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 09, 2024, 10:15:17 PMCan somebody answer me this.

Does the provincial winners follow the same rota as before the group stages were introduced.

For example will Derry meet Dublin in the semis this year if they both win provincials, top their groups and win their respective quarter finals.


**(Derry have met Munster champions and Connacht champions in past two semis so would be due the Dubs)**

Or is it open draw in this new system?

I think rule is teams are kept apart where possible who have already met, e.g. Derry and Monaghan last year.

Oh yes I remember that now wasn't sure what you meant there; so the old system is gone and Eamonn Fitzmaurice was incorrect.

Its amazing how many experts get things wrong in podcasts which add to the confusion.

On the Independent GAA Podcast they spent a bit of time discussing how unfair it was on Westmeath that all Kildare had to do to get to the All Ireland series after losing all their league games was to beat Westmeath in the Leinster championship; without considering that they have to beat either Wexford or Louth aswell in the Semis.

Dick Clerkin and Colm Keys I think it was.

Wicklow subsequently beat Westmeath anyways.

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 09, 2024, 10:15:17 PMCan somebody answer me this.

Does the provincial winners follow the same rota as before the group stages were introduced.



Or is it open draw in this new system?

See Rule 6.12.(v) ;)

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 10, 2024, 09:22:17 AM

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 09, 2024, 10:33:22 PM

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 09, 2024, 10:15:17 PMCan somebody answer me this.

Does the provincial winners follow the same rota as before the group stages were introduced.

For example will Derry meet Dublin in the semis this year if they both win provincials, top their groups and win their respective quarter finals.


**(Derry have met Munster champions and Connacht champions in past two semis so would be due the Dubs)**

Or is it open draw in this new system?

I think rule is teams are kept apart where possible who have already met, e.g. Derry and Monaghan last year.

Oh yes I remember that now wasn't sure what you meant there; so the old system is gone and Eamonn Fitzmaurice was incorrect.

Its amazing how many experts get things wrong in podcasts which add to the confusion.

On the Independent GAA Podcast they spent a bit of time discussing how unfair it was on Westmeath that all Kildare had to do to get to the All Ireland series after losing all their league games was to beat Westmeath in the Leinster championship; without considering that they have to beat either Wexford or Louth aswell in the Semis.

Dick Clerkin and Colm Keys I think it was.

Wicklow subsequently beat Westmeath anyways.

Was a few in the media that was talking up Westmeath as the 2nd best in Leinster after winning the Div 3 title and how they were looking forward to the Westmeath v Kildare match. Must have been music to Wicklows ears.

You don't have to be a mastermind to work out the 3 teams who are in the mix to win SAM...Dublin, Kerry and Derry. Kerry and Derry would be similar in levels with Dublin just ahead.

The chasing pack...well take your pick, anyone of 7-8 teams can make a semi final.
Galway if they get their main players fit
Mayo if they lift that damn curse...lol
Tyrone if they can be more consistent (hopefully not...lol)
Armagh if they can get some luck on the day
Donegal if they can get their injured players back fit for Championship
Rossies with a bit of luck
Cavan just like a bad fart, can't seem to get rid of them easily and linger around.
Cork can be dangerous and bloody someones nose

It would be a major shock if the 2024 Sam Maguire winner does not come from the first 3 mentioned...Sin e

Quote from: illdecide on April 10, 2024, 03:28:19 PMYou don't have to be a mastermind to work out the 3 teams who are in the mix to win SAM...Dublin, Kerry and Derry. Kerry and Derry would be similar in levels with Dublin just ahead.

The chasing pack...well take your pick, anyone of 7-8 teams can make a semi final.
Galway if they get their main players fit
Mayo if they lift that damn curse...lol
Tyrone if they can be more consistent (hopefully not...lol)
Armagh if they can get some luck on the day
Donegal if they can get their injured players back fit for Championship
Rossies with a bit of luck
Cavan just like a bad fart, can't seem to get rid of them easily and linger around.
Cork can be dangerous and bloody someones nose

It would be a major shock if the 2024 Sam Maguire winner does not come from the first 3 mentioned...Sin e

Armagh if McGeeney decides to let the team play proper football like they did for the majority of the league

Dublin.

Armagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 08:21:26 PMArmagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

;)

In all seriousness, bar drawing Dublin I'd be very disappointed if we don't make a semi final. Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Mayo all very good teams but have their flaws, time we pushed on, sick of hard luck stories at the qf stage.

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Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 08:21:26 PMArmagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

;)

In all seriousness, bar drawing Dublin I'd be very disappointed if we don't make a semi final. Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Mayo all very good teams but have their flaws, time we pushed on, sick of hard luck stories at the qf stage.

You have a serious chance of making top seed and then a 66% chance of drawing Clare or Louth/Kildare as 2nd seed in your group. Avoid the preliminary quarter final thereafter and you're set up to beat the hard luck stories!

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 09:10:22 PM

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 22, 2024, 08:39:03 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 08:21:26 PMArmagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

;)

In all seriousness, bar drawing Dublin I'd be very disappointed if we don't make a semi final. Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Mayo all very good teams but have their flaws, time we pushed on, sick of hard luck stories at the qf stage.

You have a serious chance of making top seed and then a 66% chance of drawing Clare or Louth/Kildare as 2nd seed in your group. Avoid the preliminary quarter final thereafter and you're set up to beat the hard luck stories!

Donegal have to be favourites for Ulster and serious All Ireland contenders after that performance at the weekend.

Derry will be fresher in the round Robin and have fewer injuries. Ulster is the hardest province to win.

We see more what they like against Tyrone, hard to base on the Derry game, as they were gifted 3 goals and a easy enough penalty.

