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#46
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
May 23, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: Thebigdog on May 23, 2018, 09:33:34 AM
Quote from: outsideoftheboot on May 23, 2018, 09:22:26 AM
Harte receives a lot more abuse off the ball than any other player on the team. He's harassed and bullied and gets no protection from referees or team mates. Referees need to make their helping officials more aware of these sledging matches.

I believe that affected Darren hughes and not beggan when talking about missing the international series due to scotstown championship campaign? although they were later flown out after the first test.
sledging is part of the game. The noughties team were the masters of it. It should be embraced. As for Peter getting protection from others. Would he protect them? Probably not. It wouldn't surprise me if other players resented Mickey s nephew. I would.

LOL, you resent him because you couldnt lace his boots?
#47
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
May 11, 2018, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: The Sweeper.com on May 11, 2018, 01:01:07 PM
Prediction time

Division 1
Clonoe O'Rahilly's   V   Killyclogher St Mary's
Dromore St Dympna's   V   Aghyaran St Davog's
Moy Tír na nÓg   V   Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa
Edendork St Malachy's   V   Coalisland Fianna
Donaghmore St Patrick's   V   Carrickmore St Colmcille's
Galbally Pearse's   V   Derrylaughan Kevin Barry's
Errigal Ciaran   V   Omagh St Enda's

Division 2
Owen Roe O'Neill's   V   Dungannon Thomas Clarke's
Strabane Sigerson's   V   Augher St Macartan's
Aghaloo O'Neill's   V   Eglish St Patrick's
Derrytresk Fir an Chnoic   V   Kildress Wolfe Tone's
Greencastle St Patrick's   V   Loughmacrory St Teresa's
Tattyreagh St Patrick's   V   Gortin St Patrick's
Stewartstown Harp's   V   Cookstown Fr Rock's
Urney St Columba's   V   Moortown St Malachy's


Division 3
Eskra Emmet's   V   Dregish Pearse Óg
Errigal Ciaran   V   Clogher Eire Ó
Killyman St Mary's   V   Rock St Patrick's
Clann na nGael   V   Drumquin Wolfe Tone's
Drumragh Sarsfield's   V   Killeeshil St Mary's
Brackaville Eoghan Rua   V   Fintona Pearse's
Glenelly St Joseph's   V   Brocagh Emmet's
Newtownstewart St Eugene's   V   Beragh Red Knights- draw
#48
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
May 03, 2018, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: The Sweeper.com on May 02, 2018, 10:42:01 AM
Prediction time:

Division 1
Pomeroy Plunkett's   V   Clonoe O'Rahilly's
Aghyaran St Davog's   V   Omagh St Enda's
Dromore St Dympna's   V   Errigal Ciaran
Trillick St Macartan's   V   Killyclogher St Mary's
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa   V   Carrickmore St Colmcille's
Galbally Pearse's   V   Edendork St Malachy's
Coalisland Fianna   V   Derrylaughan Kevin Barry's
Donaghmore St Patrick's   V   Moy Tír na nÓg

Division 2
Gortin St Patrick's   V   Derrytresk Fir an Chnoic
Aghaloo O'Neill's   V   Greencastle St Patrick's
Urney St Columba's   V   Owen Roe O'Neill's
Kildress Wolfe Tone's   V   Strabane Sigerson's
Dungannon Thomas Clarke's   V   Tattyreagh St Patrick's
Moortown St Malachy's   V   Eglish St Patrick's
Augher St Macartan's   V   Stewartstown Harp's
Loughmacrory St Teresa's   V   Cookstown Fr Rock's

Division 3
Eskra Emmet's   V   Glenelly St Joseph's
Rock St Patrick's   V   Drumragh Sarsfield's
Beragh Red Knight's   V   Errigal Ciaran
Brocagh Emmet's   V   Brackaville Eoghan Rua
Castlederg St Eugene's   V   Clann na nGael
Drumquin Wolfe Tone's   V   Dregish Pearse Óg
Clogher Eire Óg   V   Newtownstewart St Eugene's
Killeeshil St Mary's   V   Killyman St Mary's
#49
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
May 03, 2018, 12:46:02 PM
Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on May 03, 2018, 12:34:58 PM
Quote from: bigpackiechestout on May 03, 2018, 11:53:36 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on May 03, 2018, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on May 03, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: bigpackiechestout on May 03, 2018, 10:35:50 AM
I was disappointed to see Mugsy in the papers trying to stir up controversy in return for a few quid from Paddy power. I think he was particularly harsh on Morgan and don't think that a fellow Tyrone man, and former team mate of Nialls, should be sticking the knife in like this. He said that Brennan would kick the longer range frees blindfolded, if Mugsy was watching Tyrone in the league this year at all he would know this is not the case. Lee racked up a big tally from frees throughout the league but it has to be said that a number of these were handy ones from close in and that he was guilty of missing a few longer range ones. It's also very easy to say that Lee should hit, and would score, all of our frees but the fact remains that he hasn't been tested in the white heat of a championship match that is in the balance so the jury should remain out until this happens.

