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GAA Discussion / Re: QF Phase 1 predictions
« on: July 13, 2018, 04:14:45 PM »
Donegal v Dublin        - Dublin by 5
Tyrone v Roscommon  - Tyrone by 3
Kerry v Galway           - Kerry by 5
Kildare v Monaghan    - Monaghan by 3

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Kildare's big worry is that Fermanagh had 41 shots against them.

Fermanagh only converted 0-18 of them but to me that Kildare defence just does not look solid.

Monaghan by 3 points for me.

 

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GAA Discussion / Re: Which super hero are you?
« on: July 09, 2018, 10:15:44 PM »
Dunno how they didn't go with Superman for Dublin.
It's basically a drawing of Diarmuid Connolly.

I'd have said Desperate Dan.

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You could start at last year's qf and see how teams have changed in the meantime
Galway are much tighter at the back and had a decent league.
What about Kerry ?

Galway had a very settled side during the league - especially in terms of their backs.
Kerry in the league had way more rotation/experimentation/injuries/whatever you want to call it.
Galway had 19 players who played 7 or more games in this year's league campaign; Kerry had 2 players who played 7 games.
Galway did play one game more (the final) but I think the stat gives a huge indication into how settled Galway were in the league compared to Kerry who seemed a bit thrown together.

The two teams from last year's quarter-final

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Kerry
1. Brian Kelly (Killarney Legion)

3. Mark Griffin (St Michaels-Foilmore)
2. Fionn Fitzgerald (Dr Crokes)
4. Shane Enright (Tarbert)

7. Paul Murphy (Rathmore)
6. Tadhg Morley (Templenoe)
5. Peter Crowley (Laune Rangers)

8. David Moran (Kerins O’Rahillys)
9. Jack Barry (Na Gaeil)

10. Michael Geaney (Dingle)
11. Johnny Buckley (Dr Crokes – captain)
12. Donnchadh Walsh (Cromane)

13. Paul Geaney (Dingle)
14. Kieran Donaghy (Austin Stacks)
15. James O’Donoghue (Killarney Legion)

Subs

18. Stephen O’Brien (Kenmare) for Michael Geaney (39)
20. Jack Savage (Kerins O’Rahillys) for O’Donoghue (48)
17. Anthony Maher (Duagh) for Barry (54)
21. Barry John Keane (Kerins O’Rahillys) for Donaghy (57)
22. Killian Young (Renard) for Morley (63)

Galway
1. Bernard Power (Corofin)

2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdown)
22. David Walsh (Kilannin)
3. Declan Kyne (Clonbur)

5. Gary O’Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Moycullen)
7. Liam Silke (Corofin)

8. Paul Conroy (St James’)
10. Tom Flynn (Athenry)

9. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
11. Micheal Daly (Mountbellew/Moylough)
13. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)

15. Sean Armstrong (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
12. Ian Burke (Corofin)
14. Damien Comer (Annaghdown)

Subs

4. Cathal Sweeney (Killanin) for David Walsh (38)
23. Eamonn Brannigan (St Michael’s) for Shane Walsh (44)
19. Michael Farragher (Corofin) for Bradshaw (52)
21. Fiontán Ó Curraoin (Mícheál Breathnach) for Daly (57)
18. Cillian McDaid (Monivea-Abbey) for Flynn (63)


No teams named yet but would expect there to be less changes in the Galway side compared to the Kerry lineout, based on what we've seen in the league and championship so far.





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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: July 05, 2018, 06:20:33 PM »
The team that will benefit most from the Super 8s is Kerry.

Yeah you'd think with their age profile this year it's set up lovely for them.
Also I saw one of the retired Kerry lads going on about how the break between winning the provincials and the quarter-final wasn't ideal as the break was often too long.

It's easy to say that when you think you're good enough to win those matches. This Kerry team aren't within a country mile of winning the AI.

