China Coronavirus

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Why bother getting one vaccine or even two? The booster isn't going to produce another head!

Because the  double vaccine clearly at this stage has worked against a seemingly more dangerous variant. Omicron doesn't seem as serious but that may change.
The booster doesn't seem to be needed if we look at the early data to keep you out of hospital. Nobody in their right mind would just take a vaccine just fir the sake of it.  If things change I'll get it. But for now I'm happy with 2jabs and immunity from my last infection.
Think that's reasonable and sensible. I'm very aware of pressure on NHS staff as priority atm.

Change things any?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59840524

It's a positive (excuse the pun), but hospitalisations from omricon isn't main issue, it's general transmission and subsequent absenteeism and booster doesn't seem to be stopping that at all.

[trueblue1234]

Why bother getting one vaccine or even two? The booster isn't going to produce another head!

Because the  double vaccine clearly at this stage has worked against a seemingly more dangerous variant. Omicron doesn't seem as serious but that may change.
The booster doesn't seem to be needed if we look at the early data to keep you out of hospital. Nobody in their right mind would just take a vaccine just fir the sake of it.  If things change I'll get it. But for now I'm happy with 2jabs and immunity from my last infection.
Think that's reasonable and sensible. I'm very aware of pressure on NHS staff as priority atm.

Change things any?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59840524

It's a positive (excuse the pun), but hospitalisations from omricon isn't main issue, it's general transmission and subsequent absenteeism and booster doesn't seem to be stopping that at all.

If hospitalisations are reduced enough and there are no more severe mutations then general transmission will become less of an issue. Hopefully if things continue to trend in the way they have been then isolation periods can be looked at. But we need to understand that while Omricon looks to be milder, it's still affecting the unvaccinated substantially more. So people would still need to be wary in refusing a booster.

[imtommygunn]

The big problem is society is going to struggle to be functional at some point with current isolation periods. When that point is is probably looming in the not that distant future.

[armaghniac]

Unvaxxed make up more than half the proportion in ROI ICU, although they are only about 5% of the population.

[From the Bunker]

[Blowitupref]

Unvaxxed make up more than half the proportion in ROI ICU, although they are only about 5% of the population.

And its reported the majority of Covid patients in ICU currently are infected with Delta rather than Omicron.

[Sportacus]

Why bother getting one vaccine or even two? The booster isn't going to produce another head!

Because the  double vaccine clearly at this stage has worked against a seemingly more dangerous variant. Omicron doesn't seem as serious but that may change.
The booster doesn't seem to be needed if we look at the early data to keep you out of hospital. Nobody in their right mind would just take a vaccine just fir the sake of it.  If things change I'll get it. But for now I'm happy with 2jabs and immunity from my last infection.
Think that's reasonable and sensible. I'm very aware of pressure on NHS staff as priority atm.

Change things any?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59840524

It's a positive (excuse the pun), but hospitalisations from omricon isn't main issue, it's general transmission and subsequent absenteeism and booster doesn't seem to be stopping that at all.

If hospitalisations are reduced enough and there are no more severe mutations then general transmission will become less of an issue. Hopefully if things continue to trend in the way they have been then isolation periods can be looked at. But we need to understand that while Omricon looks to be milder, it's still affecting the unvaccinated substantially more. So people would still need to be wary in refusing a booster.

In fact they could do us all a favour by getting the Booster which we are in the privileged position to have access to.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-health-service-in-for-rough-two-months-but-should-cope-1.4768791

With early research showing the protection offered by boosters waning after just one month, for example, what role will vaccination play in tackling Covid-19 in the future?

[From the Bunker]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-health-service-in-for-rough-two-months-but-should-cope-1.4768791

With early research showing the protection offered by boosters waning after just one month, for example, what role will vaccination play in tackling Covid-19 in the future?

The Partially vaccinated have invested a lot of trust in governments and the pharmaceutical industry.

[lenny]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-health-service-in-for-rough-two-months-but-should-cope-1.4768791

With early research showing the protection offered by boosters waning after just one month, for example, what role will vaccination play in tackling Covid-19 in the future?

That's protection from getting infected. You still have long lasting T cell protection from serious illness with the booster. That shows the vaccines are doing their job by keeping people out of hospital.

[trueblue1234]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-health-service-in-for-rough-two-months-but-should-cope-1.4768791

With early research showing the protection offered by boosters waning after just one month, for example, what role will vaccination play in tackling Covid-19 in the future?

The Partially vaccinated have invested a lot of trust in governments and the pharmaceutical industry.

Where as you invested time with John on Facebook who mentioned sheeple and big pharma so obviously knows his sh!te. 😂

[thebigfella]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-health-service-in-for-rough-two-months-but-should-cope-1.4768791

With early research showing the protection offered by boosters waning after just one month, for example, what role will vaccination play in tackling Covid-19 in the future?

The Partially vaccinated have invested a lot of trust in governments and the pharmaceutical industry.

Where as you invested time with John on Facebook who mentioned sheeple and big pharma so obviously knows his sh!te. 😂

Beat me to it 

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-health-service-in-for-rough-two-months-but-should-cope-1.4768791

With early research showing the protection offered by boosters waning after just one month, for example, what role will vaccination play in tackling Covid-19 in the future?

That's protection from getting infected. You still have long lasting T cell protection from serious illness with the booster. That shows the vaccines are doing their job by keeping people out of hospital.

The capacity of Covid to renew and deviate is the biggest challenge. Omicron had about 20 differences compared to Delta which meant vaccines were only 70% effective. This is why boosters were necessary.  We have to clamp down on the variant production process by vaccinating in developing countries.

[Wildweasel74]

I wonder how many guys got the flu jab on here before covid ever came out. I been getting it for yrs and understand that it reduced the risk of a severe dose of flu, not guarantee I wouldn't get it, which I did once. Covid is a more contingous form of the flu, meaning even if jabbed there still a fair chance of getting it. Vaccination about risk management and trying to reduce the outcome of many elderly or persons in poor health getting Covid. I can't understand the resistant to getting a jab to try help your parents/ grandparents or those at risk. If it was a airborne version of ebola and their was a vaccination against such, they be lining up.

[armaghniac]

The capacity of Covid to renew and deviate is the biggest challenge. Omicron had about 20 differences compared to Delta which meant vaccines were only 70% effective. This is why boosters were necessary.  We have to clamp down on the variant production process by vaccinating in developing countries.

This Corbevax, developed in the US funded by philanthropy and made in India, has no patent restriction and can be made throughout the world for $1.50 a pop. This could be a way to get everyone in 2022.
https://www.advancedsciencenews.com/corbevax-vaccine-offers-solution-to-global-vaccine-inequity/