Mugsy also claimed that our style is too defensive and that he would like to see Lee, Bradley, Skeet and Harte all playing closer to goal. Again, has he not been watching Tyrone this year? This was exactly the forward line v Donegal and Mayo in our good run towards the end of the League and Niall Sludden was also playing further up the pitch.

I didnt get reading it but did Mugsy state that none of the Tyrone forwards would have got on any of the Tyrone teams that won All Ireland.
Agree of Disagree? IMO its hard to disagree, Certainly not in the first 2 all Ireland wins anyway!!
Maybe Sludden would be the only one who would come close to it and even at that you'd have to throw him in at wing forward cause B.McGuigan certainly wouldnt be replaced

He's absolutely correct. None of them would have got onto the teams of the 00s. That in itself is no insult, just reality.

Are we not classing Matty Donnelly or Petey Harte as forwards? Because either of them would have made those teams. In case you have all forgotten, Ryan Mellon, Marty Penrose and Tommy McGuigan all started in All Ireland finals in the 00s.

Did Penrose start All Ireland Final? I cant rememenber

Mellon was outstanding, that performance against the Dubs in the rain where he scored the goal, Man off the match in All Ireland final? He certainly would never have been droppped from that team!

Tommy McGuigan-  Goal in the All ireland final!!

Even at this, where would you put Matty and Harte then Corner forward? Because both Matty and Harte have shown they arent  half the player they are on the full forward line..
Dont get me wrong great players but as forwards on the 00's team, I dont think so.
Ill use an example..

Dooher McGuigan Mellon
Mugsey Canavan Oneil

Who do you drop?

Did that forward line ever start together?
#50
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
April 25, 2018, 03:44:50 PM
Moy v dromore game postponed again tonight due to a waterlogged pitch  ::)
#51
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
April 13, 2018, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on April 13, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
Official word about the fixtures at the end of the month?

Friday games pulled
#52
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
April 13, 2018, 02:26:33 PM
Moy v Trillick
Ardboe v Pomeroy
Carrickmore v Clonoe
Dromore v Derrylaughan
Galbally v Aghyaran
Killyclogher v Donaghmore
Omagh v Edendork
Coalisland v Errigal Ciaran

Augher v Eglish
Derrytresk v Tattyreagh
Aghaloo v Kildress
Dungannon v Stewatrstown
Moortown v Loughmacrory
Owen Roes v Gortin
Strabane v Cookstown
Urney v Greencastle

Errigal Ciaran v Eskra
Beragh v Drumquin
Brackaville v Kileeshil
Castlederg v Glenelly
Clann na Gael v Fintona
Clogher v Drumragh
Killyman v Dregish
Rock v Newtownstewart
#53
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
April 06, 2018, 12:28:22 PM
Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on April 06, 2018, 11:33:57 AM
Any fixture list and predictions this wkend?


Pomeroy   v   Derrylaughan-    -pomeroy
Omagh   v   An Charraig Mhor -carrickmore
Errigal Ciaran   v   Donaghmore -errigal
Trillick   v   Galbally- trillick
Edendork   v   Clonoe-clonoe
Ardboe   v   Aghyaran- ardboe
Moy   v   Dromore- dromore
Coalisland   v   Killyclogher- coalisland
Cookstown   v   Kildress- cookstown
Loughmacrory   v   Eglish eglish
Gortin   v   Moortown gortin
Greencastle   v   Stewartstown stewartstown
Dungannon   v   Aghaloo dungannon
Urney   v   Tattyreagh tattyreagh
Derrytresk   v   Augher augher
Owen Roes   v   Strabane draw
Newtownstewart   v   Errigal Ciaran newtown
Eskra   v   Brackaville eskra
Dregish   v   Beragh beragh
Glenelly   v   Clan na nGael clan na gael
Drumquin   v   Clogher clogher
Killeeshil   v   Castlederg castlederg
Fintona   v   Killyman fintona
Brockagh   v   Rock rock
Drumragh   v   Bye

