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Their 2 spokesmen on GAAboard will keep Fear Bun in his place :D

Informative as always.

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Commission for flags, identity, culture and tradition out today, £800k later and not one agreed implementation and we all know why but it'll be spun that ones as bad as the other.

I was literally about to reply to say that the SDLP will no doubt be first out of the blocks trying to play that particular card. Then I thought to myself, 'they probably already have'. So I went on the BBC news website to read their report....and sure enough, the section of the report where it outlines how SF are calling for the recommendations to be implemented was followed immediately by the SDLP response which is that its the fault of both the DUP and SF.

FFS do the stoops really think people are so stupid that they can't see through this tactic by now?

What recommendations lol. Did you not notice there was no action plan . And wasn't it Naomi long who led the criticism, by the way every party apart from the 2 money suckers criticised it. It's called opposition politics. Now drop that massive chip off your shoulder

"What recommendations?" There were 44 of them. And yes I did notice there was no implementation plan. That's kinda the whole point. As was reported yesterday on Radio Ulster, the DUP only agreed to release the report on the sole condition that there would be no implementation plan. SF, meanwhile, were actively arguing for an implementation plan to be made and calling for the those who were opposed to it, to explain why.

So yeah, a bit f**king warped of the SDLP to attempt to portray this as "they're as bad as eachother". Only fools buy such nonsense. Seemingly, you're among them.


(P.s. If there's one person on this earth that cannot accuse anyone else of having achip on their shoulder, it's you. Is there a single topic on this board that you haven't hijacked to have a cry about SF on?)

Really? We haven't heard much about it since July 2020 when it was in their laps. It would be remiss of any party not to challenge the fact that there is no plan surely?

The Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP) has called the decision to publish without an implementation plan "a farce".

SDLP MLA Sinead McLaughlin, who chairs the Stormont committee tasked with scrutinising the work of the first and deputy first ministers, said it underlined the "dysfunction being driven to the heart of government by the DUP/Sinn Féin relationship".

"It is far too important a challenge to allow this document to become an £800,000 ornament at Stormont Castle," she said.

"In the absence of direction or leadership from the first ministers, I will be seeking to invite the co-chairs of the commission to come to our committee and outline their view on implementation of the report recommendations."


SF last week

"However, since then, for its own reasons, the DUP has resisted all attempts and subsequent deadlines to present a plan to the full executive on implementation of the report’s recommendations," he wrote.

He added: "There is no point working so long and hard for this important report to be put on a shelf."

More or less the same thing. (In fact I think SDLP were lucky not to be pulled on for plagiarism for the shelf/ ornament comment….)

Defs plagiaraism there, you never even cited your quote lol

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2021/11/22/news/dup-blocking-long-awaited-report-on-flags-identity-and-culture-2514942/

Declan Kearney.

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Commission for flags, identity, culture and tradition out today, £800k later and not one agreed implementation and we all know why but it'll be spun that ones as bad as the other.

I was literally about to reply to say that the SDLP will no doubt be first out of the blocks trying to play that particular card. Then I thought to myself, 'they probably already have'. So I went on the BBC news website to read their report....and sure enough, the section of the report where it outlines how SF are calling for the recommendations to be implemented was followed immediately by the SDLP response which is that its the fault of both the DUP and SF.

FFS do the stoops really think people are so stupid that they can't see through this tactic by now?

What recommendations lol. Did you not notice there was no action plan . And wasn't it Naomi long who led the criticism, by the way every party apart from the 2 money suckers criticised it. It's called opposition politics. Now drop that massive chip off your shoulder

"What recommendations?" There were 44 of them. And yes I did notice there was no implementation plan. That's kinda the whole point. As was reported yesterday on Radio Ulster, the DUP only agreed to release the report on the sole condition that there would be no implementation plan. SF, meanwhile, were actively arguing for an implementation plan to be made and calling for the those who were opposed to it, to explain why.

So yeah, a bit f**king warped of the SDLP to attempt to portray this as "they're as bad as eachother". Only fools buy such nonsense. Seemingly, you're among them.


(P.s. If there's one person on this earth that cannot accuse anyone else of having achip on their shoulder, it's you. Is there a single topic on this board that you haven't hijacked to have a cry about SF on?)

Really? We haven't heard much about it since July 2020 when it was in their laps. It would be remiss of any party not to challenge the fact that there is no plan surely?

The Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP) has called the decision to publish without an implementation plan "a farce".

