GAA attendance 2021

Started by joemamas, June 09, 2021, 03:34:07 PM

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johnnycool

The Brits are going balls out with the opening up and exponential growth in the Delta virus at the same time.

It will be interesting if the vaccinations break the infection/hospitalisation chain and then the mutation of new strains..

Nice of Boris to put the life of people at risk in a huge experiment on this..

dec

Thousands, or even tens of thousands of people, outside watching a sports event is probably not a big risk. Standing around talking to people before or after a game, in a pub or elsewhere is probably a much bigger risk.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: dec on July 01, 2021, 04:06:39 PM
Thousands, or even tens of thousands of people, outside watching a sports event is probably not a big risk. Standing around talking to people before or after a game, in a pub or elsewhere is probably a much bigger risk.
It is a much bigger risk indoors especially for those people not fully vaccinated. For now watching a match outdoor is the way to go. Kerry have shown the way already if you aren't attending the match.




red hander

Quote from: johnnycool on July 01, 2021, 03:56:12 PM
The Brits are going balls out with the opening up and exponential growth in the Delta virus at the same time.

It will be interesting if the vaccinations break the infection/hospitalisation chain and then the mutation of new strains..

Nice of Boris to put the life of people at risk in a huge experiment on this..

What they're doing is going for herd immunity, but they haven't the decency or principles to admit it.

joemamas

So a month later, thought it may be worth revisiting.
As of last Saturday July 31st, according to the government, we had 72.5% fully vaccinated.
To be fair pretty impressive given where we were in terms of vaccinations in June.
However, we should not forget that the restaurant and pub openings and most likely attendances at GAA games were impacted by the doomsday scenarios of us having over 2,000 covid cases per day by late July into August.

Well low and behold, here we are August 3rd, the actually number is closer to 1,000, well I guess the doomsayers were only 50% off in their projections. I was lucky enough to be in Croke Park a week ago last Sunday to see Mayo V Galway. How it came to pass that 18k were only allowed into to an outdoor stadium, all of them wearing masks and most likely given the demographics, 80+% were vaccinated just beggars belief. What science was used that Hill 16 had to be totally empty.
How three weeks later, that number has been generously increased to 24k, at a time where you can finally have a meal or a drink indoors.

You left Croke park, walked up two streets and you could have a pint outside without restrictions rightly so IMO, where again is the science.
The silence from Croke Park and the GAA hierarchy is deafening.
Roll on ten days from now, the incumbent politicians will be squirming that they allowed a health board to dictate policy into outdoor stadiums attendances based on little more than a doomsday case scenario of covid #, that did not even come close to projections.


viperhiggins

Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 01, 2021, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: dec on July 01, 2021, 04:06:39 PM
Thousands, or even tens of thousands of people, outside watching a sports event is probably not a big risk. Standing around talking to people before or after a game, in a pub or elsewhere is probably a much bigger risk.
It is a much bigger risk indoors especially for those people not fully vaccinated. For now watching a match outdoor is the way to go. Kerry have shown the way already if you aren't attending the match.



If you are not vaccinated by now surely you aren't at risk?

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: viperhiggins on August 04, 2021, 06:55:46 AM
If you are not vaccinated by now surely you aren't at risk?

How do you work that out, ie, why are the COVID-19 cases and hospital admissions continuing to rise, right now, in Ireland and Britain?

'Herd Immunity', is not yet secured, and the scientific community reckon that 90% of the population need to be fully vaccinated in order to have any chance of breaking the infection chain.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

joemamas

From the Irish times today.
88% have had first dose
75% fully vaccinated.

WTF, match this with the science that says you can only have 24k out of 82k in an outdoor stadium, with everyone wearing a mask.

armaghniac

Quote from: joemamas on August 05, 2021, 03:09:51 PM
From the Irish times today.
88% have had first dose
75% fully vaccinated.

WTF, match this with the science that says you can only have 24k out of 82k in an outdoor stadium, with everyone wearing a mask.

