Premier League 2021-22

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thewobbler

Quote from: maldini on January 15, 2022, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2022, 08:47:45 PM
Childish and then some

Facts are facts

Why aren't United winning everything

Unless you believe that Man City's rise to their current levels of form began on 1 Jan after Torres left the club, you aren't  dealing in facts. You're dealings in fairy stories.

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United have shown extraordinary levels of ineptitude in the transfer market since Ferguson left: buying players for the sake/show of it rather than players they need. They actually looked like they were going to get it right this summer when they signed two established players to move straight into 2 of their 3 problematic positions. Then instead of securing a midfielder they went and signed Ronaldo when they already had a wealth of forwards. Until they change this approach they'll never compete for major honours again.


seafoid

Burnley are bottom but have only played 17 games, 5 less than Man City. Leicester and Tottenham have played 18 games. It's a bit trína chéile.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

mrdeeds

Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2022, 08:27:54 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on January 15, 2022, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2022, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2022, 05:47:37 PM
Spurs vs Arsenal postponed... will the same crazies who got outraged over Liverpool have the same outrage over this ??

I'm quite annoyed at this one.

Arsenal have one positive covid case. But the EPL have decided to factor in injuries, suspensions and AFCON commitments to postpone a match, and at 26 hours notice. It's a disgusting and dangerous precedent and the EPL will end up regretting it.

Bull the precedent was set early in December when united and spurs got multiple games off. Since loads of teams have taken advantage of the rules.
Liverpool faked a covid outbreak last week and not a word about it. No game should ever have been postponed and Arsenal well within their rights to request game postponement. Can't be one rule for everyone else and different for Arsenal

Well within their rights?

They have one covid case.

Two cases. Exact same as Wolves when they got game v Arsenal off. But it's an issue now all of a sudden???? Hypocrisy.

J70

Quote from: oliverkelly on January 15, 2022, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2022, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2022, 05:47:37 PM
Spurs vs Arsenal postponed... will the same crazies who got outraged over Liverpool have the same outrage over this ??

I'm quite annoyed at this one.

Arsenal have one positive covid case. But the EPL have decided to factor in injuries, suspensions and AFCON commitments to postpone a match, and at 26 hours notice. It's a disgusting and dangerous precedent and the EPL will end up regretting it.

Bull the precedent was set early in December when united and spurs got multiple games off. Since loads of teams have taken advantage of the rules.
Liverpool faked a covid outbreak last week and not a word about it.
No game should ever have been postponed and Arsenal well within their rights to request game postponement. Can't be one rule for everyone else and different for Arsenal

Ah, so Liverpool "faked" it now?

Amazing how quickly and seamlessly the accepted narrative can be changed. ::)

Armagh18

Quote from: J70 on January 16, 2022, 12:30:20 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on January 15, 2022, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2022, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2022, 05:47:37 PM
Spurs vs Arsenal postponed... will the same crazies who got outraged over Liverpool have the same outrage over this ??

I'm quite annoyed at this one.

Arsenal have one positive covid case. But the EPL have decided to factor in injuries, suspensions and AFCON commitments to postpone a match, and at 26 hours notice. It's a disgusting and dangerous precedent and the EPL will end up regretting it.

Bull the precedent was set early in December when united and spurs got multiple games off. Since loads of teams have taken advantage of the rules.
Liverpool faked a covid outbreak last week and not a word about it.
No game should ever have been postponed and Arsenal well within their rights to request game postponement. Can't be one rule for everyone else and different for Arsenal

Ah, so Liverpool "faked" it now?

Amazing how quickly and seamlessly the accepted narrative can be changed. ::)
15 false positives sounds like bullshit to me.

Teams looking games postponed should have been told where to go from the start.

RedHand88

Quote from: oliverkelly on January 15, 2022, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2022, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2022, 05:47:37 PM
Spurs vs Arsenal postponed... will the same crazies who got outraged over Liverpool have the same outrage over this ??

I'm quite annoyed at this one.

Arsenal have one positive covid case. But the EPL have decided to factor in injuries, suspensions and AFCON commitments to postpone a match, and at 26 hours notice. It's a disgusting and dangerous precedent and the EPL will end up regretting it.