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 22, 2024, 09:42:36 PMWe see more what they like against Tyrone, hard to base on the Derry game, as they were gifted 3 goals and a easy enough penalty.

I'm not sure Tyrone will be much of a challenge.

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 09:10:22 PM

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 22, 2024, 08:39:03 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 08:21:26 PMArmagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

;)

In all seriousness, bar drawing Dublin I'd be very disappointed if we don't make a semi final. Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Mayo all very good teams but have their flaws, time we pushed on, sick of hard luck stories at the qf stage.

You have a serious chance of making top seed and then a 66% chance of drawing Clare or Louth/Kildare as 2nd seed in your group. Avoid the preliminary quarter final thereafter and you're set up to beat the hard luck stories!

Sam is Armagh's to lose this year. If they don't win Sam, will it be seen as a failure and signal the end for McGeeney?

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 22, 2024, 09:19:50 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 09:10:22 PM

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 22, 2024, 08:39:03 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 08:21:26 PMArmagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

;)

In all seriousness, bar drawing Dublin I'd be very disappointed if we don't make a semi final. Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Mayo all very good teams but have their flaws, time we pushed on, sick of hard luck stories at the qf stage.

You have a serious chance of making top seed and then a 66% chance of drawing Clare or Louth/Kildare as 2nd seed in your group. Avoid the preliminary quarter final thereafter and you're set up to beat the hard luck stories!

Donegal have to be favourites for Ulster and serious All Ireland contenders after that performance at the weekend.

I Watched Donegal back last night. To say they blew Derry off the field is an understatement.  Probably the biggest shock in football since they bate the dubs in 2014 and yer man was at the helm then also.  Mc Guinness takes a lot of flak but I think he is a strategic genius and he has rebuilt Donegal again. Can they win the all Ireland. Id put them ahead of Derry at the moment who will now suffer from an inferiority complex with the teams who beat them, as they always do..

The All Ireland is like the grand national. Kerry , Galway and derry all performed below capacity. On the other hand, so what. The real deal starts in the quarter finals.

I just can't see Dublin being caught when it comes to when it really matters. I'm also going to have a punt on Kilkenny as POTY. He is playing far more direct again.

The older stagers like McCarthy and Mick Fitz also add so much. Then if Jack McCaffrey gets right...

Hard to know where the others really are, and Kerry will be cagey too till they need to show their hand.

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Quote from: Armagh18 on April 22, 2024, 09:19:50 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 09:10:22 PM

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 22, 2024, 08:39:03 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 08:21:26 PMArmagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

;)

In all seriousness, bar drawing Dublin I'd be very disappointed if we don't make a semi final. Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Mayo all very good teams but have their flaws, time we pushed on, sick of hard luck stories at the qf stage.

You have a serious chance of making top seed and then a 66% chance of drawing Clare or Louth/Kildare as 2nd seed in your group. Avoid the preliminary quarter final thereafter and you're set up to beat the hard luck stories!

Donegal have to be favourites for Ulster and serious All Ireland contenders after that performance at the weekend.

I Watched Donegal back last night. To say they blew Derry off the field is an understatement.  Probably the biggest shock in football since they bate the dubs in 2014 and yer man was at the helm then also.  Mc Guinness takes a lot of flak but I think he is a strategic genius and he has rebuilt Donegal again. Can they win the all Ireland. Id put them ahead of Derry at the moment who will now suffer from an inferiority complex with the teams who beat them, as they always do..

Ah now, hold on there!

I know you'll be wanting to build us up ahead of the weekend, but it was one game, and a game that Jim had six months to prepare for. There's no way in hell we're winning an AI this year. Even Ulster will take a huge effort given what's still there.

Jim is an superb coach, no question, but he can only work with what's there. There are no Murphys or Laceys or McGees in our current squad. And let's see what happens when he comes up against a team that gives us the kick-out and jams up the field inside their 50. We do have good long-range shooters, but it's not a reliable way to win every game.

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Quote from: Armagh18 on April 22, 2024, 09:19:50 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 09:10:22 PM

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 22, 2024, 08:39:03 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 08:21:26 PMArmagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

;)

In all seriousness, bar drawing Dublin I'd be very disappointed if we don't make a semi final. Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Mayo all very good teams but have their flaws, time we pushed on, sick of hard luck stories at the qf stage.

You have a serious chance of making top seed and then a 66% chance of drawing Clare or Louth/Kildare as 2nd seed in your group. Avoid the preliminary quarter final thereafter and you're set up to beat the hard luck stories!

Donegal have to be favourites for Ulster and serious All Ireland contenders after that performance at the weekend.

I Watched Donegal back last night. To say they blew Derry off the field is an understatement.  Probably the biggest shock in football since they bate the dubs in 2014 and yer man was at the helm then also.  Mc Guinness takes a lot of flak but I think he is a strategic genius and he has rebuilt Donegal again. Can they win the all Ireland. Id put them ahead of Derry at the moment who will now suffer from an inferiority complex with the teams who beat them, as they always do..

Biggest shock since 2014?? You've a short memory don't you remember May 1st 2022??

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Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 09:10:22 PM

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 22, 2024, 08:39:03 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on April 22, 2024, 08:21:26 PMArmagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

;)

In all seriousness, bar drawing Dublin I'd be very disappointed if we don't make a semi final. Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Mayo all very good teams but have their flaws, time we pushed on, sick of hard luck stories at the qf stage.

You have a serious chance of making top seed and then a 66% chance of drawing Clare or Louth/Kildare as 2nd seed in your group. Avoid the preliminary quarter final thereafter and you're set up to beat the hard luck stories!

Sam is Armagh's to lose this year. If they don't win Sam, will it be seen as a failure and signal the end for McGeeney?

Should they not aim to win Ulster first?

Form up until now doesn't mean anything.
The season is a law unto itself