#54
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
March 26, 2018, 12:20:21 PM
games at 3 and 4.30 on a sat. Brilliant for the working man :(
#55
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
March 01, 2018, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on March 01, 2018, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: chieftain on March 01, 2018, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on March 01, 2018, 12:18:03 PM
i dont believe a county the size of tyrone with all they underage structures and quality club football should be happy just winning ulsters.

Tell us about underage in your own club stg, who has broke through the ranks and came onto the tyrone panel in the last few years? Because from the outside looking in, underage in tyrone is not as healthy as it is portrayed.

The problem is simple and again I will reiterate what is it, we have about 100 footballers of the same calibre in tyrone. We dont have a brian dooher, stephen o neill, peter canavan type player, to name but a few. To prove my point how many tyrone players on the current panel would have got on in 2003/2005??
impossible to compare 03/05 team with now. one team was allowed to play football and show how good they could be, the other isnt. we are still delivering all irelands at underage, 2015 u21s and 2017 under 17s so must be doing something right although im not sure if its the acadamies or the clubs delivering this. i suspect its the clubs.

so your telling me its the same manager who in 2003 allowed players to play but in 2018 isnt allowing the players to play? Catch yourself on man and realise that its because of the class of footballers we have now on the county panel that we are currently 4th- 8th in Ireland on our day.





#56
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
March 01, 2018, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on March 01, 2018, 12:18:03 PM
i dont believe a county the size of tyrone with all they underage structures and quality club football should be happy just winning ulsters.

Tell us about underage in your own club stg, who has broke through the ranks and came onto the tyrone panel in the last few years? Because from the outside looking in, underage in tyrone is not as healthy as it is portrayed.

The problem is simple and again I will reiterate what is it, we have about 100 footballers of the same calibre in tyrone. We dont have a brian dooher, stephen o neill, peter canavan type player, to name but a few. To prove my point how many tyrone players on the current panel would have got on in 2003/2005??
#57
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
January 26, 2018, 02:37:13 PM
Cant see conal mccann and mcnulty starting, be one or the other with frank burns/ mulgrew (if fit) to come into the half forwards, also expect to see mark bradley in there somewhere from the start.
#58
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
January 08, 2018, 09:48:39 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on January 08, 2018, 09:13:58 AM
There are some interesting prospects there.

I'd like to see some change in the full back line, I think we need more natural man markers there so chance for the likes of McKernan, HP McGeary, Cassidy and Burns to make a claim.

Ronan McHugh seems to have done reasonably well scoring rise in his run outs so far, looks like he might still have a bit of filling out to do but he's the only natural inside man we have around the 6ft mark.

I hope we will be more inclined to give a few of the lads who were on the periphery last year more of a run out this year. The likes of Cassidy, HP McGeary, Lee Brennan, McHugh need to get some game time in the league to adequately assess them. It would also be good to see if Rory Brennan, Richie Donnelly, McNabb and Meyler can shake off these niggly injuries they seem to be constantly carrying.

Loughran will be another good option when Moy conclude their club year.

For the league opener against Galway I think I'd like to see something along the following lines:

1. Morgan
2. McKernan
3. McCarron
4. Cassidy
5. T McCann
6. Hampsey
7. K McGeary
8. McNulty
9. McClure
10. M Donnelly
11. Sludden
12. F Burns
13. L Brennan
14. McHugh
15. McAliskey

Be a decent tyrone team when peter harte isnt in your first 15.
#59
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
December 20, 2017, 11:31:23 AM
Whos the p mccallen over cookstown? big oz?
#60
Tyrone / Re: Co. Board/Garvaghey etc
December 13, 2017, 10:21:00 AM
Quote from: longballin on December 13, 2017, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: skeog on December 13, 2017, 09:43:46 AM
Legal action being considered acccording to Irish News a public inquiry needed to unearth the fake emailer.

Common knowledge where that came from and wasn't a player at all. Pure dirty tricks to undermine Roisin

What was in email?