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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 07, 2022, 02:02:46 PM »
Yes, read that to, the info I found most interesting was 165 dead from covid only, all other deaths had accompanying morbidities.

Iím amazed at this stage you found that interesting tbh.

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 07, 2022, 01:11:15 PM »
Got this sent to me via whatsapp, found it massively interesting. A freedom of information request re covid. Forget about the twitter posters opinion, read the attached letter response

I read it. Unsure of what the point is to be honest. Out of 2817 deaths 2547 had covid as underlying cause. Is there something else Iíve missed?

General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - somewhat back on-topic!
« on: January 07, 2022, 01:02:41 PM »
That pesky Justice Colton who refused to accept the anti-protocol case is probably at the top of Hoey's list on this - and I laugh at the suggestion that he is part of some (formal or informal) network of nationalists trying to influence constitutional direction by virtue of his position. 

The strengthening of civic nationalism since Brexit is the greatest threat to DUP/TUV/Hoey and the status quo in NI that they have ever faced, and I agree with you @6th sam that it appears to be a case of "not on my watch".  Instead of focussing on their own civic unionism and persuading the middle "small u" ground, the clamour for the more extreme end of the unionist vote is likely to be detrimental to their medium and longer term chances of survival. Doug Beattie, on the other hand, is probably a much better candidate to do this more successfully.

The election in May will be interesting to see if UU and Doug can get the votes. I expect the hardliners to up the rhetoric significantly in the next few months to try to harness as many votes to the extreme side as possible. Other voters will divert to Alliance and as usual UU will fall down in the middle.
That's exactly my point - in the short term I expect the fear mongerers to win out with regard to the unionist vote and May is too soon to change that, but it is a short term victory only.  That pool of voters is getting smaller and smaller.  A moderate like Beattie has the potential to lead a new unionism that has a better chance of being successful in its aim to protect (prolong?) the union by mobilising that unionist civic sector that is now much stronger on the nationalist side.  But DUP etc won't countenance that.

But is Beattie strong enough to say F**k you to the hard liners and to forget about chasing acceptance from these people and focus on the more democratic small u middle of the road unionists? I donít think he has the confidence to take an immediate backwards step to try and build that option as a sensible, moderate Unionist party where I think voters will gradually flow over the next few years. Heís too scared of poking the Brysons of the world in case it alienates some of his voters. Without realising thereís another chunk of unionist voters who want to distance themselves from the DUP/ Bryson/ protocol/ Brexit sh!t show. But the UUP havenít realised that is their opportunity rather than trying to hold onto the hardliners who wouldnít vote for them anyway!!

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 06, 2022, 09:45:05 PM »

With early research showing the protection offered by boosters waning after just one month, for example, what role will vaccination play in tackling Covid-19 in the future?

The Partially vaccinated have invested a lot of trust in governments and the pharmaceutical industry.

Where as you invested time with John on Facebook who mentioned sheeple and big pharma so obviously knows his sh!te. 😂

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 06, 2022, 04:07:27 PM »
Why bother getting one vaccine or even two? The booster isnít going to produce another head!

Because the  double vaccine clearly at this stage has worked against a seemingly more dangerous variant. Omicron doesn't seem as serious but that may change.
The booster doesn't seem to be needed if we look at the early data to keep you out of hospital. Nobody in their right mind would just take a vaccine just fir the sake of it.  If things change I'll get it. But for now I'm happy with 2jabs and immunity from my last infection.
Think that's reasonable and sensible. I'm very aware of pressure on NHS staff as priority atm.

Change things any?

It's a positive (excuse the pun), but hospitalisations from omricon isn't main issue, it's general transmission and subsequent absenteeism and booster doesn't seem to be stopping that at all.

If hospitalisations are reduced enough and there are no more severe mutations then general transmission will become less of an issue. Hopefully if things continue to trend in the way they have been then isolation periods can be looked at. But we need to understand that while Omricon looks to be milder, itís still affecting the unvaccinated substantially more. So people would still need to be wary in refusing a booster.

General discussion / Re: Running
« on: January 04, 2022, 04:26:35 PM »
Anyone get a new running watch for Xmas or would like to recommend one for me?? Iím guessing their are watches at £500 that are amazing but a bit less will do me tbh, cheers
Garmin forerunner best bet. Few different varieties depending on needs and wants. Ones with music, contactless etc. Wonít need to go near £500 unless you want top spec.

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 03, 2022, 08:26:10 PM »
This expert view

Have to say I agree
Good to hear none of the infected had serious symptoms. Looks like the vaccine is doing itís bit.