SDLP MLA Sinead McLaughlin, who chairs the Stormont committee tasked with scrutinising the work of the first and deputy first ministers, said it underlined the "dysfunction being driven to the heart of government by the DUP/Sinn Féin relationship".

"It is far too important a challenge to allow this document to become an £800,000 ornament at Stormont Castle," she said.

"In the absence of direction or leadership from the first ministers, I will be seeking to invite the co-chairs of the commission to come to our committee and outline their view on implementation of the report recommendations."


SF last week

"However, since then, for its own reasons, the DUP has resisted all attempts and subsequent deadlines to present a plan to the full executive on implementation of the report’s recommendations," he wrote.

He added: "There is no point working so long and hard for this important report to be put on a shelf."

More or less the same thing. (In fact I think SDLP were lucky not to be pulled on for plagiarism for the shelf/ ornament comment….)

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FFS do you understand the process that the action plan had to be signed off by DUP  in order to implement the action plan? Guess who would be the most affected by the 44 recommendations (Yes there was recommendations). Not nationalists. The DUP see every step towards a middle ground as an erosion of their right to rule, and their Britishness. Because they started in a position of extreme power and all the bells as whistles that go with that, it feels to them that just implementing power sharing is taking things away from them. When in reality it’s leveli g the balance. Off course they were going to oppose this. Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done and shouldn’t be highlighted. Blaming both sides as if they are equally involved in the lack of an implementation plan is giving the DUP an out they don’t deserve.

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

100%

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Commission for flags, identity, culture and tradition out today, £800k later and not one agreed implementation and we all know why but it'll be spun that ones as bad as the other.

I was literally about to reply to say that the SDLP will no doubt be first out of the blocks trying to play that particular card. Then I thought to myself, 'they probably already have'. So I went on the BBC news website to read their report....and sure enough, the section of the report where it outlines how SF are calling for the recommendations to be implemented was followed immediately by the SDLP response which is that its the fault of both the DUP and SF.

FFS do the stoops really think people are so stupid that they can't see through this tactic by now?

What recommendations lol. Did you not notice there was no action plan . And wasn't it Naomi long who led the criticism, by the way every party apart from the 2 money suckers criticised it. It's called opposition politics. Now drop that massive chip off your shoulder

How so?

Naomi sits in government as a justice minister, yet criticises another department in the same government?

The DUP do the same when Swann and the executive put out new Covid guidelines and she's the first to criticise them for mixed messaging and rightly so.

Remember the Alliance in Belfast City Council didn't support the implementation of the same regulations for bonfires being applied to council property as they currently implement for third party bookings on their premises..

As for the lack of an action plan, the dogs in the street know it has to be agreed by the execute and guess who didn't want anything done about this?

You mean like SF criticising Nichola Mallon every time there is a pot hole? My point is that they dont agree as a group, they oppose who in their minds are their threat in next election, not sure why posters are surprised at that. SF have a massive chip in this regard.

Yes and we know now from the report that SF and DUP were the 2 not able to agree on an action plan-the dogs on the street know it as you said

Which one of those two have most to lose with their base if an action plan was in place? Answers on a postcard to 91 Dundela Avenue now that they've painted the front door.

It is good that we spent 800k to get find out what we already knew

FFS do you understand the process that the action plan had to be signed off by DUP  in order to implement the action plan? Guess who would be the most affected by the 44 recommendations (Yes there was recommendations). Not nationalists. The DUP see every step towards a middle ground as an erosion of their right to rule, and their Britishness. Because they started in a position of extreme power and all the bells as whistles that go with that, it feels to them that just implementing power sharing is taking things away from them. When in reality it’s leveli g the balance. Off course they were going to oppose this. Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done and shouldn’t be highlighted. Blaming both sides as if they are equally involved in the lack of an implementation plan is giving the DUP an out they don’t deserve.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 01, 2021, 11:19:54 PM »
But going from Ballygawley to DGN is fine, but having to travel on to portadown would make it pointless.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: December 01, 2021, 04:42:07 PM »
Can someone explain the logic of ramping up a booster programme that will soon be made redundant by omicrons mutations?
Is it definitely useless against Omicron? I suppose given the level of Delta currently around it makes sense to still protect against it. I’m in on Thursday to get both booster and flu shot.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: December 01, 2021, 03:22:26 PM »
Think schools will close 17th.

