All the pressure is on Kerry to deliver an All Ireland in 2021

Started by TheGreatest, May 13, 2021, 11:54:54 AM

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seafoid

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2021, 01:41:09 PM
This. Also they were beat by a point - one point.
they brought Dublin to a draw in 2019. A draw.
They were beaten in 2020 by a last minute goal. A last minute goal

It's not good enough for Kerry.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-30951089.html
"the roll of honour is a more important thing to protect and that becomes a challenge for the next decade".
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Hound on August 30, 2021, 12:54:33 PM
For a team that was supposedly tactically inept and supposedly not prepared for Tyrone’s aggression and who missed one of the most gilt edged goal chances you’d ever see, they did draw the game. Against a team playing out of its skin.

Even in extra time, with Kerry out on their feet, down by 5 points, without their talisman, they still managed to give themselves a great chance to snatch a last gasp equalizer.

With some of the post match media analysis, you’d swear they were beat out the gate!

Reading this kinda shows why Mayo are favourites for the final. Of the two semi final wins Mayos was the more impressive and they beat a better team who was much harder to beat.

As good as Tyrones  hard earned win was against Kerry i doubt they'd be in the final if they played Dublin in the semi final as key to beating Dublin was holding them to 0-14 in 90 minutes.

seafoid

Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 30, 2021, 12:54:33 PM
For a team that was supposedly tactically inept and supposedly not prepared for Tyrone's aggression and who missed one of the most gilt edged goal chances you'd ever see, they did draw the game. Against a team playing out of its skin.

Even in extra time, with Kerry out on their feet, down by 5 points, without their talisman, they still managed to give themselves a great chance to snatch a last gasp equalizer.

With some of the post match media analysis, you'd swear they were beat out the gate!

Reading this kinda shows why Mayo are favourites for the final. Of the two semi final wins Mayos was the more impressive and they beat a better team who was much harder to beat.

As good as Tyrones  hard earned win was against Kerry i doubt they'd be in the final if they played Dublin in the semi final as key to beating Dublin was holding them to 0-14 in 90 minutes.
Especially considering the first half of Mayo v Dublin
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Various bits from the Irish times

Two issues at half-time: Tyrone were clearly ahead in all of the indicative areas, more tackles and turnovers as well as on the scoreboard and for all Kerry's highly-rated forwards, just two, Seán O'Shea, well marked by Pádraig Hampsey, and David Clifford had exclusively bagged all the scores; they would finish with 0-16 out of a total of 0-22.

Four of the outstanding six points were scored in extra time and so for the first 70 minutes, Kerry's attacks were somewhat predictable.

The goal encapsulated another manifest advantage for Tyrone: their bench added vigour and excitement.

All in all, a big setback for Kerry, who as soon as Dublin went out were written up as overwhelming favourites for the All-Ireland.

Maybe the worst of it for Kerry is that they finish the season with no new lament to sing. They didn't find out anything about themselves on Saturday night that they didn't already know. Or at least, in their heart of hearts, suspect. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Everything that has held them back from adding a 38th All-Ireland title to the pile since their last one in 2014 was evident in abundance against Tyrone. A forward unit relying on a brilliant free-taker to kick his frees and a generational talent to be generational and not get hurt. A middle third of willing, largely interchangeable worker bees. A defence that is quick but light and far too often exposed.

This summer confirmed that losing to Cork like that was a one-off. But it has also confirmed that the much-decried defensive system Peter Keane was trying to impose in 2020 was there for a reason. That reason didn't disappear just because the fallout from the Cork defeat made setting up like that again in 2021 a non-starter.

Fundamentally, Kerry have had a shortage of reliable, knotty defenders for the best part of a decade now. They have one All Star defender from the past five seasons, Tom O'Sullivan's 2019 award standing alone.

For the fourth time in five seasons – and the third in a row – Kerry go out of the championship without scoring a goal in their final game.