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: December 28, 2021, 05:20:11 PM »
Bunker you starting to pollute this page, you went from trying to argue a stand point no matter if people agree with it or not, to talking absolute crap. There many things about Covid 19 am not happy with, and got a number of questions about the virus and govt mishandlings but I try to look as if am not losing touch with reality, as at the end of the day am not a doctor/ scientist as I have to go on their professional advice and not on shit been posted on Facebook by persons unqualified who just happy to share their rantings for attention. Hell I know one of the main leaders of the anti vac in the North and I can't understand the crazy attitude, person lost tons of friends.

Yes, there are a lot of Nutjobs/influencers using Covid for their own agenda(s). That does not mean we ignore, belittle or not question. I asked a few questions? I'm sorry if that does not flow with the tide. I remember Luke O'Neill saying how slow the Vaccination production process would be this time last year. There would be so many obstacles, processes and so on to get through. After an initial skirmish to get vaccines, everything seemed to flow pretty easily.

Do you think that only a tenth of the vaccines given are actually a vaccine snd the rest nothing?

I don't know! Hardly? Some con job if that was the case!

What I do find strange is that different Vaccines have different ways of working. Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines rely on mRNA technology, AstraZenecaís vaccine uses adenovirus-vectored technology as does J&J.

But all are bungled and mixed up in together when giving boosters (3rd Shots), Do these cocktails destroy the consistency from the first jabs that were given. There seems to be no order, rule or consistency? It just seems to be about getting the Jab in name only!

But all your posts shows is that you are ignorant of the facts. As you have been ever since the teachers were put off last year and you lost your sh!t about people on furlough.

General discussion / Re: Re: Joe Brolly
« on: December 26, 2021, 12:12:56 AM »
Merry Christmas Silver HillÖÖ

General discussion / Re: Movie recommendations
« on: December 24, 2021, 12:07:02 AM »
New Matrix film any good? Liked the first one but thought the 2nd film was rubbish so never bothered with the third.
The 3rd was worse than the 2nd. Will watch the new one but reviews aren't great.

Iíll watch it, but will have to watch 3rd

Watched it the night. Loved the first one and the other two were ok. The new one if grand. Feels like it was just setting the scene for 5 & 6. Ties up well from the old ones tho.

General discussion / Re: Quinn Insurance in Administration
« on: December 22, 2021, 10:12:20 PM »
They do know, that will be revealed in the new year.

We will see then so in the new year

Not sure why you're being smart. It's been said there will be arrests in the new year, which will likely lead to the paymaster,

This will be good. There seems to be that much innuendo and rumours being thrown about with very little substance. Be good to see it closed out one way or the other.

General discussion / Re: Quinn Insurance in Administration
« on: December 22, 2021, 07:09:27 PM »
It was said they found a lot of information regarding the paymaster where Dublin Jimmy was staying in England, laptop, phones.

But surely if there was then there would be a case against someone. Has there been any actual evidence about a paymaster other than the say so of an elderly priest?

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: December 22, 2021, 12:53:06 PM »
Worth a read about the pfizer anti viral treatment. If we all had access to this drug we wouldnít need too many other restrictions.

said the same about the vaccine, then the booster and then the next booster and so on and so forth, and now this, as green as grass.

Yeah imagine not getting thing right first time with a new virus. Unbelievable Jeff.

General discussion / Re: Quinn Insurance in Administration
« on: December 22, 2021, 09:26:37 AM »
Surely if there was a paymaster one of these lads who are looking at 20-30 years would have sung like a bird to try and reduce the sentence. Giving the incentives Iím sure they were offered to try and find the alleged paymaster, I find it far fetched that none took the opportunity.

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: December 16, 2021, 11:29:38 PM »
there is a flu thread already.. just search for it...

lenny what is also surprising that a lot of people against the vaccine, happily promote other drugs for covid that haven't gone through the same trials and peer reviews that vaccines have.. one of the contradictions I was referring to in an earlier post.

Totally agree. There are some shady characters promoting ivermectin, hydroxochloriquine along with other medicines and supplements.

Ivermectin actually is being trialed along with Favipiravir in this University of Oxford clinical study. I'd guess this study( given the credentials ) of those undertaking it, would validate the use or non-use of either drug.
      The Ivermectin portion of the study has now been paused due to supply issues of Ivermectin itself.

So another trial ivermectin trail. If it hasnít been validated by now, hard to know what this trial would show different.

I'd guess thats the point of the trial.
      In any event, why would a body like the university of oxford sponsored by the department of health uk (among others )carry out such a trial? They must have had some reasons to deem it worthwhile to at least study it.
     The Ivermectin portion of the study is paused due to supply issues of Ivermectin itself so we'll have to wait.
     They are continuing with the Favipiravir portion of the  trial.

I have no issue with the trial. In fact it would be fantastic if it had a positive outcome.
My issue is with people cheerleading Ivedmectin despite its lack of clinical trial data, and yet calling out issues with the vaccine despite the absolute mountain of data available.

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