Current bookies odds to pick up Sam

Kerry 11/4 to win Sam
Roscommon 66/1 to win Sam

Based on these odds how many miles (country or otherwise) are Roscommon off winning the AI?



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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: July 05, 2018, 04:00:59 PM »
The team that will benefit most from the Super 8s is Kerry.

Yeah you'd think with their age profile this year it's set up lovely for them.
Also I saw one of the retired Kerry lads going on about how the break between winning the provincials and the quarter-final wasn't ideal as the break was often too long.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork v Tyrone
« on: July 05, 2018, 03:57:07 PM »
What about this curve ball play both Morgan and O'Neill!

Sssh - don't be giving the more defensive minded managers ideas

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin V Donegal
« on: July 05, 2018, 03:56:30 PM »
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0705/976609-dublin-donegal-croke/

Dead cert that the motion to take Dublin out of Croker in the Super 8 passes at Congress.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin V Donegal
« on: July 05, 2018, 03:55:02 PM »
Looking at the Dublin v Donegal group, it definitely looks like a serious possibility it will come down to score difference, especially if Dublin win all three of their games. 
If Dublin win all three of their games it leaves 3 other games in the group.

Tyrone/Cork v Armagh/Roscommon
Armagh/Roscommon v Donegal
Donegal v Tyrone/Cork

If the group ends up with 1 win each for the 3 non-Dublin teams, the team that progresses is the side with the best score difference.

A big component of this is likely to be not letting Dublin run up a big score - they won their 3 Leinster games by an average of 20 points.

I was also thinking of whether a team e.g. Dublin who has 2 wins going in the final round and a big score difference might be tempted to throw their final game.
I can see squad rotation (players with knocks/minor injuries being rested) but letting weaker opposition through is only going to benefit the winner of the other group by giving them an easier semi-final.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Fermanagh v Kildare
« on: July 04, 2018, 06:36:34 PM »
It might sound over-simplistic but I believe Rory will have studied the Kildare v Carlow game and will set up similarly, which is how Fermanagh play anyhow. This, to me, gives them a decent chance.

That's how I expect Fermanagh to set up too.

The key stat from that Carlow game was Carlow's 100% shooting rate and Kildare shooting 34% - I just don't see Fermanagh being able to replicate those percentages.

Kildare will surely have learned lessons from the Carlow game in terms of their shooting choices - harsh experience being the best teacher and all that.



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GAA Discussion / Re: Kildare v Mayo AI Qualifier Round 3
« on: July 04, 2018, 06:31:23 PM »
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Until then Kildare had only won one of David Clarke’s kickouts, but the physical toll of this game was starting to catch up on Mayo and Kildare finished the game winning a total of seven Mayo kickouts, six of these coming in the final quarter.

Not exactly surprising given the Parsons and SoS being on the injured list.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Roscommon v Armagh
« on: July 04, 2018, 06:26:41 PM »
O'Moore Park apparently holds 27,000 not sure if that's accurate as these figures tend to fluctuate depending on Safety measures etc. What is anticipated crowd for Saturday? Can't see Cork bringing too many(1k), Armagh could bring 3-4k and Tyrone probably 5k and i'm sure Roscommon would bring a big crowd if Syferus wasn't going (only messing) say 2-3k. Throw in a few neutrals and is this game heading for about 15k?

I'd say Cork will be doing very well if they break the 1k barrier after the Kerry destruction.

I think 15k might be a bit optimistic - I'd guess around the 12k mark.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork v Tyrone
« on: July 04, 2018, 06:20:27 PM »

What I see is group of players under a smart manager pacing themselves in the qualifiers as they did in 2013 and 2015.

I don't buy this - the Meath game in particular punches major holes in the theory of Tyrone pacing themselves. No side pacing themselves ends up playing extra-time.
Also if they were pacing themselves they would have put Cavan away far far earlier. Cavan were woeful and were absolutely there for the taking early on but Tyrone did a mighty good job of keeping them in the match.