But should prob close on 14th tbh. Schools seem to be a major issue,

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General discussion / Re: Mandatory covid 19 vaccination
« on: December 01, 2021, 01:16:26 PM »
No one can claim absolute supremacy in terms of being correct. There are many smart people debating and promoting their own hypothesis. Many are being censored though, if they are at odds with the “official” narrative which is just weird and most importantly deeply unscientific. Scepticism used to be healthy.

This my be true. But the vast majority of stuff is misinformation. Can you give an example of someone who is being censored but has been able to present facts and figures that stand up to scrutiny?

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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - somewhat back on-topic!
« on: December 01, 2021, 09:45:29 AM »
Commission for flags, identity, culture and tradition out today, £800k later and not one agreed implementation and we all know why but it'll be spun that ones as bad as the other.

I was literally about to reply to say that the SDLP will no doubt be first out of the blocks trying to play that particular card. Then I thought to myself, 'they probably already have'. So I went on the BBC news website to read their report....and sure enough, the section of the report where it outlines how SF are calling for the recommendations to be implemented was followed immediately by the SDLP response which is that its the fault of both the DUP and SF.

FFS do the stoops really think people are so stupid that they can't see through this tactic by now?

I can hear the pitter patter of Fear’s footsteps…..

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: December 01, 2021, 09:14:16 AM »
I see the brits are not going to administer the booster until the end of January, why are we being told to get the booster now, are we being used as guinea pigs or is Boris waiting on a better booster to be developed which will be effective against this mutation.
Its being a thing that has worried me a bit throughout this pandemic is that these vaccinations in the north have been rolled out quicker than England Scotland or Wales, usually we are last on the list.
Not anti-vax by the way.

You will be when the sh*te hits the fan!

Trust your intuition, it's amazing how good a subliminal judge it is.

There’s the problem right there. Eddie from down the road that hasn’t a clue what day of the week it is, should follow his intuition rather than the advise of medical experts the world over. That’s the logic your up against.

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General discussion / Re: Mandatory covid 19 vaccination
« on: November 29, 2021, 10:59:04 AM »
What’s going on? Are nordies for or against the vaccine passport? Which one is reason?

For.

To be fair it seems to be the southern alright who aren’t happy with the covid passport. They have form in showing little concern for their fellow Irishmen,

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General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: November 27, 2021, 11:22:38 AM »
Aye wasn’t very Christmassy. Maybe it’s just too early. But was a bit of a let down. Kids feel asleep watching it.

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General discussion / Re: Mandatory covid 19 vaccination
« on: November 24, 2021, 12:27:03 PM »
if this happens then tds should put thier lives on the line if their so confident the vaccine is 100 percent put their lives on the line if anyone dies or has a severe adverse reaction then what happens is a random draw happens in the dail and whatever tds name gets drawing out they face the death penalty they want to make vaccine mandatory then put your money where your mouths are tds your confident thats its that safe then put your lives on the line i bet they wouldnt.

Class  ;D ;D
Would make for a great mini series.

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General discussion / Re: Mandatory covid 19 vaccination
« on: November 24, 2021, 10:15:11 AM »


Have you heard of anyone getting polio recently?

No. That's because 100% vaccine rollout does work.
Dunno if it that's for my benefit? It won't work because you can't force people to take it - physically (or morally).
Do you have children? If so did you have them vaccinated against various illnesses?
What has that got to do with the price of butter?  I'm not talking about the rights and wrongs of it, it's the practicalities.  Current situation is there's millions  of militant anti-vaxxers you can't physically force vaccinate them ffs.

Would a woke Liberal like yourself advocate forcefully vaccinating refuseniks - Literally holding a person down and injecting them?
I asked you a question.

Why don't you answer it?
Yes my kids are vaccinated (& for covid), I'm not stupid nor anti-vax. I really don't see the point of your Question in this context, wasting my time is all you're doing.

Do you think mandatory vaccination for Covid in the current circumstances will work? Physically forcing people to take an injection if required?
So you forced your kids to be vaccinated. Because what else is vaccinating babies and young children?

You say morally we can't force anybody to take a vaccine.

Morally we can put in place measures which make it extremely difficult for them to function as part of society if they refuse to be vaccinated.

And given the stakes, it would be more than justified.
Sid I’m all for trying to get people vaccinated. But that argument doesn’t stand up. There’s a difference in making a decision for your children in light of their well fare and forcing adults to take a vaccine they don’t want. If I decide my kids aren’t allowed out this wkend as they haven’t been working hard enough in school it doesn’t mean I’m in favour of imprisonment of adults who don’t work. The whole relationship is different.

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