Bull the precedent was set early in December when united and spurs got multiple games off. Since loads of teams have taken advantage of the rules.
Liverpool faked a covid outbreak last week and not a word about it. No game should ever have been postponed and Arsenal well within their rights to request game postponement. Can't be one rule for everyone else and different for Arsenal

Have you ANY evidence that Liverpool "faked a covid outbreak" besides the fact that you don't like them?

Think about who all would be in on such a conspiracy to produce fake positive tests -the club, the testing lab, etc.
You probably didn't even realise that Liverpool would have had to submit enough evidence to postpone to the EFL to postpone the game.

Cavan19

Quote from: RedHand88 on January 17, 2022, 09:23:03 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on January 15, 2022, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2022, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2022, 05:47:37 PM
Spurs vs Arsenal postponed... will the same crazies who got outraged over Liverpool have the same outrage over this ??

I'm quite annoyed at this one.

Arsenal have one positive covid case. But the EPL have decided to factor in injuries, suspensions and AFCON commitments to postpone a match, and at 26 hours notice. It's a disgusting and dangerous precedent and the EPL will end up regretting it.

Bull the precedent was set early in December when united and spurs got multiple games off. Since loads of teams have taken advantage of the rules.
Liverpool faked a covid outbreak last week and not a word about it. No game should ever have been postponed and Arsenal well within their rights to request game postponement. Can't be one rule for everyone else and different for Arsenal

Have you ANY evidence that Liverpool "faked a covid outbreak" besides the fact that you don't like them?

Think about who all would be in on such a conspiracy to produce fake positive tests -the club, the testing lab, etc.
You probably didn't even realise that Liverpool would have had to submit enough evidence to postpone to the EFL to postpone the game.

It's highly unlikely that there were 40 false positives tests in one round of testing there had to be something going on here but i don't know what. If the club were up to something i don't think they would sit down and decide lets get 40 positive tests back that will get the game off when 10 probably would have done the same job.

It had to be a lab mess up.

mrdeeds

Quote from: Cavan19 on January 17, 2022, 09:43:03 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 17, 2022, 09:23:03 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on January 15, 2022, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2022, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2022, 05:47:37 PM
Spurs vs Arsenal postponed... will the same crazies who got outraged over Liverpool have the same outrage over this ??

I'm quite annoyed at this one.

Arsenal have one positive covid case. But the EPL have decided to factor in injuries, suspensions and AFCON commitments to postpone a match, and at 26 hours notice. It's a disgusting and dangerous precedent and the EPL will end up regretting it.

Bull the precedent was set early in December when united and spurs got multiple games off. Since loads of teams have taken advantage of the rules.
Liverpool faked a covid outbreak last week and not a word about it. No game should ever have been postponed and Arsenal well within their rights to request game postponement. Can't be one rule for everyone else and different for Arsenal

Have you ANY evidence that Liverpool "faked a covid outbreak" besides the fact that you don't like them?

Think about who all would be in on such a conspiracy to produce fake positive tests -the club, the testing lab, etc.
You probably didn't even realise that Liverpool would have had to submit enough evidence to postpone to the EFL to postpone the game.

It's highly unlikely that there were 40 false positives tests in one round of testing there had to be something going on here but i don't know what. If the club were up to something i don't think they would sit down and decide lets get 40 positive tests back that will get the game off when 10 probably would have done the same job.

It had to be a lab mess up.

Over a one in billion chance.

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/ken-early-manchester-city-s-dominance-a-reminder-the-rich-always-get-their-way-1.4778060Players today are told to avoid shooting from distance by coaches who have studied the stats and know precisely how low the chances of scoring from out there really are. Teams now aim to work the ball into a better position before pulling the trigger. The result is that the long-range screamer – arguably the most thrilling sight in football – is being optimised out of the game. Football evolves, while the fans pine for what's been lost.

Most of us don't watch football for technical quality or tactical intrigue. We're watching because we want to feel something – and the risk of defeat adds savour to the joy of victory. In the simplest terms, we like a bit of end-to-end. No coach despises end-to-end more than Guardiola. His teams are designed to exert the maximum of control and allow the absolute minimum of randomness and uncertainty.