Yet even on one leg – and barely on it at that – Clifford was still Kerry's most reliable route to the scoreboard. They scored two more points in those 15 remaining normal-time minutes, one of them an O'Shea free after Clifford was fouled and the other a free that Clifford tapped over himself.

Kerry's dependence on the boy prince isn't healthy for him or them.
Incredibly, this defeat means Kerry have won just one of their last 11 games in league and championship in Croke Park.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Aaron Boone

Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 30, 2021, 12:54:33 PM
For a team that was supposedly tactically inept and supposedly not prepared for Tyrone's aggression and who missed one of the most gilt edged goal chances you'd ever see, they did draw the game. Against a team playing out of its skin.

Even in extra time, with Kerry out on their feet, down by 5 points, without their talisman, they still managed to give themselves a great chance to snatch a last gasp equalizer.

With some of the post match media analysis, you'd swear they were beat out the gate!

Reading this kinda shows why Mayo are favourites for the final. Of the two semi final wins Mayos was the more impressive and they beat a better team who was much harder to beat.

As good as Tyrones  hard earned win was against Kerry i doubt they'd be in the final if they played Dublin in the semi final as key to beating Dublin was holding them to 0-14 in 90 minutes.

Mayo's formline definitely stronger. They are worthy favourites to bring Sam Maguire home and end the hoodoo.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: seafoid on August 30, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
Especially considering the first half of Mayo v Dublin
Was a carbon copy of the 1st half v Galway and enough evidence not to write Mayo off if Tyrone happen to lead the 1st half of this upcoming final by a couple of points.

Mayos conditioning and ability to up the gears in intensity is what won the Connacht final and All-Ireland semi final.

TheGreatest

Told you all the pressure would get to them....

Well done Tyrone..

manfromdelmonte

Well look, Keane will be gone.

Most of the backroom team hail from south west Kerry, his brother up in the stands watching the game and providing radio support.

seafoid

Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 30, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
Especially considering the first half of Mayo v Dublin
Was a carbon copy of the 1st half v Galway and enough evidence not to write Mayo off if Tyrone happen to lead the 1st half of this upcoming final by a couple of points.

Mayos conditioning and ability to up the gears in intensity is what won the Connacht final and All-Ireland semi final.
Plus they took out Shane Walsh. As Sylvie Linnane observed,"lads ye won't win anything without a few tinkers.."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

fearsiuil

Quote from: seafoid on September 03, 2021, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 30, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
Especially considering the first half of Mayo v Dublin
Was a carbon copy of the 1st half v Galway and enough evidence not to write Mayo off if Tyrone happen to lead the 1st half of this upcoming final by a couple of points.

Mayos conditioning and ability to up the gears in intensity is what won the Connacht final and All-Ireland semi final.
Plus they took out Shane Walsh. As Sylvie Linnane observed,"lads ye won't win anything without a few tinkers.."
You mean Shane Walsh bit off more than he could chew.

An té nach bhfuil láidir ní foláir dó a bheith glic. Ní raibh Shane glic.

FearAnFhírinne

Quote from: fearsiuil on September 03, 2021, 12:44:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 03, 2021, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 30, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
Especially considering the first half of Mayo v Dublin
Was a carbon copy of the 1st half v Galway and enough evidence not to write Mayo off if Tyrone happen to lead the 1st half of this upcoming final by a couple of points.

Mayos conditioning and ability to up the gears in intensity is what won the Connacht final and All-Ireland semi final.
Plus they took out Shane Walsh. As Sylvie Linnane observed,"lads ye won't win anything without a few tinkers.."
You mean Shane Walsh bit off more than he could chew.

An té nach bhfuil láidir ní foláir dó a bheith glic. Ní raibh Shane glic.
This. He tried to start something and he picked the wrong lad to try to bully. I'd say he's sorry now.

hoynevalley

Quote from: seafoid on September 03, 2021, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 30, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
Especially considering the first half of Mayo v Dublin
Was a carbon copy of the 1st half v Galway and enough evidence not to write Mayo off if Tyrone happen to lead the 1st half of this upcoming final by a couple of points.