There is no conflict in the science. Even with 24K, if you allow children in then you will have 5k unvaccinated persons, plenty of scope for substantial numbers of cases there.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Mayo4Sam14

Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 05, 2021, 03:09:51 PM
From the Irish times today.
88% have had first dose
75% fully vaccinated.

WTF, match this with the science that says you can only have 24k out of 82k in an outdoor stadium, with everyone wearing a mask.

There is no conflict in the science. Even with 24K, if you allow children in then you will have 5k unvaccinated persons, plenty of scope for substantial numbers of cases there.

Ask for proof of vaccination/negative covid test and open up fully
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

Mayo4Sam14

I'm far from an anti-vax or lockdown type, in fact I've been quite critical of the government because I think they rushed multiple openings in the past 18 months. But 24k in an 82.5k stadium when 75%+ are vaccinated is a joke. It's just going to cause over crowded pubs anyway!

I suppose it's grand when you're a politician and the mass gatherings rules don't apply to you anyway
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

armaghniac

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 05, 2021, 06:18:10 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 05, 2021, 03:09:51 PM
From the Irish times today.
88% have had first dose
75% fully vaccinated.

WTF, match this with the science that says you can only have 24k out of 82k in an outdoor stadium, with everyone wearing a mask.

There is no conflict in the science. Even with 24K, if you allow children in then you will have 5k unvaccinated persons, plenty of scope for substantial numbers of cases there.

Ask for proof of vaccination/negative covid test and open up fully

In somewhere the size of Croke park you could do both the present strategy and this. Proof of vaccine could get you a good seat between the 45s and every seat occupied, but those without this could be rather more scattered at the ends of the stadium. Then you could have more in the ground.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Mayo4Sam14

Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2021, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 05, 2021, 06:18:10 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 05, 2021, 03:09:51 PM
From the Irish times today.
88% have had first dose
75% fully vaccinated.

WTF, match this with the science that says you can only have 24k out of 82k in an outdoor stadium, with everyone wearing a mask.

There is no conflict in the science. Even with 24K, if you allow children in then you will have 5k unvaccinated persons, plenty of scope for substantial numbers of cases there.

Ask for proof of vaccination/negative covid test and open up fully

In somewhere the size of Croke park you could do both the present strategy and this. Proof of vaccine could get you a good seat between the 45s and every seat occupied, but those without this could be rather more scattered at the ends of the stadium. Then you could have more in the ground.

You can do a b or c, there's so many options, but it's clear that a quarter full Croker is a joke
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

JoG2

Quote from: clarshack on August 05, 2021, 11:13:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2021, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 05, 2021, 06:18:10 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 05, 2021, 03:09:51 PM
From the Irish times today.
88% have had first dose
75% fully vaccinated.

WTF, match this with the science that says you can only have 24k out of 82k in an outdoor stadium, with everyone wearing a mask.

There is no conflict in the science. Even with 24K, if you allow children in then you will have 5k unvaccinated persons, plenty of scope for substantial numbers of cases there.

Ask for proof of vaccination/negative covid test and open up fully

In somewhere the size of Croke park you could do both the present strategy and this. Proof of vaccine could get you a good seat between the 45s and every seat occupied, but those without this could be rather more scattered at the ends of the stadium. Then you could have more in the ground.

So a social credit system where the jabbed get better seats.

The jabbed ie those doing their bit to end this virus for all. How would you have viewed, for example, MMR anti-vaxers before Covid? Be honest

Franko

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 05, 2021, 12:46:28 PM
Quote from: viperhiggins on August 04, 2021, 06:55:46 AM
If you are not vaccinated by now surely you aren't at risk?

How do you work that out, ie, why are the COVID-19 cases and hospital admissions continuing to rise, right now, in Ireland and Britain?

'Herd Immunity', is not yet secured, and the scientific community reckon that 90% of the population need to be fully vaccinated in order to have any chance of breaking the infection chain.

Admissions, occupancy and new case numbers are all falling in the six and GB?