You didn’t see any hunger in the Meath game as they pulled out a draw with the last kick of the game? Funny how people view things differently. If nothing else, in a relatively poor performance, at least that game displayed a fight and desire not to lose that was very encouraging. And again on Saturday when Cavan got back to level, a team with no hunger or desire would easily have folded. We are negotiating our way through these rounds very well in my view. Cork worries me though, they always have.

I said
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I didn't exactly see much evidence of hunger/desire from the Tyrone players for long periods.
Not that I didnt see any hunger.
I said for long periods there wasn't much evidence of hunger/desire.
They showed a desire not to lose as opposed to going out there and showing a desire to win.
To me they look a team who have no faith in their ability to take on Dublin and were going through the motions a bit/ playing from rote memory of being hard to beat.

As a comparison Kerry look the hungriest team so far - running up a big score against Clare and then when they had their foot on Cork's windpipe they just kept on crushing.

I would say save your worrying for the Super 8s. I just can't see any scenario where Cork can get a win, unless they somehow rattle 3/4 goals.

The current Cork senior football team remain an enigma. Won 5 of the last 7 Munster U21 titles and they should be competitive challengers to Kerry in Munster but they aren't and instead they are around the same level as Clare.


Most of those Munster final wins were very narrow affairs. It's been the norm for years and years in Cork that the U21 team would do well and then a huge number of the players would show little or no development as footballers once they moved on to senior football. You look at those U21 teams and a huge chunk of the better players involved have been tried with the seniors at various points and the vast majority have made no impact. A junky club championship, zero belief in actual football coaching, a huge percent of the intercounty footballers playing hurling have all been given as some of the reasons. I think in the past Cork could get away with it but as football has developed, Cork's half-assed approach to football has meant they have been left behind, in spite of the their playing numbers.

The thing about Cork is they can turn on the style if they feel like it.
They wouldn't be afraid of Tyrone.


Nonsense. They have no style to turn on. They might get some performances out of a few lads on the basis that there are a couple of lads in the last chance saloon in terms of having an intercounty career.

Cork could be very dangerous. They could have a day where their forwards catch fire and score from everywhere.
Also any analysis of the game from "the experts" seems to ignore that Tyrone are a good notch below the level they were playing at this time last year. Meath-Tyrone was a very even game, and Cork are probably as good as Meath. Tyrone need to up their performance, both to beat Cork and to be competitive in S8.

Tyrone were poor for long periods against Meath, but it was definitely among the best Meath performances in a long while and yet Tyrone still didn't end up losing.

Imo Cork had their day where their forwards caught fire and it was the game against Tipp.
Tyrone will not need to up their performance to beat Cork but they will to be competitive in the S8.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork v Tyrone
« on: July 02, 2018, 07:13:12 PM »
The list of teams Cork have beaten in the championship in the last few years

2018 Tipperary
2017 Tipperary
2017 Waterford
2016 Limerick
2015 Clare
2014 Sligo
2014 Tipperary

You look at the absolute hammering by Kerry (who I think turned in more of a 7 out of 10 performance than an 8 or 9 out of 10 performance ), the Tipp win  and Cork's league results  - 3 wins against Down, Louth and Meath and 4 losses to Tipp, Clare, Cavan and Roscommon and you would have to say it would be a massive shock if Tyrone didn't get the win here.

I think the biggest danger to Tyrone is a lack of appetite amongst the Tyrone lads to be playing in the Super 8s. Watching the Cavan and Meath games, I didn't exactly see much evidence of hunger/desire from the Tyrone players for long periods.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Football qualifier route 2018
« on: July 02, 2018, 08:55:15 AM »
So Tyrone v Dublin in Clones!

Healy Park? (Not sure we'll beat Cork though)

Tyrone, even though they are only showing average enough form, should still have way too much for Cork.

Roscommon Armagh possibly the pick of the round 4 ties

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