Mayos conditioning and ability to up the gears in intensity is what won the Connacht final and All-Ireland semi final.
Plus they took out Shane Walsh. As Sylvie Linnane observed,"lads ye won't win anything without a few tinkers.."

Agree Keegan and O'Connor brother getting away with years. Horan  appointment on 2011 was game changer Mayo. no more mr nice guys. In fairness has paid off.

hoynevalley

Quote from: FearAnFhírinne on September 03, 2021, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: fearsiuil on September 03, 2021, 12:44:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 03, 2021, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 30, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
Especially considering the first half of Mayo v Dublin
Was a carbon copy of the 1st half v Galway and enough evidence not to write Mayo off if Tyrone happen to lead the 1st half of this upcoming final by a couple of points.

Mayos conditioning and ability to up the gears in intensity is what won the Connacht final and All-Ireland semi final.
Plus they took out Shane Walsh. As Sylvie Linnane observed,"lads ye won't win anything without a few tinkers.."
You mean Shane Walsh bit off more than he could chew.

An té nach bhfuil láidir ní foláir dó a bheith glic. Ní raibh Shane glic.
This. He tried to start something and he picked the wrong lad to try to bully. I'd say he's sorry now.

If a Tyrone or Kerry lad done what O'Hora did would be 2 match ban.

FearAnFhírinne

Quote from: hoynevalley on September 03, 2021, 04:02:38 PM
Quote from: FearAnFhírinne on September 03, 2021, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: fearsiuil on September 03, 2021, 12:44:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 03, 2021, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 30, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
Especially considering the first half of Mayo v Dublin
Was a carbon copy of the 1st half v Galway and enough evidence not to write Mayo off if Tyrone happen to lead the 1st half of this upcoming final by a couple of points.

Mayos conditioning and ability to up the gears in intensity is what won the Connacht final and All-Ireland semi final.
Plus they took out Shane Walsh. As Sylvie Linnane observed,"lads ye won't win anything without a few tinkers.."
You mean Shane Walsh bit off more than he could chew.

An té nach bhfuil láidir ní foláir dó a bheith glic. Ní raibh Shane glic.
This. He tried to start something and he picked the wrong lad to try to bully. I'd say he's sorry now.

If a Tyrone or Kerry lad done what O'Hora did would be 2 match ban.

Sure why not go the whole hog and claim the Kerry or Tyrone lads would have gotten 9 months of a ban?. If you're going to talk through you hoop you may as well go big or go home.

hoynevalley

Quote from: FearAnFhírinne on September 03, 2021, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: hoynevalley on September 03, 2021, 04:02:38 PM
Quote from: FearAnFhírinne on September 03, 2021, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: fearsiuil on September 03, 2021, 12:44:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 03, 2021, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 30, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
Especially considering the first half of Mayo v Dublin
Was a carbon copy of the 1st half v Galway and enough evidence not to write Mayo off if Tyrone happen to lead the 1st half of this upcoming final by a couple of points.

Mayos conditioning and ability to up the gears in intensity is what won the Connacht final and All-Ireland semi final.
Plus they took out Shane Walsh. As Sylvie Linnane observed,"lads ye won't win anything without a few tinkers.."
You mean Shane Walsh bit off more than he could chew.

An té nach bhfuil láidir ní foláir dó a bheith glic. Ní raibh Shane glic.
This. He tried to start something and he picked the wrong lad to try to bully. I'd say he's sorry now.

If a Tyrone or Kerry lad done what O'Hora did would be 2 match ban.

Sure why not go the whole hog and claim the Kerry or Tyrone lads would have gotten 9 months of a ban?. If you're going to talk through you hoop you may as well go big or go home.

You said Walsh picked on wrong lad.  No excuse for referee not to take action.  Lane missed OShea throwing punches at half time in that game in tunnel and running onto pitch before game finished last day. It strange TSG never highlight.this?