ukraine regime change

[RadioGAAGAA]

The simple fact is anybody who is not in support of Ukraine's independence and its democracy and its right to align itself the way it wants - with the west - is de facto pro-war, pro-imperialism, pro-dictatorship, anti-the rights of smaller nations and anti-democracy.

So whats your take on Cuba then...?

[sid waddell]

The simple fact is anybody who is not in support of Ukraine's independence and its democracy and its right to align itself the way it wants - with the west - is de facto pro-war, pro-imperialism, pro-dictatorship, anti-the rights of smaller nations and anti-democracy.

So whats your take on Cuba then...?

Cuba is totally and utterly irrelevant to this discussion.

Have you got anything to contribute to the topic except an attempt at dumb whataboutery?

[RadioGAAGAA]

Cuba is totally and utterly irrelevant to this discussion.

You don't set the boundaries of this discussion nor is Cuba irrelevant.

Have you got anything to contribute to the topic except an attempt at dumb whataboutery?

You don't even have the brains to come back with Cuba's lack of democratic elections.

But your obviously quite happy to see the general population punished by their neighbouring states.

[sid waddell]

Cuba is totally and utterly irrelevant to this discussion.

You don't set the boundaries of this discussion nor is Cuba irrelevant.

Have you got anything to contribute to the topic except an attempt at dumb whataboutery?

You don't even have the brains to come back with Cuba's lack of democratic elections.

But your obviously quite happy to see the general population punished by their neighbouring states.

Last time I looked, Cuba was not near Ukraine.

Thanks for the insult.

If you want to give a relevant reply, I'm all ears.

[seafoid]

Ukraine is one of the poorest countries in Europe. It is hopelessly corrupt. And it has Russia as a neighbour. In the 1930s Stalin set off a famine there and the 1940s featured the Holocaust and a Nazi Occupation. Stalin came back after WW2. Now Putin wants to take the whole country back into Moscow's orbit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeLddbrzsHk

[RadioGAAGAA]

Last time I looked, Cuba was not near Ukraine.

Thanks for the insult.

If you want to give a relevant reply, I'm all ears.

Your some boy to be yapping about insults. Everything you touch on this board rapidly descends into poison.


Its nice to see you can at least read a map.

Of course, you've nothing substantive on why its OK for some countries to put Cubans through the mill and not OK for others to put Ukraine through a similar mill.

[general_lee]

So what's your thoughts on the Minsk Agreement? For or against?

Stop deflecting.

What right has Russia to tell any other country what to do?

What right has Russia to occupy another country?

Who is threatening war here?

I'll give you a hint. It isn't Ukraine. And it isn't NATO.

I'm not deflecting. Russia has no right to do any of those things, same way the west doesn't (but it doesn't stop them)
What Russia is and has been doing is no different to what NATO has done.

[sid waddell]

Last time I looked, Cuba was not near Ukraine.

Thanks for the insult.

If you want to give a relevant reply, I'm all ears.

Your some boy to be yapping about insults. Everything you touch on this board rapidly descends into poison.


Its nice to see you can at least read a map.

Of course, you've nothing substantive on why its OK for some countries to put Cubans through the mill and not OK for others to put Ukraine through a similar mill.

You're some boy to talk about "substantive" posts when you decide that a thread about Ukraine should not be about Ukraine and instead be about Cuba.

Poison, eh? Is that a nod to the favourite execution technique of the Russians?

[sid waddell]

So what's your thoughts on the Minsk Agreement? For or against?

Stop deflecting.

What right has Russia to tell any other country what to do?

What right has Russia to occupy another country?

Who is threatening war here?

I'll give you a hint. It isn't Ukraine. And it isn't NATO.

I'm not deflecting. Russia has no right to do any of those things, same way the west doesn't (but it doesn't stop them)
What Russia is and has been doing is no different to what NATO has done.

Indeed they have no right. No right at all.

Here's the thing, when you hear somebody waffling about NATO it's a dead giveaway that they're all they're here to do is to spout bullshit Russian whataboutery and propaganda.