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

J70

Quote from: mrdeeds on January 17, 2022, 10:13:13 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on January 17, 2022, 09:43:03 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 17, 2022, 09:23:03 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on January 15, 2022, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2022, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2022, 05:47:37 PM
Spurs vs Arsenal postponed... will the same crazies who got outraged over Liverpool have the same outrage over this ??

I'm quite annoyed at this one.

Arsenal have one positive covid case. But the EPL have decided to factor in injuries, suspensions and AFCON commitments to postpone a match, and at 26 hours notice. It's a disgusting and dangerous precedent and the EPL will end up regretting it.

Bull the precedent was set early in December when united and spurs got multiple games off. Since loads of teams have taken advantage of the rules.
Liverpool faked a covid outbreak last week and not a word about it. No game should ever have been postponed and Arsenal well within their rights to request game postponement. Can't be one rule for everyone else and different for Arsenal

Have you ANY evidence that Liverpool "faked a covid outbreak" besides the fact that you don't like them?

Think about who all would be in on such a conspiracy to produce fake positive tests -the club, the testing lab, etc.
You probably didn't even realise that Liverpool would have had to submit enough evidence to postpone to the EFL to postpone the game.

It's highly unlikely that there were 40 false positives tests in one round of testing there had to be something going on here but i don't know what. If the club were up to something i don't think they would sit down and decide lets get 40 positive tests back that will get the game off when 10 probably would have done the same job.

It had to be a lab mess up.

Over a one in billion chance.

As you're bringing odds into it, which is more likely?

A lab screw up, or a conspiracy to fake tests on the part of LFC?

thewobbler

The most likely scenario is that Liverpool didn't record any more than a couple of positive cases, but decided to try their luck with the EFL for a postponement anyway, which was met with surprisingly little requirement for proof / documentation. When the game came around again, Scouse tested everyone again but actually provided the full results this time. Rather than admit they pulled a fly one, they blamed faulty tests.

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Cue mass hysteria at this this suggestion from Liverpool fan boys who regard it as their personal mission to deflect and protect their beloved club from untoward comments, regardless of how balanced or rational or consistent the comments are.

J70

Your comments are balanced and rational but those of Liverpool fans are biased?

Conspiracy theory v lab f**k up.

laoislad

The loonies still outraged over Liverpool postponing a game  ;D
They've played two games since, maybe it's time to move on like?
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

thewobbler

Quote from: J70 on January 17, 2022, 11:39:43 AM
Your comments are balanced and rational but those of Liverpool fans are biased?

Conspiracy theory v lab f**k up.

Things I cannot understand:

1: why Leicester fans can't accept that it's wrong for James Maddison to attend the world darts when the Christmas football peak meets omnicron.

2. Why Arsenal fans can't accept that no matter what happens to them, they will have more players to pick from when the spurs game is rescheduled, and it had nothing to do with Covid.

3. Why Liverpool fans can't accept that it was convenient and timely to conjure up a short break for their small squad of senior pros in early January.

Have your allegiances, by all means. But please, don't behave like a 9 year old when "your" club is under the spotlight.

As mentioned previously, the culture of professional soccer is one of institutionalised cheating. No matter who your  beloved club is, if you think they wouldn't lie to take advantage of a situation, then you're beyond help.

trueblue1234

Quote from: thewobbler on January 17, 2022, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: J70 on January 17, 2022, 11:39:43 AM
Your comments are balanced and rational but those of Liverpool fans are biased?

Conspiracy theory v lab f**k up.

Things I cannot understand:

1: why Leicester fans can't accept that it's wrong for James Maddison to attend the world darts when the Christmas football peak meets omnicron.

2. Why Arsenal fans can't accept that no matter what happens to them, they will have more players to pick from when the spurs game is rescheduled, and it had nothing to do with Covid.

3. Why Liverpool fans can't accept that it was convenient and timely to conjure up a short break for their small squad of senior pros in early January.

Have your allegiances, by all means. But please, don't behave like a 9 year old when "your" club is under the spotlight.

As mentioned previously, the culture of professional soccer is one of institutionalised cheating. No matter who your  beloved club is, if you think they wouldn't lie to take advantage of a situation, then you're beyond help.

The ego on this one. 😂😂

Don't behave like a spoilt child just cause someone doesn't believe your opinion. You are not an oracle despite your belief that you are.
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