NATO exists for a reason.

Russia is proving the reason for NATO's existence is a very good one indeed.

A non-NATO member on Russia's doorstep is already occupied and threatened with a coup and the installation of a Russian puppet regime and/or full occupation. For having the temerity to not be a vassal state.

Next door in Belarus, the people voted out their authoritarian leader in 2020, and his response was to reject the democratic wishes of the people, go full tyrant and invite the Russians in.

Russia interfered in Georgia and Moldova in order to hobble them on the international stage. Now it's done the same in Kazakhstan.

The lesson is - have the temerity to be a democracy or look like you might become a democracy, and Russia will crush you with its jackboots.

[Armagh18]

So what's your thoughts on the Minsk Agreement? For or against?

Stop deflecting.

What right has Russia to tell any other country what to do?

What right has Russia to occupy another country?

Who is threatening war here?

I'll give you a hint. It isn't Ukraine. And it isn't NATO.

I'm not deflecting. Russia has no right to do any of those things, same way the west doesn't (but it doesn't stop them)
What Russia is and has been doing is no different to what NATO has done.

Didn't the Americans help topple the pro-Russian government in Ukraine only with the last decade? No mention of that from most people.

[seafoid]

So what's your thoughts on the Minsk Agreement? For or against?

Stop deflecting.

What right has Russia to tell any other country what to do?

What right has Russia to occupy another country?

Who is threatening war here?

I'll give you a hint. It isn't Ukraine. And it isn't NATO.

I'm not deflecting. Russia has no right to do any of those things, same way the west doesn't (but it doesn't stop them)
What Russia is and has been doing is no different to what NATO has done.

Indeed they have no right. No right at all.

Here's the thing, when you hear somebody waffling about NATO it's a dead giveaway that they're all they're here to do is to spout bullshit Russian whataboutery and propaganda.

NATO exists for a reason.

Russia is proving the reason for NATO's existence is a very good one indeed.

A non-NATO member on Russia's doorstep is already occupied and threatened with a coup and the installation of a Russian puppet regime and/or full occupation. For having the temerity to not be a vassal state.

Next door in Belarus, the people voted out their authoritarian leader in 2020, and his response was to reject the democratic wishes of the people, go full tyrant and invite the Russians in.

Russia interfered in Georgia and Moldova in order to hobble them on the international stage. Now it's done the same in Kazakhstan.

The lesson is - have the temerity to be a democracy or look like you might become a democracy, and Russia will crush you with its jackboots.

Russia is paranoid. So are Israel and Poland.
World War 2 never ended.

[general_lee]

So what's your thoughts on the Minsk Agreement? For or against?

Stop deflecting.

What right has Russia to tell any other country what to do?

What right has Russia to occupy another country?

Who is threatening war here?

I'll give you a hint. It isn't Ukraine. And it isn't NATO.

I'm not deflecting. Russia has no right to do any of those things, same way the west doesn't (but it doesn't stop them)
What Russia is and has been doing is no different to what NATO has done.

Didn't the Americans help topple the pro-Russian government in Ukraine only with the last decade? No mention of that from most people.

Also no mention of the massive coordinated training exercises by NATO in a non-member state right next door to Russia. Of course mentioning facts like this makes you a Russian propagandist 😂

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Im guessing alot of lads here would have then supported Britains right to "defend" itself against the Irish threat for hundreds of years

[Milltown Row2]

Im guessing alot of lads here would have then supported Britains right to "defend" itself against the Irish threat for hundreds of years

Some are still defending it, even when they were for the Irish struggle and then changed their minds and were supporting the Brits 'struggle'

[johnnycool]

So what's your thoughts on the Minsk Agreement? For or against?

Stop deflecting.

What right has Russia to tell any other country what to do?

What right has Russia to occupy another country?

Who is threatening war here?

I'll give you a hint. It isn't Ukraine. And it isn't NATO.

Ever heard of a little island called Cuba?

What Russia is doing to Ukraine is as wrong as what the US is doing to Cuba